Protector vs Iron Man

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#1  Edited By The_Martian
 Noh-Varr
 Noh-Varr
Tony Stark
Tony Stark
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Characters: Protector vs Iron Man
Location: Characters start on top of Avengers Tower.
 Rules:
  • No Prep
  • Character Morals Apply
  • Iron Man can't use Avengers Tower for equipment or security
  • New York is populated
  • Win is by Death, KO, or incapacitation
 
I know it's still a little early to for either of these character to get a firm answer. But I already seeing this being a battle I want to discuss later on.
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#2  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
I can, by no means, call this yet. We know next to nothing for both of them as of now.
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#3  Edited By The_Martian
@Morpheus_ said:
" I can, by no means, call this yet. We know next to nothing for both of them as of now. "
@Nobody said:
"I know it's still a little early to for either of these character to get a firm answer. But I already seeing this being a battle I want to discuss later on. "
I know :) I just getting a head start lol
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#4  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Nobody said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" I can, by no means, call this yet. We know next to nothing for both of them as of now. "
@Nobody said:
"I know it's still a little early to for either of these character to get a firm answer. But I already seeing this being a battle I want to discuss later on. "
I know :) I just getting a head start lol "
Oh, I know you said it, but I'm simply confirming it, in case someone comes in with "Noh curbstomps" or "Iron Man dominates". 
 
Noh-Varr's technical know-how in Avengers # 2
was impressive, though.
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#5  Edited By TheBatman586

Iron Man's new armor is an upgrade to Extremis, so he can probably still take control of machines. Therefore, he simply hijacks Protector's weapons, preventing him from doing anything.

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#6  Edited By The_Martian
@Morpheus_ said:
" @Nobody said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" I can, by no means, call this yet. We know next to nothing for both of them as of now. "
@Nobody said:
"I know it's still a little early to for either of these character to get a firm answer. But I already seeing this being a battle I want to discuss later on. "
I know :) I just getting a head start lol "
Oh, I know you said it, but I'm simply confirming it, in case someone comes in with "Noh curbstomps" or "Iron Man dominates". 
 
Noh-Varr's technical know-how in Avengers # 2
was impressive, though. "
It was, though I hated that Tony offered him a job and his own staff. Tony Stark is still dirt broke.
 
BTW, can you pm the scan of Extremis taking a nuke? I was told you had it :)
 
@TheBatman586 said:
" Iron Man's new armor is an upgrade to Extremis, so he can probably still take control of machines. Therefore, he simply hijacks Protector's weapons, preventing him from doing anything. "
Tony struggled to take control of the obedience disks during WWH because they were alien technology.  I have a hard time believe he could control something as complex as the Nega-Bands. Especially since he Noh's other devices were complex for him.
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#7  Edited By Ferro Vida
@Nobody said:
"
 
@TheBatman586 said:
" Iron Man's new armor is an upgrade to Extremis, so he can probably still take control of machines. Therefore, he simply hijacks Protector's weapons, preventing him from doing anything. "
Tony struggled to take control of the obedience disks during WWH because they were alien technology.
To be fair he was doing that while fighting the effects of one of the obedience disks. If anything it's a testament to his power.
 
Didn't Noh one-shot Wonderman?
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#8  Edited By The_Martian
@Ferro Vida said:
" @Nobody said:
"
 
@TheBatman586 said:
" Iron Man's new armor is an upgrade to Extremis, so he can probably still take control of machines. Therefore, he simply hijacks Protector's weapons, preventing him from doing anything. "
Tony struggled to take control of the obedience disks during WWH because they were alien technology.
To be fair he was doing that while fighting the effects of one of the obedience disks. If anything it's a testament to his power.  Didn't Noh one-shot Wonderman? "
Not exactly. He blasted him back, but Wonder Man came back for more. He did one-shot Titanium Man though.
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#9  Edited By Ferro Vida
@Nobody: Gotcha. I've only actually heard other people talking about the issue thus far.
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#10  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Nobody said:
" @TheBatman586 said:
" Iron Man's new armor is an upgrade to Extremis, so he can probably still take control of machines. Therefore, he simply hijacks Protector's weapons, preventing him from doing anything. "
Tony struggled to take control of the obedience disks during WWH because they were alien technology.  I have a hard time believe he could control something as complex as the Nega-Bands. Especially since he Noh's other devices were complex for him. "
His powers were being supressed by the obedience disk itself, but with strain, he did manage to exercise his technopathy long enough for him to contact Dum Dum Dugan (until he was caught by his captors). Under normal circumstances, I doubt he'd have a problem. Hence wy the Skrulls considered intergral to neutralise him from the get go. He was too dangerous to be left untouched.
 
That being said, I can definitely see Noh-Varr and his technology having fail-safes against that, or  Noh-Varr being able to resist the attempt, at least for a certain period of time.
 
As for the scan, my hard disk crashed recently, and my scans collection was lost to me. It occurred in New Avengers: Illuminati # 5, when the Illuminati were under a surprise attack by a team of Super-Skrulls. I have posted it in other threads before, so I'll try to track it down.
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#11  Edited By The_Martian
@Morpheus_ said:
" @Nobody said:
" @TheBatman586 said:
" Iron Man's new armor is an upgrade to Extremis, so he can probably still take control of machines. Therefore, he simply hijacks Protector's weapons, preventing him from doing anything. "
Tony struggled to take control of the obedience disks during WWH because they were alien technology.  I have a hard time believe he could control something as complex as the Nega-Bands. Especially since he Noh's other devices were complex for him. "
His powers were being supressed by the obedience disk itself, but with strain, he did manage to exercise his technopathy long enough for him to contact Dum Dum Dugan (until he was caught by his captors). Under normal circumstances, I doubt he'd have a problem. Hence wy the Skrulls considered intergral to neutralise him from the get go. He was too dangerous to be left untouched.
 
That being said, I can definitely see Noh-Varr and his technology having fail-safes against that, or  Noh-Varr being able to resist the attempt, at least for a certain period of time.
 
As for the scan, my hard disk crashed recently, and my scans collection was lost to me. It occurred in New Avengers: Illuminati # 5, when the Illuminati were under a surprise attack by a team of Super-Skrulls. I have posted it in other threads before, so I'll try to track it down.
"
It's cool. I have that comic, I can just scan it myself if I need it. Thanks :)
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#12  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Nobody said:
" It's cool. I have that comic, I can just scan it myself if I need it. Thanks :) "
Anytime. Also, it's better that you have the comic, because the feat itself occurs in a splash page, so the analysis once it's up is a bit iffy.
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#13  Edited By King_Saturn
I am gonna go balls out and say Iron Man wins this... 
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#14  Edited By The_Martian
@Ferro Vida said:
" @Nobody: Gotcha. I've only actually heard other people talking about the issue thus far. "
It was pretty impressive none the less. He just didn't one shot him.
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#15  Edited By Ferro Vida
@King Saturn said:
" I am gonna go balls out and say Iron Man wins this...  "
Oh yeah! Well I'm going to say Noh-Varr wins.
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#16  Edited By King_Saturn
@Ferro Vida said:
" @King Saturn said:
" I am gonna go balls out and say Iron Man wins this...  "
Oh yeah! Well I'm going to say Noh-Varr wins. "
ha ha... 
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#17  Edited By The_Martian
@Morpheus_ said:
" @Nobody said:
" It's cool. I have that comic, I can just scan it myself if I need it. Thanks :) "
Anytime. Also, it's better that you have the comic, because the feat itself occurs in a splash page, so the analysis once it's up is a bit iffy. "
I only wanted it for a future battle threads really lol
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#18  Edited By Ferro Vida
@Nobody said:
" @Ferro Vida said:
" @Nobody: Gotcha. I've only actually heard other people talking about the issue thus far. "
It was pretty impressive none the less. He just didn't one shot him. "
Hmm... It just doesn't really make sense, unless he's able to disrupt Simon's ionic field.
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#19  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Nobody said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
" @Nobody said:
" It's cool. I have that comic, I can just scan it myself if I need it. Thanks :) "
Anytime. Also, it's better that you have the comic, because the feat itself occurs in a splash page, so the analysis once it's up is a bit iffy. "
I only wanted it for a future battle threads really lol "
I'm sure I posted it in a debate with Sparda in a Samus vs Iron Man thread. Problem is, I can't find it. LOL.
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#20  Edited By The_Martian
@Ferro Vida said:
" @Nobody said:
" @Ferro Vida said:
" @Nobody: Gotcha. I've only actually heard other people talking about the issue thus far. "
It was pretty impressive none the less. He just didn't one shot him. "
Hmm... It just doesn't really make sense, unless he's able to disrupt Simon's ionic field. "
Maybe it's his Negative energy. If the Nega-Bands are at all similar to Mar-Vell's, they were powered by Negative Zone energy.
 
@Morpheus_: Hmm....weird.
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#21  Edited By Ferro Vida
@Nobody: I assumed they were the same Nega Bands as wielded by Mar-Vell, so that would make sense.
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#22  Edited By The_Martian
@Morpheus_:  Found it!
 

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#23  Edited By The_Martian
@Ferro Vida said:
" @Nobody: I assumed they were the same Nega Bands as wielded by Mar-Vell, so that would make sense. "
Actually they are not. Which is why Noh-Varr is hard to judge his powers. If they were Mar-Vell's we could have an idea of his power range. But his Nega-Bands were based off the originals, but designed specifically for him.
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#24  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Nobody said:
"@Morpheus_: Hmm....weird. "
I got it anyway.
 


The first scan is cropped, since it would not be distinguishable otherwise.
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#25  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Nobody said:
" @Morpheus_:  Found it!
 

"
LOL. I was trying to upload the scans all the while you found them.
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#26  Edited By Ferro Vida
@Nobody: Interesting. Hmm.
 
What would you recommend for reading on Noh-Varr?
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#27  Edited By The_Martian
@Morpheus_ said:
" @Nobody said:
" @Morpheus_:  Found it!
 

"
LOL. I was trying to upload the scans all the while you found them. "
Thanks though. I can give you the link the the thread if you want to have it.
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#28  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Ferro Vida said:
" @Nobody: Interesting. Hmm.  What would you recommend for reading on Noh-Varr? "
Marvel Boy, Secret Invasion, Dark Avengers, and Dark Avengers Annual.
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#29  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Nobody said:
" Thanks though. I can give you the link the the thread if you want to have it. "
No problem.
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#30  Edited By The_Martian
@Ferro Vida said:
" @Nobody: Interesting. Hmm.  What would you recommend for reading on Noh-Varr? "
If you are just wanting general Noh-Varr material:
 
Marvel Boy #1-5
Civil War: Young Avengers & Runaways #1-4
All-New Savage She-Hulk #3 
 
If you are wanting for "Protector" Noh-Varr:
Dark Avengers Annual #1
Avengers #2
Ms. Marvel #50
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#31  Edited By Ferro Vida
@Morpheus_:@Nobody: Thanks, guys!
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#32  Edited By The_Martian
@Nobody said:
" @Ferro Vida said:
" @Nobody: Interesting. Hmm.  What would you recommend for reading on Noh-Varr? "
If you are just wanting general Noh-Varr material:  Marvel Boy #1-5 Civil War: Young Avengers & Runaways #1-4 All-New Savage She-Hulk #3   If you are wanting for "Protector" Noh-Varr: Dark Avengers Annual #1 Avengers #2 Ms. Marvel #50 "
This is assuming what you want is character feats. If you want character development than you want:
 
Marvel Boy #1-5
New Avengers: The Illuminati #4
Secret Invasion
Dark Avengers #1-5
Dark Avengers Annual #1
Avengers #2
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#33  Edited By The_Martian
@Ferro Vida said:
" @Morpheus_:@Nobody: Thanks, guys! "
Oh I forgot one:
 
Dark Reign: The List - Wolverine #1
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