Professor X vs General Zod

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X Stomps. Zod doesn't blitz and he doesn't have TP resistance.

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General Zod speed blitz Professor X into oblivion.

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Sorry for not writing the op, my laziness can be a drag.

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Comic version of Xavier would stomp movie version Zod.

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Professor x mind rapes him before he knows he's been mind raped lmao.

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#7  Edited By WenjunChew

X Stomps. Zod doesn't blitz and he doesn't have TP resistance.

Thread assumed characters are in-character as portrayed in comics/media.

General Zod is capable of speed blitz, reacting faster than the human mind can react to. Professor X only has human-level reactions.

General Zod wins.

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@wenjunchew:

Capable of, but he never has. Therefore it's not in character action for him. Characters in these forums will fight as they always do, not to the absolute best possible way of them to when they've never shown they can do that.

It's like saying a normal human can do everything Batman can because he's physically capable of it even if he's never shown the ability to do so.

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Xavier.

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@highaccuser: Very well, if General Zod knows what Professor X can do then General Zod wins due to first mover advantage.

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Very well, if General Zod knows what Professor X can do then General Zod wins due to first mover advantage.

It doesn't matter what he knows. It's just not something he does. And he doesn't have "first mover advantage" unless the OP states it.

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@highaccuser: Eh, its pretty unlikely for General Zod to be willing to be subjected to Professor X's mental attacks if he already knows what Professor X can do.

He's do whatever he can to prevent that, and the best self-defense is a good offense - Speed blitz.

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Unless Zod blitzes faster than Prof X can think, X wins pretty easily... Kryptonians have pretty bad durability/resistance to TP.

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Comic prof x vs movie Zod? X takes this too easy.

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@highaccuser: Eh, its pretty unlikely for General Zod to be willing to be subjected to Professor X's mental attacks if he already knows what Professor X can do.

TC never stated prior knowledge.

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Movie Zod was rather arrogant + he has no idea of Professor X's abilities.

The Professor takes Zod to school.

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Movie Zod was rather arrogant + he has no idea of Professor X's abilities.

The Professor takes Zod to school.

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Depends on starting distance. If Zod's can see X from the start, he might be able to get a punch in, or at the very least create a shockwave/use heat vision from a distance. If there's any reasonable distance between the two, X takes it pretty handily.

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No matter who wins the fight shouldn't be long. I really have no idea if movie Zod is susceptible to mind attacks.

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aaand here i quote against a popular myth

''The Speed of Sound is 761 miles per hour. The speed of light is 186,000 miles per second. The Speed of Thought cannot be quantified". - Xavier (UXM-First Class #5)

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@highaccuser: Eh, its pretty unlikely for General Zod to be willing to be subjected to Professor X's mental attacks if he already knows what Professor X can do.

He's do whatever he can to prevent that, and the best self-defense is a good offense - Speed blitz.

For one thing it isn't stated in the OP that Zod knows what he can do.

And characters don't always do the logical thing. If he doesn't speedblitz, He won't speedblitz.

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@ssj_god said:

aaand here i quote against a popular myth

''The Speed of Sound is 761 miles per hour. The speed of light is 186,000 miles per second. The Speed of Thought cannot be quantified". - Xavier (UXM-First Class #5)

Character statements do not count.

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@wenjunchew: when Xavier himself has reacted to people who say their faster than thought does though

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@highaccuser: Eh, its pretty unlikely for General Zod to be willing to be subjected to Professor X's mental attacks if he already knows what Professor X can do.

He's do whatever he can to prevent that, and the best self-defense is a good offense - Speed blitz.

"I know that guy has physic attacks, there for he can't use them against me!"

Pretty solid logic there.

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@wdc said:

"I know that guy has physic attacks, there for he can't use them against me!"

Pretty solid logic there.

Thank you.

Its called psychic attacks BTW, physic attacks are in the realm of reality-warping.

If Professor X has human level reactions and he starts off without control of General Zod, the latter is likely win easily. Why, the logic is simple - General Zod's reactions are faster than human.

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Zod's fighting speed was not nearly as fast as everyone is saying in this thread. He could travel fast, but he never did so while fighting. At least not fast enough to speed blitz someone who just has to shut them down with a thought. Xavier wins every time.

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@wdc said:

"I know that guy has physic attacks, there for he can't use them against me!"

Pretty solid logic there.

Thank you.

Its called psychic attacks BTW, physic attacks are in the realm of reality-warping.

If Professor X has human level reactions and he starts off without control of General Zod, the latter is likely win easily. Why, the logic is simple - General Zod's reactions are faster than human.

He was being sarcastic(I think).

Again, it doesn't matter what he can do, he needs to legitimately do it to show it would even cross his mind. He's not a blank slate that does the most logical action, he has legitimate methods and speed blitz isn't among them.

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@wenjunchew said:

@wdc said:

"I know that guy has physic attacks, there for he can't use them against me!"

Pretty solid logic there.

Thank you.

Its called psychic attacks BTW, physic attacks are in the realm of reality-warping.

If Professor X has human level reactions and he starts off without control of General Zod, the latter is likely win easily. Why, the logic is simple - General Zod's reactions are faster than human.

He was being sarcastic(I think).

Again, it doesn't matter what he can do, he needs to legitimately do it to show it would even cross his mind. He's not a blank slate that does the most logical action, he has legitimate methods and speed blitz isn't among them.

I was being sarcastic. Zod has no way of blocking physic attacks, even if he knows what powers he has, which he doesn't.

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@wenjunchew: Are you saying because Zod can speed blitz, that he will??

Cause that is one of the most ignorant things I've ever heard.

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@thekilborne: So Zod has CIS moments that made him unlikely to use speed blitz?

Just because Zod never displayed speed blitz feats doesn't mean he cannot use them.

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Xavier wrecks.

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@wenjunchew: Well in that case then let's use that logic with another fight...

For ex: Superman Vs Doomsday

Doomsday must be able to have super speed because he can hit Superman, Correct?

Now let's do another

Doomsday vs WB Hulk

Can Doomsday Speed-blitz Hulk??

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@thekilborne: Superman not using super speed in that scenario is a combination of PIS and CIS actually.

Doomsday nonetheless does have superhuman reaction and speed.

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@wenjunchew: So is it CIS or PIS when Wally defeated the Anti-Monitor solo??

Or when Doom stole Beyonders powers?

Or when Killer Croc got his face blown off by a regular shotgun even though a regular crocodile can take a bullet?

Or when DS tagged Wally West???

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@kingh said:

Professor x mind rapes him before he knows he's been mind raped lmao.

@wdc said:

@highaccuser said:

@wenjunchew said:

@wdc said:

"I know that guy has physic attacks, there for he can't use them against me!"

Pretty solid logic there.

Thank you.

Its called psychic attacks BTW, physic attacks are in the realm of reality-warping.

If Professor X has human level reactions and he starts off without control of General Zod, the latter is likely win easily. Why, the logic is simple - General Zod's reactions are faster than human.

He was being sarcastic(I think).

Again, it doesn't matter what he can do, he needs to legitimately do it to show it would even cross his mind. He's not a blank slate that does the most logical action, he has legitimate methods and speed blitz isn't among them.

I was being sarcastic. Zod has no way of blocking physic attacks, even if he knows what powers he has, which he doesn't.

If Zod Bliz he wins if not he will get mind rape

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@wenjunchew: So is it CIS or PIS when Wally defeated the Anti-Monitor solo??

Or when Doom stole Beyonders powers?

Or when Killer Croc got his face blown off by a regular shotgun even though a regular crocodile can take a bullet?

Or when DS tagged Wally West???

None of those are even PIS...

But CIS is a thing even in the battle forums.

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@kingh said:

Professor x mind rapes him before he knows he's been mind raped lmao.

@wdc said:

@highaccuser said:

@wenjunchew said:

@wdc said:

"I know that guy has physic attacks, there for he can't use them against me!"

Pretty solid logic there.

Thank you.

Its called psychic attacks BTW, physic attacks are in the realm of reality-warping.

If Professor X has human level reactions and he starts off without control of General Zod, the latter is likely win easily. Why, the logic is simple - General Zod's reactions are faster than human.

He was being sarcastic(I think).

Again, it doesn't matter what he can do, he needs to legitimately do it to show it would even cross his mind. He's not a blank slate that does the most logical action, he has legitimate methods and speed blitz isn't among them.

I was being sarcastic. Zod has no way of blocking physic attacks, even if he knows what powers he has, which he doesn't.

If Zod Bliz he wins if not he will get mind rape

The question is Zods ground speed VS Professor X's mind speed. Which one is faster?