Professor X & Nate Grey VS Martian Manhunter & Despero(Telepathy)
" Despero is a telepathic powerhouse. "i only know a little about him is he more powerful then MM(think he is but not sure)
" team 2 should win here, nate should be the most powerful of them all however he may lack the experience here "wait X-man lacks experience yet he pulled Charles from the astral plane into reality & in that dark x-men mini he owned alot of telepathy's like they were nothing i'd say he solo's .
" Team 2 easily Nate can hang with them psionically, but Xavier is the weak link here "
"Nate's a whole different level when it comes to Psychic, the guy can rip holes in dimensions, ressurect people, stop time, etc... using just his TK. Don't even get me started on his telepathy. "
This
Team marvel. The fight is only on telepathy anyway, so Charles being in his wheel chair doesn’t really affect anyone
" @capall2 said:" team 2 should win here, nate should be the most powerful of them all however he may lack the experience here "wait X-man lacks experience yet he pulled Charles from the astral plane into reality & in that dark x-men mini he owned alot of telepathy's like they were nothing i'd say he solo's . "
handling Charles is something neither despero or mm would have any difficulty with, the op states the contestents at their normal levels in lieu of their peak levels so nate ain't soloing anything here
Nate soloing is just nonsense. J'onn has resisted more than one planetary telepath and the combined mental powers of several other telepaths, and he has defeated psionic energy beings before. J'onn can beat Nate by himself, and either the Martian or Despero could fairly easily beat Xavier.
Hmm. Tough battle. Nate is the epitome of telepathic characters. Xavier isn't far behind.
However, MM and Despero are no jokes. Now, Nate Grey almost crumpled when he peeked into Thanos' mind. Despero is nowhere near as brutal or sadistic as Thanos, but I can almost see a similar situation happening.
I say team 2 wins.
BTW, if a physical bout were to occur, I doubt any of the DC guys could do anything to Nate Grey's TK armor. Hulk with the armor was able to temporarily bring it to Thanos who would solo MM and Despero.
" I placed Xavier in the battle begrudgingly. I couldn't find a more powerful Marvel telepath aside from Nate. Who's the most powerful telepath here? "Well, IMO it's between MM and Nate.
Franklin Richards, Cable, Styfe, Quentin Quire, Hope Summers" I placed Xavier in the battle begrudgingly. I couldn't find a more powerful Marvel telepath aside from Nate. Who's the most powerful telepath here? "
I don't know if you'd consider them better then Professor X but they're very capable.
I find it odd that everyones putting down charles here when i've seen better TP feats from him that i have from martian manhunter. I also find it odd that everyones saying nate grey is the strongest here when the only comic i saw him in involved him not even being able to keep control of Norman osborn in a TP fight. If anything Team 2 wins because nate grey is the weak link. But charles is the best in tp between himself and the martian. I dont really know about despero all that much
" I find it odd that everyones putting down charles here when i've seen better TP feats from him that i have from martian manhunter. I also find it odd that everyones saying nate grey is the strongest here when the only comic i saw him in involved him not even being able to keep control of Norman osborn in a TP fight. If anything Team 2 wins because nate grey is the weak link. But charles is the best in tp between himself and the martian. I dont really know about despero all that much "What feat does Charles have that outshines the Martian?
" @Hangar_18 said:" I find it odd that everyones putting down charles here when i've seen better TP feats from him that i have from martian manhunter. I also find it odd that everyones saying nate grey is the strongest here when the only comic i saw him in involved him not even being able to keep control of Norman osborn in a TP fight. If anything Team 2 wins because nate grey is the weak link. But charles is the best in tp between himself and the martian. I dont really know about despero all that much "What feat does Charles have that outshines the Martian? "
apparently you don't know the difference between two men using psychic powers to barely force themselves inside galactus head, and charles using billions merged into one mind as psychic energy and doing it. It makes a lot more sense than than a certain green dude who couldn't keep the joker sane for more than 1 minute being able to go inside the spectres mind. I for one think he just entered the spectres host human mind
" @Lance Uppercut: apparently you don't know the difference between two men using psychic powers to barely force themselves inside galactus head, and charles using billions merged into one mind as psychic energy and doing it. It makes a lot more sense than than a certain green dude who couldn't keep the joker sane for more than 1 minute being able to go inside the spectres mind. I for one think he just entered the spectres host human mind "Apparently you don't know the difference between Charles reading the minds of nine billions people and then forcing them in to someones head as opposed to him borrowing the psychic energy of another. But hey, we all have our faults, right?
If you had bothered at all to properly read the scans you'd know that charles didn't just read the minds of 9 billion people, he gathered them and then he sent them to galactus as psychic energy the same way he did to havok and ego. But yes you're right, we do all have our faults. That much is obvious." @Hangar_18 said:
" @Lance Uppercut: apparently you don't know the difference between two men using psychic powers to barely force themselves inside galactus head, and charles using billions merged into one mind as psychic energy and doing it. It makes a lot more sense than than a certain green dude who couldn't keep the joker sane for more than 1 minute being able to go inside the spectres mind. I for one think he just entered the spectres host human mind "Apparently you don't know the difference between Charles reading the minds of nine billions people and then forcing them in to someones head as opposed to him borrowing the psychic energy of another. But hey, we all have our faults, right? "
I did read the scans. Hence why I'm having to reply to your outlandish claims, Spike." @Lance Uppercut said:
If you had bothered at all to properly read the scans you'd know that charles didn't just read the minds of 9 billion people, he gathered them and then he sent them to galactus as psychic energy the same way he did to havok and ego. But yes you're right, we do all have our faults. That much is obvious. "" @Hangar_18 said:
" @Lance Uppercut: apparently you don't know the difference between two men using psychic powers to barely force themselves inside galactus head, and charles using billions merged into one mind as psychic energy and doing it. It makes a lot more sense than than a certain green dude who couldn't keep the joker sane for more than 1 minute being able to go inside the spectres mind. I for one think he just entered the spectres host human mind "Apparently you don't know the difference between Charles reading the minds of nine billions people and then forcing them in to someones head as opposed to him borrowing the psychic energy of another. But hey, we all have our faults, right? "
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He could gather the psychic energy of millions of dogs, and it wouldn't matter because unless they all have some sort of quantifiable psychic output, it wouldn't mean jack. Care to take a guess at how much psychic potential each and every Skrull from an alternate earth has? I'll wait. What's that? No? Oh. Right. Because you couldn't win that argument. The most you can do is make some claim that nine billion minds creates a quantifiable force to penetrate the psychic defenses of Galactus, while never being able to prove that any of them have any relevant amount of psychic skill. Bravo on creating the most baseless argument in existence. Call me when you come up with something useful.
"He could gather the psychic energy of millions of dogs, and it wouldn't matter because unless they all have some sort of quantifiable psychic output, it wouldn't mean jack"
And once again if you had even bothered to read the scans instead of trying to put on your best House impression, i wouldn't have to be here repeating myself. It's funny because one of the scans i posted clearly stated charles "horded" psychic energy from everyone he could find on selendiar. Doctors, servants, pilots, mostly diplomats and used them as sort of a big battery of psychic energy. So basically, the scans > your opinion and condescension. Care to take a guess at how many of those people in that spaceport/planet where diplomats gathered had crazy levels of psychic energy output enough to effect ego? I don't have to prove anything of the sort because charles didn't need infinite times x amount of psychic output from people when he did the same against ego. Not to mention that charles using one lone mutant with small latent psychic ability in your OWN scan was almost able to get into galactus mind and would have if said mutant wasn't so impatient. Call me when you actually have an argument that isn't just you trying to be a condescending jerk that cant be bothered to read a couple of scans. Something tells me i'm gonna be call screening you for awhile tho. It really doesn't bother me that you try so hard to be a jerk, it's just, i mean LOL its the internet, why so serious? I have to admit that your hubris is a bit amusing. I also find the fact that your calling my argument based on facts and scans baseless, when yours is (no offense) just downright stupid. I mean you pretty much destroyed your own argument with your own scan. If you want to make the claim that what x did to galactus was bs using billions of people, then dont post a scan of him nearly succeeding in doing the same feat with just one person. And before you start with that borrowing psychic energy vs reading minds thing he clearly stated he borrowed psychic energy when he fought against ego and it stated the same when he faced the znox.
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