Primus and Unicron vs. Galactus and Imperiex

For this fight we will use cancellation. So basically, if 2 opposing forces have the same abilitie on about the same power level, then they can't affect the other with it. This is to be sure that we don't spend hours debating which would affect the other. 
 
Battle takes place in a barren Universe with no life except for these guys. There is no " what if's ", so basically if one side doesn't have it, then they don't have it. They can use the environment to thier advantages though.

 
Explain why your side would win. No spamming by just saying one side over and over again without a reason why. 
 
EDIT: Also, no time travel / time manipulation, and no heralds.

"Galactus kills all 3 of them. "

@I'm Infinite:

Your the last person I'd want to see in any of my threads. Now get the heck out !!!

"@Hellos:  they can summon the entire transformer race to help
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unicron 
 
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Primus     " 

"

@I'm Infinite:

Your the last person I'd want to see in any of my threads. Now get the heck out !!!

"

"@Hellos said:

"Galactus kills all 3 of them. "

Why would galan kill his teammate??? Also, don't forget the WHY part. "

"@Hellos: not likely Unicron and Primus are gods they are bigger and they have excellent self repair abilities and alot of firepower
 

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unicron 
 
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Primus     "

@Hellos:

What is technoapathy

"

@Hellos:

What is technoapathy

"

I don't know if technopathy would work on them since he would have to hack their minds, and their minds are pretty darn powerful.

Actually wait, never mind. They don't really have minds. Their true form is some kind of spirit / energy / mystical thingy. That also includes their consciousness.  
 
As per the cancellation rule, Mind hacking would be disqualified since primus and unicron can also hack and go into people / beings minds too.

"

I don't know if technopathy would work on them since he would have to hack their minds, and their minds are pretty darn powerful.

Actually wait, never mind. They don't really have minds. Their true form is some kind of spirit / energy / mystical thingy. That also includes their consciousness.  
 
As per the cancellation rule, Mind hacking would be disqualified since primus and unicron can also hack and go into people / beings minds too.

"

The matrix of leadership is part of the essence of Primus Which is Unicron's weakness. Unicron or Primus can't be killed by mear energy projection. In Transformers energon when Super big Optimus supreme was fighting Unicron, Unicron unleashed about 10 planet busters at point blank range on optimus. Optimus emerged unscratched, and Unicron's armor is superior to Optimus's.

 
Here is a list of what Primus or Unicron can do to take down Galactus: 
 
1. Unicron unleashes many, many planet busters at Galactus.
 
2. Primus uses a portion of his power to kill Galactus. ( a portion of Primus's power is powerful enough to destroy, create, dominate / rule for eternity a Universe, as seen and heard in the Transformers cybertron show. Heck, a portion of Primus's power is enough to destroy a multiverse consuming black hole. ( as seen in the show )
 
3. Primus and Unicron destroy all the planetary bodies before Galactus can eat, starving him to death

 
4. Power level. It seems to me that they are on a higher power level than Galactus.

To compare power levels and to see who would win, list Galactus's best feats / acomplishments.

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The matrix of leadership is part of the essence of Primus Which is Unicron's weakness. Unicron or Primus can't be killed by mear energy projection. In Transformers energon when Super big Optimus supreme was fighting Unicron, Unicron unleashed about 10 planet busters at point blank range on optimus. Optimus emerged unscratched, and Unicron's armor is superior to Optimus's.

 
Here is a list of what Primus or Unicron can do to take down Galactus: 
 
1. Unicron unleashes many, many planet busters at Galactus.
 
2. Primus uses a portion of his power to kill Galactus. ( a portion of Primus's power is powerful enough to destroy, create, dominate / rule for eternity a Universe, as seen and heard in the Transformers cybertron show. Heck, a portion of Primus's power is enough to destroy a multiverse consuming black hole. ( as seen in the show )
 
3. Primus and Unicron destroy all the planetary bodies before Galactus can eat, starving him to death

 
4. Power level. It seems to me that they are on a higher power level than Galactus.

"

Galactus solos with utter ease.

@Hellos: 
 
I love how you completely ignored the second point. 
 
Until Galactus has a multiversal feat that puts him on par with Primus, He loses.

EDIT: also, the autobots only blew up the pathetically weak G1 unicron. I'm using Unicron trilogy Unicron.

"To compare power levels and to see who would win, list Galactus's best feats / acomplishments. "

"@stafikking said:

"To compare power levels and to see who would win, list Galactus's best feats / acomplishments. "

Eh they both destroyed an entire universe fightign eachother and the very blackness of space. Galactus and Imperiex will scare under the presence of both...Unicron would actually solo in this fight.... "

"You know what, I give up. It's pretty obvious that I can't convinve you guys that galactus would lose since you all think that Primus and Unicron are just big robots.   Basically it breaks down like this:  Galactus when fully fed can destroy a universe or 2.  Primus at full power can Destroy a multiverse destroying black hole, can recreate, destroy, and dominate for an eternity all of time and space. Heck, even the omega lock with keyes ( a portion of primus's power ) is powerful enough to destroy, recreate, and dominate universes.  I'll say it one more time. Until you guys give me a multiversal level feat for galactus that puts him on par with Primus, he loses. "

@stafikking said:

"You know what, I give up. It's pretty obvious that I can't convinve you guys that galactus would lose since you all think that Primus and Unicron are just big robots.   Basically it breaks down like this:  Galactus when fully fed can destroy a universe or 2.  Primus at full power can Destroy a multiverse destroying black hole, can recreate, destroy, and dominate for an eternity all of time and space. Heck, even the omega lock with keyes ( a portion of primus's power ) is powerful enough to destroy, recreate, and dominate universes.  I'll say it one more time. Until you guys give me a multiversal level feat for galactus that puts him on par with Primus, he loses. "

"

@Hellos: 
 
I love how you completely ignored the second point. 
 
Until Galactus has a multiversal feat that puts him on par with Primus, He loses.

 

EDIT: also, the autobots only blew up the pathetically weak G1 unicron. I'm using Unicron trilogy Unicron.

"

"Eh they both destroyed an entire universe fightign eachother and the very blackness of space. Galactus and Imperiex will scare under the presence of both...Unicron would actually solo in this fight.... "

"You know what, I give up. It's pretty obvious that I can't convinve you guys that galactus would lose since you all think that Primus and Unicron are just big robots.   Basically it breaks down like this:  Galactus when fully fed can destroy a universe or 2.  Primus at full power can Destroy a multiverse destroying black hole, can recreate, destroy, and dominate for an eternity all of time and space. Heck, even the omega lock with keyes ( a portion of primus's power ) is powerful enough to destroy, recreate, and dominate universes.  I'll say it one more time. Until you guys give me a multiversal level feat for galactus that puts him on par with Primus, he loses. "

http://img401.imageshack.us/i/20396565ii7.jpg/    
" Galactus' appetite became insatiable
and it threatened to consume All Existence"
 
http://img181.imageshack.us/i/biggomni1iq6.jpg/      
"Celestial renegade (Taimut) constructed a weapon (Galactus)
mighty enough to threaten the ENTIRE Space-Time structure of the OMNIVERSE"      Galactus curbstomps these two, and Unicron hasn't done a multi-versal feat.. "

lawl. You want multi-versal feat?  
 
http://img21.imageshack.us/i/fantasticfourv34618.jpg/  
"Should Abraxas reach the Nullifier before we do -- -- he can obilirate all the combined realities of the multi-verse..." 
 
The Ultimate Nullifier is a part of Galactus:  
http://img46.imageshack.us/i/fantasticfourv34915.jpg/ 
"The Ultimate Nullifier -- as much part of me as my heart itself"
  
Now you give me an omniversal feat for either Primus or Unicron.  
Observe: 
 
http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=9te0.jpg     
Continued, read these three carefully: 
http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10qt9.jpg     
" The time will come soon when ALL the Energy in the UNIVERSE,
through out it's HISTORY will NOT be SUFFICIENT to feed him"    

http://img401.imageshack.us/i/20396565ii7.jpg/    
" Galactus' appetite became insatiable
and it threatened to consume All Existence"
 
http://img181.imageshack.us/i/biggomni1iq6.jpg/      
"Celestial renegade (Taimut) constructed a weapon (Galactus)
mighty enough to threaten the ENTIRE Space-Time structure of the OMNIVERSE"      Galactus curbstomps these two, and Unicron hasn't done a multi-versal feat.. "

Standard Unicron/Primus win.  There was one universe where Unicron was just the most powerful invention of this one guy.  In every other continuity, they're both Primordial Gods.

" Unicron has done an multiversal feat... He's destroyed the entire TF multiverse...Unicron isn't just some big ass robot. He's actually an god while Galactus is just an force of nature. "

" @Superman2099 said:

" Unicron has done an multiversal feat... He's destroyed the entire TF multiverse...Unicron isn't just some big ass robot. He's actually an god while Galactus is just an force of nature. "

A God you say?

Come now, how little value does said word "God" mean when your not even talking about a character thats not nigh omnipotent?  Don't suppose we can get some scans of Unicron and Primus to atleast try for a convincing argument other than hearing about how powerful they are? "

"@stafikking:   you have no point..for he love of god....get of the transformers nuts already...You were already told in the last Galctus vs tranformer thread about what galactus could do......and youre in here with OMG galactus will be killed with repeated planet busters...i mean i wasnt going to say anything..i was just going to laugh at you while i went about my day....but you just wont let it go XD   And now youre babbling on abou primus being a multiversal threat XD XD XD XD galactus solos the end...thats all you need to know "

"Yes he is a god. I wouldn't be using the word if he wasn't.  
 

"

" @Hellos:  More like one universe at a time. Unicron and Primus are too much for Galactus and Imperiex... "

@Superman2099 said:

" @Hellos:  More like one universe at a time. Unicron and Primus are too much for Galactus and Imperiex... "

No. It was one PLANET at a time. "The resultant explosion triggered a chain reaction that led - OVER COUNTLESS TRILLIONS of your years..." Fairly obvious no? Not a multi-versal feat. Galactus solos.
 

"@Hellos: I just assume it's showing Unicron beginning to consume the multiverse again after he found out it had been reborn. Unicron is an multiversal consumer. "

" @RiseofApocalypse:  I post the scan showing his multiversal feat and you still don't even get it you Galactus fanboy. That's not even what the scan says.  
 
@Hellos: I just assume it's showing Unicron beginning to consume the multiverse again after he found out it had been reborn. Unicron is an multiversal consumer. "

" @Superman2099 said:

"@Hellos: I just assume it's showing Unicron beginning to consume the multiverse again after he found out it had been reborn. Unicron is an multiversal consumer. "

It's showing him in the void of nothingness, the remaining portions of realms converging to create a big bang and poof new universe that Unicron is smashing rocks in with a mace. Theres no him sucking up the TF multiverse like a slushi and such. "

*gasp* incredible, I've never had 2 people on ,my side before. You know, the thing is, most people here don't have a clue about Primus or Unicron's power. If you ever want proof, we always try to post some for you, but it's just that the evidence comes from such a big range that it's hard to convey it all in a few pictures / scans / vids etc. 
 
Here is a fact, one more time, and please don't ignore it, answer it.
 
A portion of Primus's power is able to create, destroy, reshape and rule for eternity a universe / multiverse. ( the portion being the omega lock with keyes, and the evidence being in the show etc. )

So if a portion of Primus's power is able to do all that, Imagine what full power primus can do. Not only that, but Unicron is a bit more powerful than Primus. So here is how it breaks down. 
 
3: lock with keyes, able to destroy, create, reshape, and rule an entire Universe / Multiverse 
 
2: Primus is WAYYYYYYY above the lock and keyes since they are just a little portion of his power 
 
3: Unicron is a bit stronger than Galactus. 
 
So basically, Unicron or Primus can solo Galactus with 2 eyes closed and 1 hand behind their back.

Also, Omniverse is all universes real or imagined. As far as I know, their is no fictional character capable of affecting our universe.

"Did you read the scans said only once? He destroyed the former TF multiverse but there was just enough small fragments of the destroyed multiverse to give rebirth to the transformers multiverse and Unicron eventually finds out about the multiverse being reborn again and sets out to consume it again. The Unicron smashing on the rock thing is just showing Unicron's out to destroy the multiverse again.  "

"@stafikking said:

"You know what, I give up. It's pretty obvious that I can't convinve you guys that galactus would lose since you all think that Primus and Unicron are just big robots.   Basically it breaks down like this:  Galactus when fully fed can destroy a universe or 2.  Primus at full power can Destroy a multiverse destroying black hole, can recreate, destroy, and dominate for an eternity all of time and space. Heck, even the omega lock with keyes ( a portion of primus's power ) is powerful enough to destroy, recreate, and dominate universes.  I'll say it one more time. Until you guys give me a multiversal level feat for galactus that puts him on par with Primus, he loses. "

I had the same problem when debatign TF when I came on this site 3 yrs ago thats why I stopped doing those threads... "

"@stafikking said:

"You know what, I give up. It's pretty obvious that I can't convinve you guys that galactus would lose since you all think that Primus and Unicron are just big robots.   Basically it breaks down like this:  Galactus when fully fed can destroy a universe or 2.  Primus at full power can Destroy a multiverse destroying black hole, can recreate, destroy, and dominate for an eternity all of time and space. Heck, even the omega lock with keyes ( a portion of primus's power ) is powerful enough to destroy, recreate, and dominate universes.  I'll say it one more time. Until you guys give me a multiversal level feat for galactus that puts him on par with Primus, he loses. "

lawl. You want multi-versal feat?  
 
http://img21.imageshack.us/i/fantasticfourv34618.jpg/  
"Should Abraxas reach the Nullifier before we do -- -- he can obilirate all the combined realities of the multi-verse..." 
 
The Ultimate Nullifier is a part of Galactus:  
http://img46.imageshack.us/i/fantasticfourv34915.jpg/ 
"The Ultimate Nullifier -- as much part of me as my heart itself"
  
Now you give me an omniversal feat for either Primus or Unicron.  
Observe: 
 
http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=9te0.jpg     
Continued, read these three carefully: 
http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10qt9.jpg     
" The time will come soon when ALL the Energy in the UNIVERSE,
through out it's HISTORY will NOT be SUFFICIENT to feed him"    

http://img401.imageshack.us/i/20396565ii7.jpg/    
" Galactus' appetite became insatiable
and it threatened to consume All Existence"
 
http://img181.imageshack.us/i/biggomni1iq6.jpg/      
"Celestial renegade (Taimut) constructed a weapon (Galactus)
mighty enough to threaten the ENTIRE Space-Time structure of the OMNIVERSE"      Galactus curbstomps these two, and Unicron hasn't done a multi-versal feat.. "

"@RiseofApocalypse:  And i'm saying again that it won't affect them. Why, well simple, They each have the power to destroy, create, reshape, rule a multiverse with ease. So guys who have been trading blows on the multiverse level aren't gonna suffer from a single UN blast. Again, please answer my point."