Prime Superman One Million vs Silver Surfer

Badass vs asskicker

SP1M is basically featless. Surfer wins by default, IMO.

couldn't surfer turn the air around them to emit kryptonite radiation?

SP1M is apparently immune to Kryptonite.

superman one million takes this easy

SPOM

SP1M, though featless but still should be of a high enough level to own Norrin.

Superman Prime One Million.

No speed feats, no durability feats, no combat feats, no strength feats. How do you suggest SPOM wins, all pointless speculation aside?

Golden Boy is a fealtless wonder..

Silver Surfer stomps

Feat wise surfer wrecks

By stated power Superman wreckssssss

fracking Full power Sailor moon wrecks golden in a nanosecond.

What power? like how he needed help to bring someone back from the dead? LMAO!!!

No fight parameters specified. Thor tools Surfer routinely. Any version of Superman beats Thor. Superman Prime 1 mill? No brainer, SMP1M curbstomps.

SP1M

@classymerc

Superman Prime One Million doesn't even have stated power. No seriously, his hierarchy and extent of his powers wasn't even stated in the comics.

@mysticmedivh: yet we have two users above you picking the featless wonder LOLOLOL

Could you tell me his feats?

@mysticmedivh: giving powers to others, needing help to revive lois lane.......

@MystricMedivh: http://www.screwattack.com/news/how-powerful-superman-prime

Not only is that written by a user who has an account on the website, but ScrewAttack is notoriously unreliable and inaccurate.

I want you to tell me why Superman wins, who is quite frankly featless and hasn't done anything to suggest he could keep up with Surfer.

@mysticmedivh: I was going to post the scans but then I remembered who asked me, I knew you'd just either lowball, say SA knows nothing(even though hey make a good case here) or overhype SS etc something of the sort and I was right...shocker.

He wins simply because he's more powerful, he doesn't need a million feats. The logic of this topic is really flawed as I'm pretty sure those who say "SS, Prime has no feats blah, blah" pretty much are saying "I judge battles by feat numbers, nothing else matters" can't say I'm surprised though, that is the often flawed logic of CV battles it's why I hardly post here anymore in these forums because majority go by popularity not actual power levels, feats, what one is capable of, weaknesses etc.

Well then, by that logic I guess Batman beats TOAA and Presence right? Because afterall he simply has "more feats" but feel free to ignore power levels and the fact that Prime is immune to magic or kryptonite, so good luck with that. He owns Surfer here. The fact that he has no weaknesses, created his own universe, oneshotted Solaris, brought Lois back and hones the power of Superman x a billion + learning 5th dimensional powers from an imp where Mxy's from thus amping him tremendously is more than enough to stomp SS. SS has gotten chocked by mortals like Black Panther and knocked out by a bunch of latinos with hammers....I think Prime manages quite easily.

But if we play your game and we go by feat amount exclusively right? Ok Batman beats SS then too :) has more feats than SS.

Superman Prime One Million

@fallingcliffs:

TOAA and the Presence have statements from their parent companies to where they stand in their Universes. Prime has nothing but fanboy assumptions.

Again feats or statements from DC to indicate Prime power level or it just fanboy assumptions.

@jestersmiles: really? I guess same can be said about SS fanboys are also assumptions, maybe when SS doesn't get k.oed by a bunch of latinos with hammers or chocked by Batman clones, I'll buy that argument. Til then Prime stomps SS and yes he does have feats, but you people ignore them.

@d34dp00l81920 best not to post battles with Supes one million. People on here only trust feats. Not raw power/potential to be above the other.

If were going after the powers Supes would completely demolish. If were going by their sacred feats then Silver would win.

My opinion is supes wins. Superman has no weakness, minus slight insanity.

What this guy said ^ it's why people don't know what they're talking about with video game topic threads either or when it comes to Superman more powerful versions either, the lowballing that goes on with SF, MK, Halo, Mass Effect etc topics is ridiculous on here but not surprising when going up against a comic character. This guy hits the nail on the head. By CV logic with "feats matters nothing else" Batman stomps everyone then lol.

It's also no secret The SS is more popular than Prime 1 million is on here, it's so obvious...it doesn't make him more powerful than Prime however. I agree.

what powers? please tell me what powers has DC said that he has? or are you making assumptions as all Prime fanboys do.

Would you like to know the difference between Presence/TOAA and SPOM?

For the most part, their hierarchy and place in their respective realities is confirmed and apparent.

The Presence is superior to Michael and Lucifer, held all of creation in the palm of his hand, and fought Great Evil Beast.

TOAA is the writer, you can argue that everything in the existence of Marvel is because of TOAA, he is the one who writes the plot, creates the images, etc. The Living Tribunal also gets his powers from TOAA himself.

Superman Prime One Million? Nowhere in the comics has his place in the universe been stated. There has been nothing credible to actually suggest his power, it has just been speculation made by fans.

As for what few feats he does have? They aren't impressive given the circumstances.

• Had to use a Green Power Ring to defeat a weakened Solaris.
• Had to use Lois's DNA and the help of a 5th Dimensional Imp in order to resurrect her.
• Krypton was only recreated because of the 5th Dimensional Imp.
• Couldn't stop the destruction of a universe.

@mysticmedivh:

Me while debunking Prime fanboys....

What who said was nonsense? Cause I don't even always agree with SA, they're as biased as the posters who judge battles on here lol.

But fact of the matter is power level wise, Prime stomps SS easily. If you just everything by just feats, then as I said Batman stomps all...but of course we don't say that right cause that would be silly? Exactly my point.

There is no difference, both are "God" of their universe. God and looks over everything, Presence/God does the same for DCU. Other series/franchise in comics, vid games and fiction TV, movies etc have them as well or their own interpretations of such. Yes we know that about Presence and TOAA, nobody is questioning them. But actual "feat number wise" they have far fewer than Batman, Superman, SS, Thor etc that's all I'm saying. Obviously they stomp everyone, yes. That's exactly my point. Why? Simply because they're MORE powerful...period.

Also, given the fact that current continuity counts there is NO GEB in New 52. Presence confirmed he's the only creator of all and omnipotent. He is God, more accurate to the Christian God however than TOAA is...

Either way, Prime is still more powerful than SS is. The guy created or hinted at least that he created his own universe. When has SS ever done this? The dudes been KOed by latino workers with hammers and tied up...and unlike DC who likes to retcon tons of stuff, Marvel hardly ever does so hate to say it's canon.

Who cares if he used a ring to weaken, he still one shot Solaris.

Yes, he used Lois's DNA. Not even SS can resurrect someone without having their DNA or body there. Your point?

A 5th Dimensional imp combined with Prime's power...

Neither could SS. He could barely stop the destruction of a planet when Galactus targeted Earth.

Also, SS while powerful has weaknesses. Prime 1 million on the other hand has none.

Maybe when SS doesn't get koed by latinos with hammers and tied up, I'll believe different til then Prime murks SS here. You want to use "Prime couldn't save someone's Universe" at least that's an actual daunting task, unlike being able to beat a bunch of humans with hammers and rope...

This scan right here debunks any SS fanboy claims now lol... ^

@fallingcliffs: Give up, the Silver Surfer stomps, and your arguing for a character with basically no feats, this isn't some DBZ power scaling assumptions etc.

@jestersmiles: lol at that Gif.

Sorry Prime still stomps boys but it's ok, I wouldn't want to admit getting beat by humans either if I were a "cosmic being" lol

Also king, he DOES have feats are you blind? DBZ? Dude, why even bring that up anime topics and discussions are banned last time I saw besides most of them don't even live up to comic cosmic power houses anyway.

What's not credible jester is you ignoring power levels but as I said, and @savageslayer said people don't logic here, only "feat numbers" nothing else.

Also, dude please dont' lecture anyone on credit when you're posting back and forth on two different accounts...not fooling anyone lol. And no I'm not talking about this king dude.

Sorry but that "low end feat" [says the guys who say "Prime 1 million is featless" ha...the irony] is still canon last time I checked.

@dredeuced Are you the guy that's the expert with Superman Prime and in general right? Didn't that comic state he had no weakness to anything?

If you actually read the book, it's NOT made by fans. It's fact. He was practically omnipotent, not saying he was but he had no weaknesses and the comics stated he had NO weakness to magic nor kryptonite. SS loses here. Dude, SA Superman it was said to be the Prime 1 million and everyone on here agrees SA Supes stomps SS hard. SA+15,000 sundipped years=SS's not winning.

@fallingcliffs said:

@jestersmiles said:

@fallingcliffs: what he said was nonsense , so ya I would not cling to that.

What who said was nonsense? Cause I don't even always agree with SA, they're as biased as the posters who judge battles on here lol.

But fact of the matter is power level wise, Prime stomps SS easily. If you just everything by just feats, then as I said Batman stomps all...but of course we don't say that right cause that would be silly? Exactly my point.

@mysticmedivh said:

Superman Prime One Million? Nowhere in the comics has his place in the universe been stated. There has been nothing credible to actually suggest his power, it has just been speculation made by fans.

As for what few feats he does have? They aren't impressive given the circumstances.

• Had to use a Green Power Ring to defeat a weakened Solaris.
• Had to use Lois's DNA and the help of a 5th Dimensional Imp in order to resurrect her.
• Krypton was only recreated because of the 5th Dimensional Imp.
• Couldn't stop the destruction of a universe.

There is no difference, both are "God" of their universe. God and looks over everything, Presence/God does the same for DCU. Other series/franchise in comics, vid games and fiction TV, movies etc have them as well or their own interpretations of such. Yes we know that about Presence and TOAA, nobody is questioning them. But actual "feat number wise" they have far fewer than Batman, Superman, SS, Thor etc that's all I'm saying. Obviously they stomp everyone, yes. That's exactly my point. Why? Simply because they're MORE powerful...period.

Also, given the fact that current continuity counts there is NO GEB in New 52. Presence confirmed he's the only creator of all and omnipotent. He is God, more accurate to the Christian God however than TOAA is...

Either way, Prime is still more powerful than SS is. The guy created or hinted at least that he created his own universe. When has SS ever done this? The dudes been KOed by latino workers with hammers and tied up...and unlike DC who likes to retcon tons of stuff, Marvel hardly ever does so hate to say it's canon.

Who cares if he used a ring to weaken, he still one shot Solaris.

Yes, he used Lois's DNA. Not even SS can resurrect someone without having their DNA or body there. Your point?

A 5th Dimensional imp combined with Prime's power...

Neither could SS. He could barely stop the destruction of a planet when Galactus targeted Earth.

Also, SS while powerful has weaknesses. Prime 1 million on the other hand has none.

Maybe when SS doesn't get koed by latinos with hammers and tied up, I'll believe different til then Prime murks SS here. You want to use "Prime couldn't save someone's Universe" at least that's an actual daunting task, unlike being able to beat a bunch of humans with hammers and rope...

This scan right here debunks any SS fanboy claims now lol... ^

He didn't use a ring to weaken Solaris. Superman using a Green Lantern ring fought Solaris that had already been weakened.

He didn't just need DNA, he had to get help from his 5th dimensional imp friend.

No, Superman didn't combine with a 5th dimensional imp, but feel free to prove me wrong.

There's no need to use the term fanboy and use PIS instance to prove a point. I can show PIS instances involving Thanos, Darkseid, Superman, Spectre, etc. It's just making you look bad, to be honest.

You said it yourself, TOAA and Presence are confirmed. Meanwhile SPOM is in a state of limbo, there's nothing to "confirm" his place in the universe. And his feats aren't impressive either.

Yes, he used Lois's DNA. Not even SS can resurrect someone without having their DNA or body there. Your point?

Neither could SS. He could barely stop the destruction of a planet when Galactus targeted Earth.

^^ And those aren't combat feats.

Also, SS while powerful has weaknesses. Prime 1 million on the other hand has none.

What exploitable weakness does Surfer have.

Also, can you prove to me that SPOM has no weaknesses?

@fallingcliffs: He doesn't have feats anywhere near SS, so stop talking rubbish, you are sounding like a DBZ fan who has come across SMP1M, he is nothing to Norrin; your argument is invalid.

SS stomps, give up, unless this is a joke; and your actually just trying to troll everyone...