Pre retcon Molecule man Vs Living Tribunal,Eternity,Infinity,Galactus,Zeus.
Who takes this ?
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PR-MM wrecks.
Does he needs to prove he's above again? Im asking because Molecule Man already did on panel against the same team...
when can you show me
Owen turns them all into closets
with easy?
Owen turns them all into closets
with easy?
Yes, with one billion easy
PR MM beats anyone from Marvel except: PR Beyonder, TOAA, HOTU Thanos, and maybe (big maybe) Scathan.
Current LT might be able to beat Pre-recton Molecule Man IMO considering it took 3 Beyonders to beat him I believe...
I thought he was dead on the moon? Did I miss something?
@green_skaar: That was a scan however he also fought 3 Beyonders recently ish I think...
@green_skaar: That was a scan however he also fought 3 Beyonders recently ish I think...
You know the issue off hand? Wasn't aware, thanks.
@kurcina: Sure... Owen was shown to be above everyone during the Secret Wars II #6, he was stated to be above all the abstracts by Uatu The Watcher...
He flat out states Owen Reece is more powerful than all the other beings of the Universe while picturing Mephisto, The In-Betweener, Death, Infinity and The Living Tribunal. Moreover, when he decided to talk with Beyonder, all the abstracts were freaking out including Living Tribunal like he was some sort of boss to them in the same issue...
So yeah, he already proved his superiority over them and considering he also was the sole being who could fight PR-Beyonder already seals the deal about it.
Owen turns them all into closets
with easy?
Yes, with one billion easy
@green_skaar@kingant27 It may have taken three Beyonder's to defeat LT, but I doubt they were as strong as PR-Beyonder, who could probably crush the multiverse between his index finger and thumb.
Guys, this thread is stupid, Pre-Retcon Molecule Man is near multiverse-buster. These guys aren`t even on his level. Pre-Retcon Beyonder is way beyond Molecule Man, he was going to erase the multiverse because it ANNOYED him!
PR MM Blinks
everyone there dies instantly
this
@kingant27: nah tphe is dead that issue was set in the past and 3 beyonders stomped LT so you cannot tell if one would be able to do it but seeing as LT asked owen to fight beyonder he's weaker than MM
@comicsrulebutdbzdoes2: They didn't stomp him, they beat him, difference.
Also current LT was different from LT back then, due to know One Above All being confirmed not until later etc...
@comicsrulebutdbzdoes2: They didn't stomp him, they beat him, difference.
Also current LT was different from LT back then, due to know One Above All being confirmed not until later etc...
LT was as powerful back then as he is now.
@mysticmedivh: true. All you have to do is check out his feats before that, then after that.
If that's not enough, compare all PR MM and Beyonders feats to powerful characters after them, you can see (without the statements) that their not really as powerful as many people believe. Powerful, yes. But so powerful he can, what, crush a multiverse with his fingers? Absolutely not
@kingant27: well what do you consider a stomp i feel it was a stomp LT couldnt do anything to them and it was ended in 1 panel
@comicsrulebutdbzdoes2: They didn't stomp him, they beat him, difference.
Also current LT was different from LT back then, due to know One Above All being confirmed not until later etc...
No, they stomped him
@mysticmedivh: No he isn't, back then, No One Above All was confirmed etc, whereas later he was giving the 2nd to god thing more a prominent role etc; due to the One Above All etc.
@mysticmedivh: No he isn't, back then, No One Above All was confirmed etc, whereas later he was giving the 2nd to god thing more a prominent role etc; due to the One Above All etc.
The One Above All always had to exist in the first place in order for LT to have had his powers and position as supreme judge of the multiverse.
I have multiple classic scans that prove LT was above all abstract/cosmic beings in the multiverse, that he was supreme judge of the Marvel multiverse, and one that states that his power was supreme in the entire multiverse (aside from TOAA, of course). He is just as powerful.
Think of it like this. It's like saying there's a character, let's use the Silver Surfer. But let's say that he appears in the comics for 20 years, yet there's no mention of where he got his powers and who he got it from. After the 20 years it is eventually revealed that a never-before-seen-or-heard-of-being named Galactus was the one who gave him the Power Cosmic. Does this mean that Galactus was non-existent for the past 20 years? That the Surfer wasn't that powerful because for his first 20 years because it was never revealed that it was actually Galactus who gave him his powers?
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