Pre Retcon Beyonders vs Celestials

No prep, no bfr, no gear, no time limit, all bloodlusted, takes place in an unihabited universe, no one is

declared victor until the other is killed/severely incapacitated 10,000 Beyonders vs 10,000 Celestials

Beyonder

vs

Celestials

Is this the Beyonders' species , who are responsible for the creation of cosmic cubes, or Beyonder himself ?

In either case , the Celestials lose .

@TheGodKiller3 said:

Is this the Beyonders' species , who are responsible for the creation of cosmic cubes, or Beyonder himself ?

In either case , the Celestial lose .

This pre retcon Beyonder. Now just imagine 10,000 of them vs 10,000 Celestials.

@majestic99 said:

@TheGodKiller3 said:

Is this the Beyonders' species , who are responsible for the creation of cosmic cubes, or Beyonder himself ?

In either case , the Celestial lose .

This pre retcon Beyonder. Now just imagine 10,000 of them vs 10,000 Celestials.

This is a spite thread then . A single PR Beyonder was enough to solo all the Celestials by himself . Making a spite thread like this is not allowed . Your thread will probably get locked .

Celestials Lose badly..

Beyonders slaughterhouse.

@CitizenBane: @Chaos Prime: @TheGodKiller3 said:

This is a spite thread then . A single PR Beyonder was enough to solo all the Celestials by himself . Making a spite thread like this is not allowed . Your thread will probably get locked .

You mean mismatch, because I didn't create this thread with a clear winner in mind, I'm still unaware the major differences between pre and post retcon Beyonder.

What if it's one post retcon Beyonder vs Celestials and Galactus?

@majestic99 said:

@CitizenBane: @Chaos Prime: @TheGodKiller3 said:

This is a spite thread then . A single PR Beyonder was enough to solo all the Celestials by himself . Making a spite thread like this is not allowed . Your thread will probably get locked .

You mean mismatch, because I didn't create this thread with a clear winner in mind, I'm still unaware the major differences between pre and post retcon Beyonder.

What if it's one post retcon Beyonder vs Celestials and Galactus?

Beyonder gets stomped . Again a spite thread .

@TheGodKiller3 said:

Beyonder gets stomped . Again a spite thread .

A mismatch, not a spite.

What about post retcon Beyonder and Galactus vs Molecule Man and Celestials?

Beyonder stomps.

Pre Recton Beyonder spite

Spite thread.

This is a slaughterhouse.

@jeanroygrant said:

Pre Recton Beyonder spite

@Nefarious said:

Spite thread.

Not spite-mismatch. I didn't create this thread with a specific winner in mind.

Mismatch.

@majestic99 said:

@TheGodKiller3 said:

Beyonder gets stomped . Again a spite thread .

A mismatch, not a spite.

What about post retcon Beyonder and Galactus vs Molecule Man and Celestials?

Is Galactus fully fed ? I don't see any other version of the Big G taking on 10000 Celestials(A well-fed version barely held his own against 3) . And is this that MM which got destroyed by Sentry ? If he is , then again this is a mismatch in the Celestials' favor .

@TheGodKiller3 said:

Is Galactus fully fed ? I don't see any other version of the Big G taking on 10000 Celestials(A well-fed version barely held his own against 3) . And is this that MM which got destroyed by Sentry ? If he is , then again this is a mismatch in the Celestials' favor .

A fully fed Galactus and oneCelestial. And it was Void that killed MM, and that was PIS.

@majestic99 said:

@TheGodKiller3 said:

Is Galactus fully fed ? I don't see any other version of the Big G taking on 10000 Celestials(A well-fed version barely held his own against 3) . And is this that MM which got destroyed by Sentry ? If he is , then again this is a mismatch in the Celestials' favor .

A fully fed Galactus and oneCelestial. And it was Void that killed MM, and that was PIS.

Which Celestial ? If it is Tiamut , then this becomes a decent battle . Otherwise , its again a mismatch , with the roles reversed .

@TheGodKiller3 said:

Which Celestial ? If it is Tiamut , then this becomes a decent battle . Otherwise , its again a mismatch , with the roles reversed .

Tiamut, with same rules as in this op.

@majestic99 said:

@TheGodKiller3 said:

Which Celestial ? If it is Tiamut , then this becomes a decent battle . Otherwise , its again a mismatch , with the roles reversed .

Tiamut, with same rules as in this op.

Now this has become an interesting battle . I think Galactus might still come out on top ,as he has already eaten Tiamut in an allternate reality . It won't be easy though , as that Tiamut was greatly weakened and had to rely on Deviant tech to get back some of his power .

@TheGodKiller3:

I'm about to make a new battle.

@majestic99: PR Beyonder fought a host of Celestials in Secret Wars II and crushed all of them. While the story as a whole generally has substandard writing and substandard art, it is basically required reading if you're interested in how powerful PR Beyonder was and what the whole deal with him was about.

If just one Pre-Recton Beyonder caused so much trouble imagine 10.000 of them...

@majestic99: Since you are confused with Beyonder allow me to explain. We have seen 3 versions of Beyonder thus far

1. The orginal Beyonder (PR Beyonder) who was stated to be an entire universe the only difference being our universe compared to his was like a drop of water compared to a sea (an analogy that was expressly stated in Secret Wars 2). This Beyonder is close to being truely omnipotent and was stated to be more powerful than all the abstracts + Living Tribunal put together. He could single handedly solo the celestial without any problem whatsoever.

2. Then the Beyonder was retconned for the first time and was stated as an incomplete cosmic cube much like Molecular Man. The comics went on to say he's below the likes of Eternity, but that was obvious because Eternity > Cosmic Cube being. He himself doesnt have much feat apart from fighting Molecule Man (Evil morals off version) and losing to him although in the said fight Fantasitc Four 372 where the said battle was said to have multiversal consequences. Galaxies and planet were said to have busted on distance universes etc. So he is still pretty powerful, i would assume one of him would be able to take on of the celestials but not all of them together.

3. Then came the third and most current version of Beyonder who is now a mutant Inhuman who has been said to be omnipotent (with no feats) and while the Illumaniti went to see him he had his own world, had his own heroes and was playing with then entire space and time like a child with a lego (althouh 0 fighting feats).

Does no one here read classic comics?

Haha yeah now imagine 10.000 of Pre Recton Beyonders RIP Marvel/DC :)

@Killemall: @7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning: Mismatch, then.

If this is Pre ascention tiamut then Pre retcon Beyonder stomps.

If this is Post ascention tiamut then TIAMUT MURDERSTOMPS any and every version of beyonder combined.

Post ascention Tiamut >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Infinitely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. Pre retcon beyonder

@majestic99: this thread is soooo wrong i can't tell where to start explaining, sigh

• 1st : you said PRE RETCON Beyonders???!! in pre retcon story there is only one and unique Beyonder.
• 2nd : Beyonder, and i say Beyonder with no "s" will slaughter all species in the multiverse combined, not just Celestials.
• 3rd: i see that you know nothing about Marvel power hierarchy, so let me clarify it for you : Pre Retcon Molecule Man who is more powerful than any being in the multiverse including Living Tribunal, is nothing compared to Beyonder. In fact, the difference in power between Molecule Man and Beyonder is like the infinite difference between Captain america and Molecule Man. Now if you imagine all species in the multiverse are as powerful as Molecule Man and they all face Beyonder, it would be like an infinite number of Captain americas facing Molecule Man, do you think this ridiculous army of Caps will stand a chance against Living Tribunal? let alone Molecule Man?

The Beyonder won in the comics

Mismatch.

@All_Mighty_Beyonder: From Marvel who can match/beat Pre Beyonder in your opinion? I made a tread here on the vine ''Nemesis vs Sise-Neg'' http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/nemesis-vs-sise-neg/661517/ and it seems that Nemesis could be one of the few in that power range do you agree?

@X_insignia1 said:

Mismatch.

A huge one as well. 10k Beyonders?

@niBBit said:

@All_Mighty_Beyonder: From Marvel who can match/beat Pre Beyonder in your opinion? I made a tread here on the vine ''Nemesis vs Sise-Neg'' http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/nemesis-vs-sise-neg/661517/ and it seems that Nemesis could be one of the few in that power range do you agree?

no one, except TOAA

Nemesis or Infinity Being as was called in her first version, is a multiversal level being i would rank her just below Living Tribunal, she will still be overranked by LT, Protege, Molecule Man, Thanos with HOTU, Beyonder and of course TOAA

PRB easily.

One Pre Recton Beyonder could solo.

would like to see celestials-especially arishem- getting their asses kicked, i really hate them. i wish to see such thing in comics or in the avengers movies in the near future.

well beyonder wins so easy.

there wasn't a race called the beyonders before the retcon, only the one beyonder.

anyways, he didn't have any problem with the celestials when he was fighting them in secret wars 2 #5, you might as well add scathan to the picture and the beyonder still wins.

Pr Beyonder sh!ts on TOAA's chest

Jim Shooter backs it up

Pre-Retcon Beyonders Stomp

No one in Marvel except TOAA can beat 10.000 Pre-Retcon Beyonders

10,001 Pre Retcon Beyonders!

oh god, great answer