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#1 Posted by Hemlin (377 posts) - - Show Bio

Pre-Retcon Beyonder has been shown to have obliterated multiverses:

He'll be up against all versions of Superman

BQ: Is there any versions of Superman that has better feats than Pre-Retcon Beyonder and can take on him alone??

#2 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio

Pre Crisis Superman, Golden Superman Prime One Million and Superman thoughtbot have all the potential to stalemate PR Beyonder but none of them have shown feats to backup the claims. Every other version would just be blinked out of existence.

#3 Edited by Hemlin (377 posts) - - Show Bio

@ssejllenrad: Potential to just stalemate Beyonder?? I want to know if they can defeat a bloodlust PR Beyonder.

#4 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio

@Hemlin: Potential is potential. They are nigh omnipotents. It doesn't matter if PR Beyonder is bloodlusted or not. Infinity cannot be quantified. And in this case, theoretically, infinity could cancel out infinity. Simplifying it, we can say that if one stalemates him, then the other can take charge. But again, the problem is the level of quantification. Infinity plus infinity is still infinity. And the other problem is they have never shown the full extent of their powers. Well Superman thoughtbot has but that was showing his powers outside and beyond the multiverse. He is not a reality-warper. Just almost the same Superman powers but magnified to great extent to go beyond that of the multiverse. As to how I can compare that to Beyonder is really impossible.

There really is a problem pitting omnipotents vs omnipotents.

#5 Posted by theicon (1797 posts) - - Show Bio

would all versions  of  superman include  movies  ones  too? or  comic  only

#6 Posted by a88378438 (3420 posts) - - Show Bio

why you do this,beyonder easily wins

#7 Posted by a88378438 (3420 posts) - - Show Bio

Beyonder=omniverse The Fulcrum=omnipotents>omniverse o-a-a(stan lee)>The Fulcrum

#8 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

@a88378438 said:

why you do this,beyonder easily wins

DC Multiverse....

R.I.P

Theme song as multiverse and all characters including all realities of Superman and his clones disappear...

#9 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

But then again. Beyonder is merciful...

He'll revive all of them back into existence after awhile.

#10 Posted by a88378438 (3420 posts) - - Show Bio

Multiverse

#11 Posted by a88378438 (3420 posts) - - Show Bio

Multiverse

#12 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

Beyonder being such a nice guy even makes Superman more powerful by constructing him with a new body...

And new troops to command!

#13 Posted by a88378438 (3420 posts) - - Show Bio

megaverse

#14 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio
  • Universe is like a room
  • Multiverse is like a house
  • Megaverse is like a block

If you can destroy a room, you can move to the next room and destroy it and then move to the next room until you destroy it and then continue on until the whole house gets destroyed. Once the house is destroyed, move onto the next house and destroy its rooms until that house is destroyed until you covered the whole block.

Get it??????

#15 Posted by greenteaforme (1826 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

  • Universe is like a room
  • Multiverse is like a house
  • Megaverse is like a block

If you can destroy a room, you can move to the next room and destroy it and then move to the next room until you destroy it and then continue on until the whole house gets destroyed. Once the house is destroyed, move onto the next house and destroy its rooms until that house is destroyed until you covered the whole block.

Get it??????

Megaverse is not really a used or accepted term around here, or anywhere else I've been. I think the term that you may be looking for is actually "omniverse" - which is used and understood by most people.

#16 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

@greenteaforme said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

  • Universe is like a room
  • Multiverse is like a house
  • Megaverse is like a block

If you can destroy a room, you can move to the next room and destroy it and then move to the next room until you destroy it and then continue on until the whole house gets destroyed. Once the house is destroyed, move onto the next house and destroy its rooms until that house is destroyed until you covered the whole block.

Get it??????

Megaverse is not really a used or accepted term around here, or anywhere else I've been. I think the term that you may be looking for is actually "omniverse" - which is used and understood by most people.

You must be talking to @a88378438: , because I was replying to him.

The Megaverse as I've mentioned is, the "block" of a city street.

Omniverse would stand even beyond that. Like:

  • Universe is like a room
  • Multiverse is like a house
  • Megaverse is like a city block
  • Omniverse is Earth and beyond

I describe the omniverse in a lot of my threads talking about Extra-Dimensions.

#17 Posted by greenteaforme (1826 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@greenteaforme said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

  • Universe is like a room
  • Multiverse is like a house
  • Megaverse is like a block

If you can destroy a room, you can move to the next room and destroy it and then move to the next room until you destroy it and then continue on until the whole house gets destroyed. Once the house is destroyed, move onto the next house and destroy its rooms until that house is destroyed until you covered the whole block.

Get it??????

Megaverse is not really a used or accepted term around here, or anywhere else I've been. I think the term that you may be looking for is actually "omniverse" - which is used and understood by most people.

You must be talking to @a88378438: , because I was replying to him.

The Megaverse as I've mentioned is, the "block" of a city street.

Omniverse would stand even beyond that. Like:

  • Universe is like a room
  • Multiverse is like a house
  • Megaverse is like a city block
  • Omniverse is Earth and beyond

I describe the omniverse in a lot of my threads talking about Extra-Dimensions.

Megaverse isn't generally a used or accepted term. You'll notice it has basically nothing related to it in the manner than you're referring to, but omniverse has its own wikipedia page. You should probably not use it, since it's non-standard, and most people won't understand where it's meant to fit in.

#18 Posted by a88378438 (3420 posts) - - Show Bio

nothing omniverse>Megaverse

#19 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

@greenteaforme said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@greenteaforme said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

  • Universe is like a room
  • Multiverse is like a house
  • Megaverse is like a block

If you can destroy a room, you can move to the next room and destroy it and then move to the next room until you destroy it and then continue on until the whole house gets destroyed. Once the house is destroyed, move onto the next house and destroy its rooms until that house is destroyed until you covered the whole block.

Get it??????

Megaverse is not really a used or accepted term around here, or anywhere else I've been. I think the term that you may be looking for is actually "omniverse" - which is used and understood by most people.

You must be talking to @a88378438: , because I was replying to him.

The Megaverse as I've mentioned is, the "block" of a city street.

Omniverse would stand even beyond that. Like:

  • Universe is like a room
  • Multiverse is like a house
  • Megaverse is like a city block
  • Omniverse is Earth and beyond

I describe the omniverse in a lot of my threads talking about Extra-Dimensions.

Megaverse isn't generally a used or accepted term. You'll notice it has basically nothing related to it in the manner than you're referring to, but omniverse has its own wikipedia page. You should probably not use it, since it's non-standard, and most people won't understand where it's meant to fit in.

Like I said. Explain that to him since he brought it up 3 times.

@a88378438 said:

Multiverse < megaverse

@a88378438 said:

Multiverse < megaverse

@a88378438 said:

megaverse
#20 Posted by a88378438 (3420 posts) - - Show Bio

Universe is like a room Multiverse is like a house Megaverse is like a city block Omniverse is Earth and beyond good point,you are 100%right

#21 Posted by a88378438 (3420 posts) - - Show Bio

stan lee>The Fulcrum=omnipotents>omniverse=beyonder>Megaverse>Multiverse>Universe

#22 Posted by greenteaforme (1826 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@greenteaforme said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@greenteaforme said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

  • Universe is like a room
  • Multiverse is like a house
  • Megaverse is like a block

If you can destroy a room, you can move to the next room and destroy it and then move to the next room until you destroy it and then continue on until the whole house gets destroyed. Once the house is destroyed, move onto the next house and destroy its rooms until that house is destroyed until you covered the whole block.

Get it??????

Megaverse is not really a used or accepted term around here, or anywhere else I've been. I think the term that you may be looking for is actually "omniverse" - which is used and understood by most people.

You must be talking to @a88378438: , because I was replying to him.

The Megaverse as I've mentioned is, the "block" of a city street.

Omniverse would stand even beyond that. Like:

  • Universe is like a room
  • Multiverse is like a house
  • Megaverse is like a city block
  • Omniverse is Earth and beyond

I describe the omniverse in a lot of my threads talking about Extra-Dimensions.

Megaverse isn't generally a used or accepted term. You'll notice it has basically nothing related to it in the manner than you're referring to, but omniverse has its own wikipedia page. You should probably not use it, since it's non-standard, and most people won't understand where it's meant to fit in.

Like I said. Explain that to him since he brought it up 3 times.

@a88378438 said:

Multiverse < megaverse

@a88378438 said:

Multiverse < megaverse

@a88378438 said:

megaverse

Ah, I didn't see that part.

Hey, a-9-4083850-9-2940-32, "megaverse" isn't a thing. The term you're probably looking for is omniverse.

#23 Posted by Strider92 (16727 posts) - - Show Bio

PR Beyonder shouldn't really have much trouble here.

#24 Posted by Hemlin (377 posts) - - Show Bio

@a88378438: @a88378438: You just said that Beyonder=Omniverse, do you mean that he can destroy the Omniverse or that he IS the omniverse??? neither of them seem possible to me.

#25 Posted by Bo88gdan (4414 posts) - - Show Bio

Beyonder stomps

#26 Posted by WaveMotionCannon (5530 posts) - - Show Bio
@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning

@a88378438 said:

why you do this,beyonder easily wins

DC Multiverse....

R.I.P

Theme song as multiverse and all characters including all realities of Superman and his clones disappear...

Lol. Qft
#27 Posted by a88378438 (3420 posts) - - Show Bio

beyonder can destroy the Omniverse

#28 Posted by Killemall (18635 posts) - - Show Bio

@greenteaforme said:

Megaverse isn't generally a used or accepted term. You'll notice it has basically nothing related to it in the manner than you're referring to, but omniverse has its own wikipedia page. You should probably not use it, since it's non-standard, and most people won't understand where it's meant to fit in.

Bio list megaverse sometime multiverse, its the same thing people just used Megaverse more often. There is no difference between multiverse and megaverse though

#29 Posted by drgnx (3565 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strider92 said:

PR Beyonder shouldn't really have much trouble here.

#30 Posted by Killemall (18635 posts) - - Show Bio

@a88378438 said:

beyonder can destroy the Omniverse

Erm probably no. Omniverse includes everything, beyonder was a megaverse (or an extra dimension within the omniverse). And contrary to what 7am is been saying Megaverse and Multiverse is the same thing.

Marvel multiverse - all different realities within marvel - together called Megaverse which is controlled by LT. There are other realm and stuffs outside megaverse, such as the realm of Visanti, Cyttorak etc etc etc. One of which was the realm of Beyonder which was many many times biggers than marvel megaverse.

#31 Posted by greenteaforme (1826 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@greenteaforme said:

Megaverse isn't generally a used or accepted term. You'll notice it has basically nothing related to it in the manner than you're referring to, but omniverse has its own wikipedia page. You should probably not use it, since it's non-standard, and most people won't understand where it's meant to fit in.

Bio list megaverse sometime multiverse, its the same thing people just used Megaverse more often. There is no difference between multiverse and megaverse though

I've never heard it before. I think multiverse is much more common.

#32 Posted by Killemall (18635 posts) - - Show Bio

@greenteaforme said:

I've never heard it before. I think multiverse is much more common.

It indeed is more common, i was just point out that the explanation you were is incorrect. Megaverse isnt > Multiverse, its just that same thing.

#33 Posted by greenteaforme (1826 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@greenteaforme said:

I've never heard it before. I think multiverse is much more common.

It indeed is more common, i was just point out that the explanation you were is incorrect. Megaverse isnt > Multiverse, its just that same thing.

I didn't say that! haha That was another user.

#34 Posted by Killemall (18635 posts) - - Show Bio

@greenteaforme said:

@Killemall said:

@greenteaforme said:

I've never heard it before. I think multiverse is much more common.

It indeed is more common, i was just point out that the explanation you were is incorrect. Megaverse isnt > Multiverse, its just that same thing.

I didn't say that! haha That was another user.

Yeah i seemed to have missed a word, i was trying to say "the explanation given to you was incorrect".

#35 Posted by a88378438 (3420 posts) - - Show Bio

i don't think so,the beyonder was omniverse level,he not just megaverse

#36 Posted by a88378438 (3420 posts) - - Show Bio

i say once LT hold a megaverse beyonder>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LT he should be omniverse

#37 Posted by guttridgeb (4832 posts) - - Show Bio

Beyonder easily

#38 Posted by Killemall (18635 posts) - - Show Bio

@a88378438 said:

i don't think so,the beyonder was omniverse level,he not just megaverse

Anything to support that?

@a88378438 said:

i say once LT hold a megaverse beyonder>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LT he should be omniverse

LT is the most powerful being on the marvel megaverse (or multiverse whatever you prefer, NOT including OAA and Fulcrum who hasnt done jack) and has had problems with single beings who come from beyond multiverse (megaverse). Example: Beyonder, Protege etc.

#39 Posted by Killemall (18635 posts) - - Show Bio

@guttridgeb said:

Beyonder easily

#40 Edited by Hemlin (377 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall: @a88378438: I don't think anyone in Marvel or DC has destroyed the omniverse, except for probably whoever caused the Chaos Wave

#41 Edited by Hemlin (377 posts) - - Show Bio

@a88378438: Whether or Beyonder could really destroy an omniverse really depends on how you interpret what's been said in his stories, now example have a read of this. It's directly mentioned that the massive explosion/blast he's projecting is destroying everything in it's path and reached the ends of infinity; he may have obliterated billions of universes, multiverses and could be but unlikely the omniverse....really depends on how you quantify that blast/explosion and how much is infinity exactly.

#42 Posted by justleader (1708 posts) - - Show Bio

@Hemlin said:

@a88378438: Whether or Beyonder could really destroy an omniverse really depends on how you interpret what's been said in his stories, now example have a read of this. It's directly mentioned that the massive explosion/blast he's projecting is destroying everything in it's path and reached the ends of infinity; he may have obliterated billions of universes, multiverses could be but unlikely the omniverse....really depends on how you quantify that blast/explosion

It's impossible for any fictional character to affect the omniverse since the omniverse includes every other fiction, our world and every other possible and concievable world. But beyonder's realm is stated to be zillions of times bigger than the multiverse which makes it a megaverse sized realm, and even outside his realm he was the sum of everything (except the marvel multiverse) so the beyonder is definitely not omniversal (no fictional character is) but he is definitely far more than multiversal or even megaversal perhaps.

#43 Posted by Killemall (18635 posts) - - Show Bio

@Hemlin said:

@Killemall: @a88378438: I don't think anyone in Marvel or DC has destroyed the omniverse, except for probably whoever caused the Chaos Wave

Well Omniverse is everything, so of course no one has. the only question is can anyone, i could buy people saying Presence or TOAA could, but anyone less than that is arguable.

Chaos Wave? If its Marvel you are probably referring to Chaos King who doesnt even have to put him above LT , let alone in an omniversal level. He was also recently rectonned as being an aspect of Oblivion.

#44 Posted by justleader (1708 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@Hemlin said:

@Killemall: @a88378438: I don't think anyone in Marvel or DC has destroyed the omniverse, except for probably whoever caused the Chaos Wave

Well Omniverse is everything, so of course no one has. the only question is can anyone, i could buy people saying Presence or TOAA could, but anyone less than that is arguable.

Chaos Wave? If its Marvel you are probably referring to Chaos King who doesnt even have to put him above LT , let alone in an omniversal level. He was also recently rectonned as being an aspect of Oblivion.

No, the chaos wave was accidently created by the scarlet witch and there's a scan that says the chaos wave destroyed and recreated the omniverse, but then again it didn't affect any other fiction or our world, so it should be considered as the marvel omniverse (which is multiple megaverses)

#45 Posted by RedheadedAtrocitus (6885 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah much as I want to say otherwise, PR Beyonder has this...most powerful creator ever envisioned in comics other than TOAA.

#46 Posted by a88378438 (3420 posts) - - Show Bio

Beyonder directly from the MARVEL comics claimed main world outside; the MARVEL comic master world beyond all the representatives; the MARVEL comic master world beyond all set specific phenomena; the entire Megaverse in his eyes than a drop in the ocean but also small if i'm wrong

#47 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

PRB.

#48 Posted by Hemlin (377 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall: TOAA and Presence aren't Omniversal either, that's what I think.

#49 Posted by Hemlin (377 posts) - - Show Bio

@justleader: @justleader said:

@Hemlin said:

@a88378438: Whether or Beyonder could really destroy an omniverse really depends on how you interpret what's been said in his stories, now example have a read of this. It's directly mentioned that the massive explosion/blast he's projecting is destroying everything in it's path and reached the ends of infinity; he may have obliterated billions of universes, multiverses could be but unlikely the omniverse....really depends on how you quantify that blast/explosion

It's impossible for any fictional character to affect the omniverse since the omniverse includes every other fiction, our world and every other possible and concievable world. But beyonder's realm is stated to be zillions of times bigger than the multiverse which makes it a megaverse sized realm, and even outside his realm he was the sum of everything (except the marvel multiverse) so the beyonder is definitely not omniversal (no fictional character is) but he is definitely far more than multiversal or even megaversal perhaps.

Right, I'd believe that Beyonder was in that scan was pulverizing billions, trillions or centillions of multiverses (or whatever amount that is supposed to be equal to infinity) but for the same reason I'd believe that he isn't affecting the omniverse in any way. I say that Beyonder may have killed more people than anyone else in Marvel or DC with that blast that supposedly reached the end of infinity, but he's not that overpowered to be able to obliterate the entire omniverse as said by a88378438.

#50 Posted by a88378438 (3420 posts) - - Show Bio

i belive beyonder can destroy omniverse toaa>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>omniverse