Pre-Recton Beyonder vs Nyarthathotep (Demonbane)

The thread no-one else dares to make but someone has to...

Beyonder stomps. A side effect of the Beyonder thinking destroys dimensions.

@eternityx: Nya can create entire multiverses in mere test tubes

stalemate

@kingofash:

What does that even mean? Does it mean the Multiverses are extremely small? Or what?

Also Beyonder has effortlessly tanked an attack capable of destroying billions of dimensions, by thinking he himself has destroyed dimensions, he killed Death and brought her back, he was stated to be millions of times more powerful than the entire Marvel Multiverse combined (including LT who can hold Megaverses in his hand and destroy them easily and he alone could probably beat Demonbane)

I don't know how creating stuff relates to offensive output... That being said, Beyonder was destroying multiverses just by being angry without trying.

I thought that too but read this http://mangafox.wikia.com/wiki/Nyarlathotep_(Demonbane) Nyarlathotep is basically the agender version of beyonder

This is a stalemate.

If you don't know who manga characters are thats fine: but please do not assume comics are the only ones with nigh-omnipotent or fully omnipotent characters.

This isn't a stalemate at all. Beyonder clearly stomps..

You've all ready proven time and time again you don't know anything about Manga characters.

So your opinion is completely invalid as far as I'm concerned.

You've already proven time and again that you don't know anything about the comic characters that would clearly stomp the manga chars. you overrate so much. You're argument is invalid until you provide a single feat that puts Nyarthathotep on the same level or above PR Beyonder. Good luck trying to find something that doesn't exist..

I actually know exactly who Beyonder is. Because its possible that you can actually know things about both genres!

GASP!!!!

But you're also the guy who opened his mouth when Dark Schneider was tearing through the boards. I gave you proof of DS destroying characters like Hulk, Superman and whatnot and then what happened? You ignored it because of some bias you have.

So of course you're not going to change your mind. And I don't care enough to change it.

Beyonder.

If Demonbane can beat this version of Nyarlathotep then so can beyonder.

Also would you say that both the original version of Nyarlathotep and the Demonbane version of Nyarlathoteo are equals?

EDIT: Now before people read this post I just want to say that Beyonder would stomp Demonbane, (Though I do think he would beat Demonbane but that's not go there) but I do think Demonbane would be a better oppomnet for Beyonder then Nyarlathotep and I also apologize if this was a poor argument.

It was a normal sized, infinite multiverse, and she's made plenty of them. She's also destroyed said multiverses as a side result of her fights.

...oooh snap.

I'm so confused right now.... I came into this thread expecting a cosmic abomination only to see some chick in it's place. Someone explain lol

clear?

@the_legendary_supersaiyan_hulk: Don't question, just tits.

@princearagorn1 said:

@the_legendary_supersaiyan_hulk said:

I'm so confused right now.... I came into this thread expecting a cosmic abomination only to see some chick in it's place. Someone explain lol

clear?

This.

Though honestly Nyarthathotep isn't even the most powerful H.P. Lovecraft being; Azathoth is (Yog-Sothoth is also more powerful then Nyarthathotep).

And I know this is the Demonbane version were using but still Azathoth is also above Nyarthathotep in Demonbane as well.

Dont get me wrong, i am not really disagreeing with you but that is a very bad measuring stick to determine how powerful a character really is.

One has to understand, as far as the lovecraft multiverse goes Demobane, at least in his elder god form, was created to be able to defeat supposedly all powerful beings. Thats pretty much what it was created to do. Its more or less a concept parallel to suggesting abstracts in marvel actuality aren't really as powerful because Infinity Gauntlet easily defeated them. Point is Infinity Gauntlet was created to be able to do something like that therefore losing against IG should be held against anyone, the same is true for losing against Demobane.

Also i am not entire sure where you are getting Demobane could beat Nyarlathotep, not that i disagree Demobane could win , thats what he was created to do, but i am surprised because the way you mention it, you seem to be referring to something that actually happened on panel, when i am pretty certain they have never fought.

People on comicvine go by feats and by feats neither her nor Demobane, even as Elder God have feats to match Beyonder's so assuming Beyonder wins seem like a fair assessment, i just think saying A loses to Demobane, therefore the said character must lose to Beyonder seem a bit faulty.

@i_am_warlock: Didn't Demonbane stomp Nyarlathotep over 400 million times just by staring that him/her?

Now keep in him I never said Demonbane was weak nor overrated but I'm just saying.

Certain not that i recall, did you know when was this stated? In fact i dont even recall the 2 of them meeting. But him being able to stop Nyarlathotep isnt hard to determine, the character is just created to be able to defeat everyone.

I never said anything in regards to you over or under-rating Demobane's final form, but rather Demobane is a very bad yardstick to measure because thats what Demobane does, defeat and humble gods. Its what the final form was created to be.

Logic?

Well I haven't actually seen the scan with Demonbane stomp Nyarlathotep over 400 million times just by staring that him/her, but I have seen the clip at the end of the final episode of the anime with Demonbane beating Nyarlathotep.

But you are right about Elder God Demonbane being created just to be all powerful, Pre-Retcon Beyonder is kind of the same he was created to be TOAA of another multiverse outside of the Marvel omniverse and he came to the 616 universe to learn about the omniverse and the only reason he lost of because he was turning himself into human and Molecule Man destroyed the machine that was turning him into human while he was inside it.

I don't really like getting involved in these discussions so I will stop here.

neither Nyarthathotep, nor Demonbane have shown feats of the same caliber of Beyonder's.

at best cases, Nyarthathotep can be at the same level of Living Tribunal, since both manipulated megaverses like they are nothing. and Beyonder fearks the s**t out of Living Tribunal, Beyonder is millions of times more powerful than all beings in Marvel existence combined, uncluding Living Tribunal.

Stalemate or Beyonder.

The manga character wins after playing along with beyonders scheme for a bit then eradicates him besides classic LT was a joke and on par with infinity

Beyonder curbstomps.....why is this a match??

Beyonder should win in a tougher one than death.

Classic LT was judge of the multiverse (same position he is in today), let alone the fact that the LT of yesterday is the same exact one that exists today.

@mikep12: Not really.....

Mismatch Nya uber curb stomps.

Beyonder. He was angry and destroyed the multiverse and the whole Celestials were his ragdolls

Beyonder posses better omnipotence feats. nyarthathotep cannot win.

Beyonder.

PR Beyonder.

Celestials were his ragdolls? Oh please. Demonbane bitch slapped the entire Cthulu pantheon.

Destroyed the multiverse? Oh wow! I'm so hugely impressed! Except Nya casually destroyed and recreated an infinite multiverse every instant with the Klein Bottle.

Plus she also created the Super Super Space Time and Super Super Dimension, which viewed the entire infinite multiverse as a mere loop.

The Super Super Space Time was a couple levels of infinity above the regular multiverse, yet Mars Demonbane and Liber Legis had the dimension at their knees.

Yet what did she do? She reset the entire Klein Bottle and all infinite eternities.

That's right, even two beings that were beyond time and space were completely powerless to stop the reset.

Cleavage gives her the clear win.

@pern: Let's see. Beyonder killed Death itself. The whole Marvel multiverse was a drop of water in an ocean to him. In a fit of rage he destroyed the multiverse. Took a blast that could've destroyed several billion dimensions. Beat the sh*t out of the Celestials "throwing billions of punches in a second" Thinks too hard and galaxies implode. Galactus was a bug to him. Beyonder and MM's fight could be felt throughout dimensions and universes

Lol these characters are getting out of hand. "This guy has the power to create an entire multiverse just by blinking".

@trionace: *YAWN* Mars Demonbane was so large that it destroyed multiverses just by existing in them. Base Demonbane and Liber Legis destroyed and recreated the multiverse infinite times over every instant in their fight. Demonbane sealed most of the Court of Azathoth with one fell swoop of its Shining Trapezohedron. Beyonder destroyed a billion dimensions? Nya destroyed and recreated an infinite amount. Galactus was a bug to Beyonder? Galactus wouldn't even be a germ to Nya.

Actually, LT was said to be less than a microbe to the Beyonder.

@kaioblitz4: Nya has better feats than LT and Beyonder

@pern: When you have the whole cosmic pantheon begging scared of you and having a fight that could be felt throughout all of existence and killing Death itself, you might wanna stay out of Beyonder's way. LT who held not 1 but 2 megaverses in his hand was nothing but dirt to Beyonder. The whole Marvel multiverse was insignificant to him and he has destroyed it on A whim.

@pern: Also if we are going by the whole destroying multiverse by being in them then Abraxas should be more powerful because he was destroying multiverses with his mere presence