Pre- new 52 Martian Manhunter vs. New 52 Justice League.

New 52 versions of Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, The Flash (Barry), Green Lantern (Hal), Aquaman, and Cyborg vs. Martian Manhunter. If Martian Manhunter is to much turn him into the new 52 version.

Maybe MM.

MM is the strongest in JL

@inchiso said:

MM is the strongest in JL

he is if 1 on 1 but I dont think he can take on the whole team

MM

I'm not sure what any of the other members of the JL can do against a mindrape, in which case MM wins.

MM goes invisible/intangible an use's TP to destroy their minds. MM ftw

@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub: He couldn't do that to Flash quickly enough

@Marco_Kidd new 52 Flash isn't anywhere near as powerful as his pre flashpoint self, there is nothing Flash could do to stop MM from going intangible an using his TP.

@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub said:

MM goes invisible/intangible an use's TP to destroy their minds. MM ftw

What I was thinking too.

Martian Manhunter WRECKS all of them mentally.

@Jayfournines: Maybe>

He could wreck superman,wonder woman,cyborg,aquaman and batman with his mental powers but not the flash. MM has even said in Blackest night that when the Flash scrambles his thoughts or thinks really fast it stops MM from entering his mind. with MM unable to hurt him mentally the Flash picks him apart.

@ScottishWarlord: This is new 52 + they have GL (Hal)

OK Martian Manhunter doesn't get mind abilities.

flash is the only problem if MM is going all out mentally and physically. i see MM winning though.

@Clark_EL said:

OK Martian Manhunter doesn't get mind abilities.

JL wins then.

He's already taken them on in the new 53 and managed to escape so that has to count for something seeing as his Pre-52 self is as of yet seen as more powerful. @ScottishWarlord: Martian Manhunter also caused Flash to beat up Green Lantern.

@tomlikesfries:Ehy?Why?

@dondave: New 52, and I thought they beat him

@Clark_EL: thought who beat him

@inchisosaid:

MM is the strongest in JL

People would say Wally West is superior.

@Clark_EL: To be honest, it's a far more interesting battle with MM's telepathy. I am not so sure of J'onn's strength level, but I assume it can't be much higher than Superman's. Kal has lifted the Earth's exact weight for 5 days in a row. So, out of pure strength, Superman vs MM would be an interesting fight, but adding the rest of the JL is just too must, as you haven taken off J'onn's telepathy. However, it is not a stomp either, as MM still has his intangibility, etc.

Considering that New-52 Martian Manhunter was trouble for the New-52 Justice League..........

Pre-52 Martian Manhunter should be able to take them down.

@INLIFE: Don't know. Actually know telepathy.

JL via BFR

Flash runs to a store takes a box of matches and lights MM on fire.

I could understand the intangibility thing

But the telepathy thing just wouldn't work... How could J'onn mentally subdue them all at the same time? When having Superman, Wonder Woman, and Flash all coming at him at the same time equal or faster than him... that's just not going to work. they're going to take him out before that happens

@jeanroygrant said:

@inchisosaid:

MM is the strongest in JL

People would say Wally West is superior.

Superman is the strongest.

Flash is the fastest.

Martian Manhunter is the most powerful.

@GunGunW: Sounds right to me.

MMH ftw

@dondave: Why?

@Clark_EL: He can easily drop any player on their team and flash if he's fast enough with TP

Pre New 52, MM slaughters the League. New 52 he seemed to be able to hold his own and had the TP feats to show he could beat Superman like Captain Comet was able to. He might be able to do it but it'd be a strech with Wonder Woman, Flash and Green Lantern as well.

@Lvenger: @dondave: I guess but new 52 Superman has pretty amazing feats I guess it doesn't matter with intangibility and mind abilities. Isn't new 52 superman supposed to be more powerful than pre? What if the JL has prep, who would win then?

@Clark_EL: The only good thing I've seen from new 52 Supes is that 5 days earth lifting feat nad fighting Helspont

@Clark_EL: Only in terms of strength. Speed wise he's still the same (travelling from Pluto to Earth in a matter of minutes) and no big durability feats aside from shrugging off 10 gigawatts in AC 14. Plus he's shown to be susceptible to mental manipulation and MM can beat him in the same way Comet did. With prep it may be fairer but MM is hard to prepare for.

JLA stomps.

Manhunter can beat anyone 1 vs 1 though.

@Stronger: They tried it with new-52 MMH, didn't work

You have scans of new 52 MM beating the whole JLA?

@Stronger: In Justice League #7 their's a fight scene with MMh vs Justice League, it doesn't show a clear winner but indic\ate that it was MMH

@dondave: It's JL #8

@dondave said:

@Stronger: In Justice League #7 their's a fight scene with MMh vs Justice League, it doesn't show a clear winner but indic\ate that it was MMH

Did they fight all out? No they held back because they didn't want to kill MMh, Sups could kill him easily with heat vision. The only chance Mm has is via Mindrape, however show me scan of him mindraping multiple opponents at same time.

@dondave said:

@Stronger: In Justice League #7 their's a fight scene with MMh vs Justice League, it doesn't show a clear winner but indic\ate that it was MMH

What you say might be far from what really happened so I need to check it.

@Stronger: It's JL #8

Physically new 52 superman can overpower the old 'new earth' MM but MM has the sheer versatility and overall power so he beats them.

New 52 MM i don't know much about.

@ComocYahweh said:

@dondave said:

@Stronger: In Justice League #7 their's a fight scene with MMh vs Justice League, it doesn't show a clear winner but indic\ate that it was MMH

Did they fight all out? No they held back because they didn't want to kill MMh, Sups could kill him easily with heat vision. The only chance Mm has is via Mindrape, however show me scan of him mindraping multiple opponents at same time.

doesn't new 52 MM still have regeneration/shapeshifting as well as intangibility? if so, heat vision won't do superman much.

@ComocYahweh said:

@dondave said:

@Stronger: In Justice League #7 their's a fight scene with MMh vs Justice League, it doesn't show a clear winner but indic\ate that it was MMH

Did they fight all out? No they held back because they didn't want to kill MMh, Sups could kill him easily with heat vision. The only chance Mm has is via Mindrape, however show me scan of him mindraping multiple opponents at same time.

Nonsense. Superman does not have a single heat-vision feat that suggests he could "kill him easily with heat vision", nor has Martian Manhunter even shown any signs of having his old fire weakness in the DCnU. Prove that the JLA held back. I can prove that at least one member, Wonder Woman, did not hold back seeing as she was using her sword in that fight and she herself has said that she uses her sword only in the most serious of circumstances. As for him affecting multiple people with telepathy, he's read the minds of the League while they were on the Moon:

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And erased the memories of nine Green Lanterns at once after connecting their minds to share information..

Gallery

Honestly, Superman is pretty much the only member of the League who can even hurt J'onn. The rest simply don't have the feats to say they could, given that an angry Apollo punched MMH right in the face and nothing happened. Unless we're using Hal's pre-FP feats as well.

@Clark_EL: My bad, typo

@dondave: It's all good I just wanted people to not call you a liar or something. :D

@Clark_EL: Thanks