#1 Edited by RidTom (214 posts) - - Show Bio

V.S.

Rules:

  1. Battle takes place on an uninhabited Island
  2. All in character
  3. Ace knows of the teams powers but the team does not know of Ace's
#2 Edited by drkcloud (328 posts) - - Show Bio

The human torch is actually much hotter in terms of powers, given that he's not intangible like Ace,he still can't be hurt by Ace.

heat wise, Human torch can reach supernova temperatures. Not to mention he's actually thermal-proof so Ace can't hurt him(the only exception is if the temperature is hotter than the human torch which can run up to 20 million degrees+ very much beyond ace by roughly 19million+ degrees. truthfully the numbers arbitrarily written on my part but in any incarnation the human torch has been vastly shown to be much hotter than ACE). if anything its the other way around given that at a high enough temperature you can "burn" ace(I.e. via the heat from Akainu's magma fruit).

Human torch solos.

now do an electro vs enel one =) (Enel probably wins that one though)

#3 Posted by Simon_the_digger (2973 posts) - - Show Bio

Ace probably loses here...

#4 Posted by dondave (37432 posts) - - Show Bio

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#5 Edited by tshock (158 posts) - - Show Bio

@drkcloud: I don't think that's how it works because if what you said is true, then Luffy would have melted from Enel's attacks (Rubber can only take so much electricity, let alone lightning). I think that due to the Devil Fruits mystical nature, some Fruits were created to oppose others, i.e. Ace = Aokiji but Ace < Aikainu

Edit: Also Human Torch would not use the Super Nova because it can harm the planet, and it states that is morals on.

#6 Posted by uberhikari (2474 posts) - - Show Bio

Electro is useless here and Ace vs Human torch = stalemate.

#7 Edited by BlackWind (6344 posts) - - Show Bio

<p>People weaker than Ace have survived Enel's lightning, and his casual ones are in the million volt range. I see no reason why he will do significant hard to Ace, or even touch an airborne Human Torch. And is there any reason why Ace can't just ounch Johnny out?</p>

#8 Edited by frogdog (3248 posts) - - Show Bio

Current Electro has anti-matter infused with his lightning, and had a decent fight with thor.

@blackwind said:

<p>People weaker than Ace have survived Enel's lightning, and his casual ones are in the million volt range. I see no reason why he will do significant hard to Ace, or even touch an airborne Human Torch. And is there any reason why Ace can't just ounch Johnny out?</p>

Same reason why he couldn't punch out akainu.

#9 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (17376 posts) - - Show Bio

@frogdog said:

And is there any reason why Ace can't just ounch Johnny out?</p>

Same reason why he couldn't punch out akainu.

akainu is a logia. Johny isn't. He can still be punched.

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#10 Posted by frogdog (3248 posts) - - Show Bio

@frogdog said:

And is there any reason why Ace can't just ounch Johnny out?</p>

Same reason why he couldn't punch out akainu.

akainu is a logia. Johny isn't. He can still be punched.

Akainu being a logia is irrelevant, Ace can't harm someone that burns hotter temperatures than himself.

#11 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (17376 posts) - - Show Bio

@frogdog said:

@princearagorn1 said:

@frogdog said:

And is there any reason why Ace can't just ounch Johnny out?</p>

Same reason why he couldn't punch out akainu.

akainu is a logia. Johny isn't. He can still be punched.

Akainu being a logia is irrelevant, Ace can't harm someone that burns hotter temperatures than himself.

I was referring to his intangibility/reformation ability.

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#12 Posted by xlab3000 (3280 posts) - - Show Bio

Johnny and Electro wins