POLLING TIME: What is a good match for a Batman with prep?

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Poll POLLING TIME: What is a good match for a Batman with prep? (86 votes)

Still can get stomped by some characters below Level 1 classification 34%
Any character below Level 1 classification 20%
Level 1: Spawn (Image Comics) 14%
Level 2: Odin (Marvel Comics) 2%
Level 3: Galactus (Marvel Comics) 5%
Batman with prep is above Level 3 classification 26%

FIRST LET ME EXPLAIN.

See the poll options? In context...

Level 1 classification refers to planetary-level characters like empowered Ghost Rider, Spawn, New 52 Superman, Thor, Silver Surfer, and the like.

Level 2 classification refers to "skyfather-like" characters who can affect things or events on a galaxy scale, such as Odin, Zeus, Mephisto, Darkseid, and the like.

Level 3 classification refers to characters who can perform almost everything characters belonged to level 2 classification can generally do, except that Level 3 class characters do it casually. Meaning their powers span nearly the entire universe. Examples are Galactus, Celestials, Dormmamu, and Superman Prime One Million.

Defining PREP

We are going to assume Post-Crisis Batman, because New 52 Batman is arguably less competent.

Here, preparation time for Batman is defined such that it is reasonable for the purposes of a solo battle/war: Batman is given enough prep-time to work on his plans that is within the lifetime where he can still run about - Meaning, he would have at maximum 20+ years of prep before his body starts going decrepit.

And prep includes Batman relying on his network of business and superhero/supervillain contacts and his genius intellect to build advanced technology, as seen throughout BOTH his Post-Crisis, New 52 versions' history of feats.

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Please explain your choices thank you.

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Superman.

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Bumping this, let's hope this thread be a end-all for all disputes against Batman.

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#4  Edited By EsquireHulk

You're giving him 20 or more years of prep? Yeah he wins everything.

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Wenjun Chew is that you?

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@thebiggestg: barman does for stressing bout somthinv for 20 years.

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Batman beats everything.

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#10  Edited By Comicdude360

@thebiggestg: stressing for 20 years over one thing is unhealthy

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#11  Edited By thebiggestg

@thebiggestg: stressing for 20 years over one thing is unhealthy

He did it against Superman in the Dark Knight Returns didn't he?

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I'd be interested to hear what characters below level one classification could stomp Batman with prep, I really would. More than 7 of you thought so, so speak up.

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a bunch of people thought he would lose to spidey with prep sooooo...

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#16  Edited By thebiggestg

@thebourneposter said:

I'd be interested to hear what characters below level one classification could stomp Batman with prep, I really would. More than 7 of you thought so, so speak up.

Based on that classification, characters below level one would be anyone below Superman level. I would suppose that would be Iron Man and Apocalypse. Many of the forum members are saying that Batman is no match against Iron Man or Apocalypse no matter how much prep (Assuming Iron Man gets similar prep too).

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@thebiggestg: I think Batman could beat either with enough prep. But if Iron Man has prep too that's dicey.

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#18  Edited By thebiggestg

@thebiggestg: I think Batman could beat either with enough prep. But if Iron Man has prep too that's dicey.

I don't know how to respond to this, but many users said that Iron Man is much superior to Batman in terms of engineering marvels in technological equipment, and isn't a complete dumbass that can be outwitted by simple tricks.

Similar for Apocalypse, he is much more intelligent than Batman and his celestial-enhanced powers had no kryptonite factor. Based on these points, users claimed that Batman vs Apocalypse is a stomp.

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@thebiggestg: That is what I'm saying, if Iron Man has prep too I'm not sure, maybe more in favor of Iron Man. Same with Apocalypse.

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No more?

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I´m sorry for being a grammar nazi but...

Shouldn´t be WHO instead of WHAT??

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Unless they have an exploitable weakness like Kryptonite, I'd say high-end mid-tier chatter is about his limit.

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With 20 years of prep, bat can stomp all lvl 1 chars certainly. Dunno abt level 2 unless he finds a weakness in long 20 years. Lvl 3 100% impossible.

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Poll may not work as batman w/without prep is hated by a majority of viners.

And that's the truth, in fact he is the most underestimated and hated char in vine. Second place goes to flash.

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@thebiggestg: this is a little out of order in my opinion. If by spawn you mean regular base spawn he gets beaten by ghost rider. Making him below level 1. If this is god spawn he's well above galactus. Either way he's not a class 1 being.

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#31  Edited By Army2442

It really depends on the level one character and if they have had powers or exploitable weaknesses. I personally think he can beat flash or ghost rider due hax abilities.

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@thebiggestg: this is a little out of order in my opinion. If by spawn you mean regular base spawn he gets beaten by ghost rider. Making him below level 1. If this is god spawn he's well above galactus. Either way he's not a class 1 being.

Level 1 in this thread's definition simply just refers to beings whose power level can affect things on a planet-wide scale.

I thought regular Spawn is on level 1 power? Superman definitely is, and if Spawn is a match for Superman/Ghost Rider, then I feel Spawn can be placed on their level.

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There's no end to these Bat-prep threads . The only way he can beat any of these ppl is if they have some sort of exploitable weakness like most DC characters do . Without those weaknesses he wouldn't beat ppl like Superman . So no matter how much prep you give him he's not beating no one on level 1 . He's most definitely not beating anyone on level 2 or level 3 . Stop the wank

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lol.. how about the poll?

first option and the last option are the ones leading the poll.. XD

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#36  Edited By JuxtMako

"I made a bullet out of a substance everyone already knew you were weak to." Sounds Galactus level to me.

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#37  Edited By Gracetrack

My first inclination was to say Level 1, though after fully reading the OP, I'm inclined to say Level 2. However, the levels seem a bit... off.

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Tough to say...but I'd say he struggles, even with prep, against Level 1 guys. We say Batman with prep time is a match for Superman, but how true is that when Superman doesn't really need to be in the same area from Batman, and a lot of his fights with Superman are based on what Bruce THINKS Superman will do.

I couldn't even begin to think of what kind of Prep he could possibly try coming up with to combat Ghost Rider or Thor. As far as I know, they have no real "Kryptonite," (though my knowledge on Marvel characters isn't that great. I can't imagine Bruce has anything GR couldn't burn through or that a standard-powered Thor couldn't rip apart.

Not to sell Batman short. He's skilled, but he's only human. Even with Prep, I don't know if he should be able to take Superman, Ghost Rider, Spawn, Thor, or Silver Surfer.

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lol seriously? what is batman gonna do to these people?

Warlock, Gamora, Angela, Quasar, Ronan, Thor? they pretty much have no definite weakness.

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My first inclination was to say Level 1, though after fully reading the OP, I'm inclined to say Level 2. However, the levels seem a bit... off.

You think with prep Batman can take ppl like Odin & other Skyfathers?

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@serrure said:

lol seriously? what is batman gonna do to these people?

Warlock, Gamora, Angela, Quasar, Ronan, Thor? they pretty much have no definite weakness.

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#42  Edited By Gracetrack
@uugieboogie said:

You think with prep Batman can take ppl like Odin & other Skyfathers?

Did you read the entire OP? 20 years of prep and any and all connection/resources that he has relied on in the past... I'd say he has a shot.

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@uugieboogie said:

You think with prep Batman can take ppl like Odin & other Skyfathers?

Did you read the entire OP? 20 years of prep and any and all connection/resources that he has relied on in the past... I'd say he has a shot.

I read the OP. What in 20 years could he learn to beat Odin? What connections in his past could help him stand against the likes of Skyfather level beings?

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#44  Edited By Cerberus369616

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#45  Edited By Gracetrack

@uugieboogie said:

I read the OP. What in 20 years could he learn to beat Odin? What connections in his past could help him stand against the likes of Skyfather level beings?

I don't really want to get into a drawn out debate about this. Suffice it to say, if in a fraction of that time Doctor Doom could figure out a way to usurp the powers of beings like Loki and The Beyonder, and do so with far less resources or connections than Batman has here, then yes... I'm pretty confident Batman could come up with the means to defeat Skyfather-level beings. (again, in view of the OP's stipulations)

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@uugieboogie said:

I read the OP. What in 20 years could he learn to beat Odin? What connections in his past could help him stand against the likes of Skyfather level beings?

I don't really want to get into a drawn out debate about this. Suffice it to say, if in a fraction of that time Doctor Doom could figure out a way to usurp the powers of beings like Loki and The Beyonder, and do so with far less resources or connections than Batman has here, then yes... I'm pretty confident Batman could come up with the means to defeat Skyfather-level beings. (again, in view of the OP's stipulations)

  • You think Dr Doom has less resources than Batman?
  • Okay
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#47  Edited By uugieboogie

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Is Batman cool with him shooting people? lol

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@cerberus369616 said:

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Is Batman cool with him shooting people? lol

Apparently? Maybe Jason promised non-lethal shots or something I dunno. Or maybe that is Batman chasing Jason yelling shit like "Stop man, come on, cut it out, you got my symbol on your giving me a bad name"

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#49  Edited By Gracetrack

@uugieboogie said:
  • You think Dr Doom has less resources than Batman?
  • Okay

You think Batman will have less resources over the span of 20 years of prepping and planning than what Dr Doom has standard? Okay.

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#50  Edited By uugieboogie

@uugieboogie said:

@cerberus369616 said:

Jason Oneshots

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Is Batman cool with him shooting people? lol

Apparently? Maybe Jason promised non-lethal shots or something I dunno. Or maybe that is Batman chasing Jason yelling shit like "Stop man, come on, cut it out, you got my symbol on your giving me a bad name"

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