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Surprised nobody mentioned the ghost pokemon. They will cause alot of trouble just by themselves.

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Feats for all these Pokemon claims? Since I really don't see why Yamamoto just doesn't wipe them all out.

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So what is stopping the ss members from a blitz? That's quite in character for them. And for that matter, how are they copying zampaktou (soul cutters along with sword spirit) with cellular control? That's not really possible

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@cjdavis103: Are you calling my comment original or are you referring to a comic or something??

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#55  Edited By ssj_god

@those_eyes said:

Surprised nobody mentioned the ghost pokemon. They will cause alot of trouble just by themselves.

since bleach storyline is actually based on ghosts.. i really don't want to go there... though i don't know anything about bleach.

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@comicvinepoozer1: That is a bit childish if you ask me. Not debating with me because I don't like one of the characters? Well, you have a point, but I'm not the kind of person that bases a victory off of personal opinion on a character, nor will I ever.

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Surprised nobody mentioned the ghost pokemon. They will cause alot of trouble just by themselves.

Because Soul Reapers are spirits so they can damage them physically or just call it Konso GG

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If you judge by Pokedex feats, some pokemno could easily solo.

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#59  Edited By Nyas

@justsomerandomkid said:

Feats for all these Pokemon claims? Since I really don't see why Yamamoto just doesn't wipe them all out.

He will.

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@frocharocha: Everyone here knows that the feats you are talking about are straight up BS

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@nyas: Thats what I was thinking, but since I'm ignorant of of Pokemon i didn't just want to make a statement like that.

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#62  Edited By mysticmedivh

Here come the haters. x20 Yamamoto's > x1 Yamamoto.

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@deathuponall: your first post

Arcuras Is not Gen 1 thus not in this fight

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@cjdavis103: What bout dialga, pallia, rayquaza, gratina, etc?

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#65  Edited By mysticmedivh

@cjdavis103: What bout dialga, pallia, rayquaza, gratina, etc?

Dialga, Palkia, Giratina are Gen IV. Rayquaza is Gen III.

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@colliderz: @ssj_god: im sorry but when have the ghost in bleach been powerful enough to cause you to sleep, have you go mentally insane, or posses your body just by looki.g into your eyes? im not too well versed in bleach either but i dont recall any of the ghost thete being that powerful. just because somone has dealt with ghost before in their universe doesnt mean they can deal with ghost from other universes aswell. Thats like me saying ghost busters could take out all the spirirts in the bleach universe just because they have dealt with ghost and have weapons that can beat ghost. Until somone provss to me ghost in the bleach universe are as powerful as pokemon ghost or bleach characters are immune to supernatural abiliyies and mind attacks from just being looked at then ill shut up about the ghost pokemon. Btw i know aizen is like a spirit and is really powerful but his illusions are not something ghost pokemon arent able to replicate to a degree. Ghost pokemon have made humans lose their senses to the point where they cant feel 10 degree temperature.

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@alakemega123: If you tell us which feats for pokemon are allowed because ill be able to give a concise winner and provide feats.

Personally pokedex feats causes too much controversy here for people so i think either manga or anime should be allowed. Maybe both if you would like.

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Ditto+Muk=Dead everything.

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@those_eyes: I usually allow pokedex feats but this battle is just anime manga and game feats

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Metapod used Harden.

Metapod's defense went up.

Every Bleach character attacks Metapod.

It's not very effective...

Metaphor used Harden.

And the cycle continues until I SHUT MY F***ING GAME OFF IN FRUSTRATION.

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@those_eyes:

your right they don't do that they just kill and or eat your eternal soul just by being near you or breathing in your general direction

just because somone has dealt with ghost before in their universe doesnt mean they can deal with ghost from other universes aswell.

And just because Ghost pokemon can affect non spirtualy aware beings dosent mean they can affect beings whose mere presence could destroy them

hats like me saying ghost busters could take out all the spirirts in the bleach universe just because they have dealt with ghost and have weapons that can beat ghost.

Theoretically they could beat weaker spirits in bleach maybe even a (low tier ) hollow ( note thats only if they are not blown away from a cero or just eaten)

ee. Ghost pokemon have made humans lose their senses to the point where they cant feel 10 degree temperature.

yes Ghosts can trick people who have 0 spirtual power we get it only problem is Humans with suffient will power can get out of their tricks Soul reapers have a crap ton of spiritual power and those with no spiritual power can't even see them even when they are killing them. they have to be handicapped in the battle threads to stop the battle from being soul Crush GG

Show me a ghost Pokemon crushing a soul just with it's presence

@cjdavis103: What bout dialga, pallia, rayquaza, gratina, etc?

How much do you know about Pokemon ( not insulting just asking)

Gen1 or the orginal 151 are only the red and blue seris with the starters charmander squirtal and bulbasaur

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Metapod used Harden.

Metapod's defense went up.

Every Bleach character attacks Metapod.

It's not very effective...

Metaphor used Harden.

And the cycle continues until I SHUT MY F***ING GAME OFF IN FRUSTRATION.

Jmarshmallow

Funny thing is Metapod no sold a city busting hyperbeam in the manga after he used harden to absorb the blow.

Anyways Zapdos has infinite energy as shown in the manga. The bird trio was stated to be able to wipe all life from the planet. Thats why Lance wanted to get their power.

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Metapod used Harden.

Metapod's defense went up.

Every Bleach character attacks Metapod.

It's not very effective...

Metaphor used Harden.

And the cycle continues until I SHUT MY F***ING GAME OFF IN FRUSTRATION.

Jmarshmallow

a run of the mill soul reaper used stab in the eye it's super effective

a Run of the mill soulreaper used a fire based Kido It's super effective

a Run of the mill soul repaer used konsu serperating it's body and soul it's superefective

Seriously even the mook soul reapers can kill a crap lode of Pokemon

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#74  Edited By those_eyes

@cjdavis103: You do know Morty and Agatha the ghost trainers are spiritually aware so much so to the point they displayed some psychic abilities, could summon ghost, and understand them and they still could be effected by ghost. Same with Sabrina who was a psychic.

They haven't crushed someones soul from what i remember but is there much of a difference from crushing someones soul and taking control of it? I know its different but not by much.

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Metapod used Harden.

Metapod's defense went up.

Every Bleach character attacks Metapod.

It's not very effective...

Metaphor used Harden.

And the cycle continues until I SHUT MY F***ING GAME OFF IN FRUSTRATION.

Jmarshmallow

Metapod used Harden.

People notice and get jealous.

Scientists take Metapod to laboratory.

Scientists extract Metapod gene responsible for Harden.

Add it to Viagra.

Make profit. $$$

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#76  Edited By Jmarshmallow

@mysticmedivh: You just took my innocent nostalgic post and turned it into a social commentary about inhumane animal experimentation.

Well done sir!

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@mysticmedivh: For heavens sake, isn't there ONE OP Pokemon in Gen I? Because one is enough... Or am I relying on a little electric rat for this? -_-

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#79  Edited By mysticmedivh

@mysticmedivh: You just took my innocent nostalgic post and turned it into a social commentary about inhumane animal experimentation.

Well done sir!

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#81  Edited By mysticmedivh

@deathuponall said:

@mysticmedivh: For heavens sake, isn't there ONE OP Pokemon in Gen I? Because one is enough... Or am I relying on a little electric rat for this? -_-

Legendary bird trio (Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres), Mewtwo (but OP said he's not in this battle), Mew, Ditto. Then we have Dragonite, Gyarados, Gengar, and Muk to a lesser extent.

@those_eyes I also forgot about Lapras's Perish Song. That would cause serious damage.

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Scathan does not approve of the pokemon haters in this thread.

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#83  Edited By those_eyes

@mysticmedivh said:

@deathuponall said:

@mysticmedivh: For heavens sake, isn't there ONE OP Pokemon in Gen I? Because one is enough... Or am I relying on a little electric rat for this? -_-

Legendary bird trio (Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres), Mewtwo (but OP said he's not in this battle), Mew, Ditto. Then we have Dragonite, Gyarados, Gengar, and Muk to a lesser extent.

@those_eyes I also forgot about Lapras's Perish Song. That would cause serious damage.

All the ghost pokemon can perform curse and destiny bond and have in the anime and manga. The ghost curses instantly paralyze you and eventually kill you. Destiny bond works after the ghost are defeated so there is no way bleach can win without casualties.

Inb4 someone says it wont work on the spiritually aware. It worked on sucine and he was the embodiment of the north wind, had psychic abilities, and whose roar was able to reverse time.

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#84  Edited By Cjdavis103

@cjdavis103: You do know Morty and Agatha the ghost trainers are spiritually aware so much so to the point they displayed some psychic abilities, could summon ghost, and understand them and they still could be effected by ghost. Same with Sabrina who was a psychic.

They haven't crushed someones soul from what i remember but is there much of a difference from crushing someones soul and taking control of it? I know its different but not by much.

The people you mentioned could control ghost types to an extient ... And Chad and orihime have spirtual power that makes them look like Bugs and they in turn are bugs when compared to Captains. I doubt the ghost types are even an issue at all

no they did not posses the soul they controlled the body which is impossible here as no one has a body but even if they do the soul reapers smack the possed guys with the hilts of their swords and out comes the ghosts for some gental stabing purifing their souls and sending them on

@deathuponall said:

@mysticmedivh: For heavens sake, isn't there ONE OP Pokemon in Gen I? Because one is enough... Or am I relying on a little electric rat for this? -_-

Legendary bird trio (Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres), Mewtwo (but OP said he's not in this battle), Mew, Ditto. Then we have Dragonite, Gyarados, Gengar, and Muk to a lesser extent.

@those_eyes I also forgot about Lapras's Perish Song. That would cause serious damage.

the birds are small fry Histugaya could solo them and most pokemon with a full scale

he held back so his allies would not get caught up in this If he uses this in the middle of the pokemon army they will all die

Dragonite Gyarados and muck all die by this as well

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@mysticmedivh said:

@deathuponall said:

@mysticmedivh: For heavens sake, isn't there ONE OP Pokemon in Gen I? Because one is enough... Or am I relying on a little electric rat for this? -_-

Legendary bird trio (Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres), Mewtwo (but OP said he's not in this battle), Mew, Ditto. Then we have Dragonite, Gyarados, Gengar, and Muk to a lesser extent.

@those_eyes I also forgot about Lapras's Perish Song. That would cause serious damage.

All the ghost pokemon can perform curse and destiny bond and have in the anime and manga. The ghost curses instantly paralyze you and eventually kill you. Destiny bond works after the ghost are defeated so there is no way bleach can win without casualties.

Inb4 someone says it wont work on the spiritually aware. It worked on sucine and he was the embodiment of the north wind, had psychic abilities, and whose roar was able to reverse time.

again succaine can't crush peoples souls by standing near them

can curse work on ghosts?

i will have to see Destine bond and will they use it in charicter

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#86  Edited By mysticmedivh

@cjdavis103 Soul Society are small fry. A Rattata should be able to solo them. Most of their powers and abilities shouldn't work against Pokémon. Their feats aren't valid either.

See what I did there?

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I guess jynx's voodoo dolls wouldn't work either on bleach characters cause it wouldn't work on the spiritually aware?

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#88  Edited By mysticmedivh

@those_eyes said:

I guess jynx's voodoo dolls wouldn't work either on bleach characters cause it wouldn't work on the spiritually aware?

I've seen the failed argument "Pokémon shouldn't be able to do this to this character" far too many times. In the end, some just the view Pokémon as a little children's game, and therefore their precious characters they like are far too above Pokémon, so the Pokémon get stomped just because. There was some other thread where someone was claiming Wolverine could defeat Mewtwo. Low-balling at its finest.

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#90  Edited By Cjdavis103

@cjdavis103 Soul Society are small fry. A Rattata should be able to solo them. Most of their powers and abilities shouldn't work against Pokémon. Their feats aren't valid either.

See what I did there?

Nope not really

I have explained with logic why the pokemonn abilitys do not work on them you have yet to explane how they would

I guess jynx's voodoo dolls wouldn't work either on bleach characters cause it wouldn't work on the spiritually aware?

How do they work?

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I guess jynx's voodoo dolls wouldn't work either on bleach characters cause it wouldn't work on the spiritually aware?

I've seen the failed argument "Pokémon shouldn't be able to do this to this character" far too many times. In the end, some just the view Pokémon as a little children's game, and therefore their precious characters they like are far too above Pokémon, so the Pokémon get stomped just because. There was some other thread where someone was claiming Wolverine could defeat Mewtwo. Low-balling at its finest.

I have not low balled anyone here if you look at the lore of the pokemon world pokemon where scared of a human with a sword ( it was a legend in pearl i think)

If we are looking at pure feats there are very few pokemon that can stand up to seated soul reapers the ones that do are an issue but the soul reapers can handle it

anouther aspect we have to llok at is that the soul reapers have Kido and defenses in place around their city that will keep out most pokemon

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#91  Edited By those_eyes

@those_eyes said:

I guess jynx's voodoo dolls wouldn't work either on bleach characters cause it wouldn't work on the spiritually aware?

I've seen the failed argument "Pokémon shouldn't be able to do this to this character" far too many times. In the end, some just the view Pokémon as a little children's game, and therefore their precious characters they like are far too above Pokémon, so the Pokémon get stomped just because. There was some other thread where someone was claiming Wolverine could defeat Mewtwo. Low-balling at its finest.

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@mysticmedivh:

There was some other thread where someone was claiming Wolverine could defeat Mewtwo. Low-balling at its finest.

Wait seriously???

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I see a lot of "because this Pokemon can do this, then they can do this", but I haven't seen a single feat yet. The problem with going by that logic is that they haven't shown feats of using their powers like that at all.

Like I said can someone give me any reason for why Yamamoto wouldn't just burn them all to a crisp with his Shikai?

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@cjdavis103: The ones made of Lava can be handled by Kido or by just being slashed.

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@xlr87t3 said:

Ditto+Muk=Dead everything.

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@mysticmedivh: Mew went toe to toe with Mewtwo. I'm pretty sure him, plus those legendary birds, could make the win.

Is Lugia in though? Because the legendary birds necessary to someone Lugia are here..

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#98  Edited By ssj_god

@mysticmedivh: Mew went toe to toe with Mewtwo. I'm pretty sure him, plus those legendary birds, could make the win.

Is Lugia in though? Because the legendary birds necessary to someone Lugia are here..

no.. lugia in gen 2

but why is people saying mewtwo isn't in this fight?

op said 10 of each 151 gen 1 pokemons except mewtwo.. means there is only 1 mewtwo in this fight, not 10 like other species.. so mewtwo is in this fight.

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@mysticmedivh: Mew went toe to toe with Mewtwo. I'm pretty sure him, plus those legendary birds, could make the win.

Is Lugia in though? Because the legendary birds necessary to someone Lugia are here..

Pretty sure Lugia isnt here. But in the manga all 3 together without Lugia were still a planetary threat.

From the movie alone with the legendary birds Zapdos had mach 25 attack speed and a destructive out put near 1 mile wide. I can provide links to the pokemon calculations.

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#100  Edited By Cjdavis103

@ssj_god:
the OP Never corrected that assumption and read it like mewtwo is not involved

@mysticmedivh: Mew went toe to toe with Mewtwo. I'm pretty sure him, plus those legendary birds, could make the win.

Is Lugia in though? Because the legendary birds necessary to someone Lugia are here..

Not the versions of Mew two that are worth worrying about