Plutonian vs Martian Manhunter

Disclaimer: I don't know if this is a mismatch, i'm just trying to gauge MMH.

Plutonian vs Martian Manhunter

Rules and Setting

- Fight takes place on an indestructible earth

- Both characters are fighting to the best of their abilities; morals off

- New 52 and Pre 52 feats apply

- Random encounter

- No BFR

- Round 1: All powers for MMH; Round 2: No TP

The root power set for both are identical. The only way that this ends in a win for Plutonian is if he can matter manipulate MMH.

Disregard my other post, it was wrong. Plutonian was way stronger than I remembered before when I looked at some scans. He handles MMH fairly well , he could take beings like sentry and superman we could add J'onn to the list

@killemall thoughts? I remember you debunking a lot of Plutonian's feats before so your opinion?

J'onn

The only way J'onn wins is with TP, other than that he gets pounded into oblivion. J'onn has absolutely no way to hurt Plutonian (he's way too durable) and his intangibility can be turned off by Plutonian's psionic powers.

MM..

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/plutonian-respect-thread-1574091/

I only see Martian Manhunter winning with telepathy.

Martian Manhunter wins via TP. Plutonian would win otherwise.

Martian Manhunter if he used his telepathy.

When some aliens kidnapped Tony, they had kidnapped some of the best telepaths and empaths in the multiverse, and Tony was the most powerful they had ever seen, to the point they exhausted almost all of their resources to get rid of him before he woke himself up and killed them all.

TPing Tony won't be as easy as you guys make it seem.

I've heard that the Plutonian is a reality warper, but I'll stay neutral until I get some feats for him.

J'onn.

Check out the respect thread

Plutonian wins, he seems to be far superior in terms of speed.

He has smaller than picosecond reaction time, considering he reacted to a signal and flew from Space to Earth in just 1 picosecond.

Plutonian.

@reaverlation: He certainly doesnt have any defense against TP. Martian could take him in that regards.

I also disagree with the argument in regards to his speed or his ability to negate intangibility.

Probably Plutonian wins

@killemall: I see...

I'd give it to J'onn due to Telepathy in R1

I don't really know where to stand about R2 - I feel like MMH's intangibility gives him the advantage.

@thetruebarryallen:

Plutonian also has intangibility

He only showed it in one panel. Also having intangibility won't be a problem for J'onn. He can harm intangible opponents, the same can't be said for Plutonian.

Bump

the plutonian

Bump

Plutonian, and its not very close iirc