Phoenix Five vs Jean Grey

I'm surprised that no one's made this thread yet. Phoenix Five goes up against its original wilder. Who's going to win?

To give Phoenix Five a fair fight, Jean is neither White Phoenix of the Crown nor has authority to separate PF form the hosts.

Both teams are bloodlusted.

Jean

@YoungJustice: Would you mind to explain?

@spekqj: Jean has more experience with the PF. She also could mindr*pe 4 of them................

Jean for a hella reasons, as the prime host she can easily rip the force from them...(which she has done in the past against Emma)

He did state that no ripping the force from them is allowed.

But yes, Jean, she has way more experience than they do at using and controlling the Phoenix Force.

jean. she may not be permited to rip the PF from them, but she can turn them to drooling idiots. and then piece by piece the PF comes to her. the fact that 4/5 of them have PF is retarded to being with.

The force will see Jean as a more powerful user and leave the five...

@YoungJustice said:

Jean

P5

@fanofsuperheroes said:

But yes, Jean, she has way more experience than they do at using and controlling the Phoenix Force.

jean takes this. 

Stale mate; the phoenix 5 is basically jean in little bites packaging

@Agent9149 said:

Stale mate; the phoenix 5 is basically jean in little bites packaging

Jean IS Phoenix.....they are using HER powers.

She knocks them out by exploiting their beyond obvious weaknesses to physical KO's against their fellow members

Jean and the Phoenix were explain to be the same entity before, and Jean is not simply the most compatible host, but the actual "host". If that makes sense.

Jean with the PF is just too much for these guys. Especially since I'm actually going to call Namor a jobber, and they seem to have unstable mental conditions when hosting the PF and are not thinking clearly.

Phoenix Five threads make me want to hurt myself.

Phoenix stomps

@Erik said:

Phoenix Five threads make me want to hurt myself.

Don't do that. You're pretty.

@Erik: Hmm..So I'm not the only one who does that...interesting...But this time I had to make a thread about this abomination because my curiosity overwhelmed me.

Phoenix

@White Mage said:

@Erik said:

Phoenix Five threads make me want to hurt myself.

Don't do that. You're pretty.

:p

@spekqj said:

@Erik: Hmm..So I'm not the only one who does that...interesting...But this time I had to make a thread about this abomination because my curiosity overwhelmed me.

Lol.

It's Jean. She's so ridiculous w/PF that she overrides the OP's rules, rips the PF out of the Five and becomes WPOTC.

@TERMINATORXX said:

Phoenix

@YoungJustice said:

@spekqj: Jean has more experience with the PF. She also could mindr*pe 4 of them................

Her Majesty..The Crown Jean Grey-Phoenix

Didn't Scott show some use of Telepathy in AVX? If i'm correct then they wouldn't have a problem because it's been shown that multiple telepaths can beat a powerful one. Actually on that note Emma would solo.

Emma would solo??? Jean is a more powerful telepath than Emma is.

@charlieboy said:

jean takes this.

@fanofsuperheroes said:

Emma would solo??? Jean is a more powerful telepath than Emma is.

Their powers are amped by the PF.

@MarvelGrey said:

@fanofsuperheroes said:

Emma would solo??? Jean is a more powerful telepath than Emma is.

Their powers are amped by the PF.

You're right, so are Jean's.

@HBKTimHBK: how so?

Emma could deal with the mind stuff from Jean because Jean is constantly being distracted by the other 4 people. I say p5 wins but not easily. Plus when one dies their powers go into the other ones.

@jeanroygrant said:

@charlieboy said:

jean takes this.

@White Mage said:

@Agent9149 said:

Stale mate; the phoenix 5 is basically jean in little bites packaging

Jean IS Phoenix.....they are using HER powers.

She knocks them out by exploiting their beyond obvious weaknesses to physical KO's against their fellow members

Jean is not the Phoenix by any stretch of the imagination. Jean is a woman in her mid 20s while the PF is as old as creation. The P5 would KILL Jean Grey instantly in the scenerio presented by the thread starter. Without the PF, there are plenty of psis who are stronger or can beat her: Shadow King, Xavier, Exodus, Stryfe, and David Haller. I could make strong arguments for Emma Frost beating a non-Phoenix Jean Grey going by feats.

jean full power pf wins because she is stronger than all of the other uses individually. probably together too

@YoungJustice said:

Jean

I agree.

Jean as Phoenix has shown more power.

This is really a spite thread. Jean Grey really isn't all that impressive without the PF. Without the PF, she struggles on a regular basis trying to lift planes, there are telepaths like Shadow King, Xavier, White Queen, Exodus, Stryfe, David Haller and others who have much more powerful TP feats than she and telekinetics like Exodus, Stryfe, Candra, and David Haller who also have more impressive TK feats than she.

I will debate for a non- PF powered Jean tommorow. IBTS.

@jhazzroucher said:

@YoungJustice said:

Jean

I agree.

Jean as Phoenix has shown more power.

The thread starter said that this is Jean without any PF whatsoever vs. the P5. This is in essence "basic" Jean vs the P5. Jean Grey goes down HARD in a nanosecond...

@Stormcell said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@YoungJustice said:

Jean

I agree.

Jean as Phoenix has shown more power.

The thread starter said that this is Jean without any PF whatsoever vs. the P5. This is in essence "basic" Jean vs the P5. Jean Grey goes down HARD in a nanosecond...

Oopps. but thanks for letting me know. Then I agree with you. Jean wouldn't win.

@jhazzroucher said:

@Stormcell said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@YoungJustice said:

Jean

I agree.

Jean as Phoenix has shown more power.

The thread starter said that this is Jean without any PF whatsoever vs. the P5. This is in essence "basic" Jean vs the P5. Jean Grey goes down HARD in a nanosecond...

Oopps. but thanks for letting me know. Then I agree with you. Jean wouldn't win.

Both of you need to re-read the setup

@Stormcell said:

@White Mage said:

@Agent9149 said:

Stale mate; the phoenix 5 is basically jean in little bites packaging

Jean IS Phoenix.....they are using HER powers.

She knocks them out by exploiting their beyond obvious weaknesses to physical KO's against their fellow members

Jean is not the Phoenix by any stretch of the imagination. Jean is a woman in her mid 20s while the PF is as old as creation. The P5 would KILL Jean Grey instantly in the scenerio presented by the thread starter. Without the PF, there are plenty of psis who are stronger or can beat her: Shadow King, Xavier, Exodus, Stryfe, and David Haller. I could make strong arguments for Emma Frost beating a non-Phoenix Jean Grey going by feats.

Endsong disagrees with you

@White Mage said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@Stormcell said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@YoungJustice said:

Jean

I agree.

Jean as Phoenix has shown more power.

The thread starter said that this is Jean without any PF whatsoever vs. the P5. This is in essence "basic" Jean vs the P5. Jean Grey goes down HARD in a nanosecond...

Oopps. but thanks for letting me know. Then I agree with you. Jean wouldn't win.

Both of you need to re-read the setup

sorry. i re-read the set-up now. So this is Phoenix Jean versus Phoenix Five.

I'm going with Phoenix Jean winning the battle. Phoenix in one host is more powerful

@jhazzroucher said:

@White Mage said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@Stormcell said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@YoungJustice said:

Jean

I agree.

Jean as Phoenix has shown more power.

The thread starter said that this is Jean without any PF whatsoever vs. the P5. This is in essence "basic" Jean vs the P5. Jean Grey goes down HARD in a nanosecond...

Oopps. but thanks for letting me know. Then I agree with you. Jean wouldn't win.

Both of you need to re-read the setup

sorry. i re-read the set-up now. So this is Phoenix Jean versus Phoenix Five.

I'm going with Phoenix Jean winning the battle. Phoenix in one host is more powerful

No need for apologies dude. I just want everybody to be crystal clear on the setup

P5

@MarvelGrey said:

@HBKTimHBK: how so?

This is Jean just without being WPOTC...doesn't mean she doesn't have the Phoenix.

@HBKTimHBK said:

@MarvelGrey said:

@HBKTimHBK: how so?

This is Jean just without being WPOTC...doesn't mean she doesn't have the Phoenix.

Oh I must have read it as her without the Phoenix Force in that case then all of them gang up on her with their telepathy.

@Mercy_ said:

P5

Jean also has much more than a Phoenix fragment at her disposal.....