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#1 Posted by whydama (1093 posts) - - Show Bio

The Pheonix 5 vs the Worthy. Worthy have the Serpent on their side. Juggernaught is empowered by Cytorrak and Serpent.

#2 Edited by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

P5 stomps, sadly. The only problem is Kuurth.

#3 Posted by XImpossibruX (5152 posts) - - Show Bio

So is the Pheonix 5 like all the power of the Pheonix but in 1/5'ths?

#4 Posted by KMART4455 (1290 posts) - - Show Bio

@XImpossibruX said:

So is the Pheonix 5 like all the power of the Pheonix but in 1/5'ths?

Yes I do believe.

#5 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@XImpossibruX said:

So is the Pheonix 5 like all the power of the Pheonix but in 1/5'ths?

Yes.

#6 Posted by Guardiandevil83 (5217 posts) - - Show Bio

1/4 now lol

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#7 Posted by BigCimmerian (7845 posts) - - Show Bio

Worthy wins because of the Serpent

#8 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@BigCimmerian said:

Worthy wins because of the Serpent

Serpent had like no feats. The Phoenix would wreak him.

#9 Edited by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@Guardiandevil83 said:

1/4 now lol

Poor Namor...

Poor Namor
#10 Posted by Guardiandevil83 (5217 posts) - - Show Bio

We all seen that coming..dude was too unstable for that kind of power.

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#11 Posted by TheAcidSkull (17152 posts) - - Show Bio

worthy win, Hulk and juggernaut especially

#12 Posted by TDK_1997 (14429 posts) - - Show Bio

Phoenix 5.The Worthy weren't that impressive.

#13 Posted by SHAZAM117 (2494 posts) - - Show Bio

@ TDK_1997 ...Agreed. I've been more impressed by the PHX5 than the Worthy too.

#14 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheAcidSkull said:

worthy win, Hulk and juggernaut especially

Worthy Hulk got beaten by a weakened Thor, so he wasn't that impressive.

Juggernaut seems to be the only threat.

#15 Posted by czarny_samael666 (16888 posts) - - Show Bio
@SHAZAM117 said:
@ TDK_1997 ...Agreed. I've been more impressed by the PHX5 than the Worthy too.
Me too. 
 
Thor was able to take out Nul and Angrir in the same time, while he was weakned. Here, Cyke can one-shot him, Emma defeated him in other occasion and currently even with Rulk, Thing, Strange, Vision and Brunnhilde (+Iron Fist, who seems to have boosted powers when he stand against PF) aid, Namor manhandled him with relative ease. 
Who beside Phoenix Five was able to take group of 100 tonners with Thor and Vision in team like that last time? 
Void, Thanos, Zeus. That are the only people who really has shown such a level. Even Count Nefaria, Ultron and Destroyer didn't do such a things (not that Destroyer can't, but he never did).
 
@venomoushatred1001 said:

P5 stomps, sadly. The only problem is Kuurth.


Agree. But since Colos also has Juggy's powers in him, I doubt that it would be impossible for him to won such a battle. 
 
Plus, as You've said - Serpent has no feats. After first few seconds of this battle, whole The Worthy will be destroyed and there will be only Kuurth and Serpent to finish. When Serpent will go down (and he will), Kuurth won't be immune to TP anymore.
#16 Posted by TheAcidSkull (17152 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001: hulk didn't get beat, hulk beat thor, so thor BFR'd him

#17 Posted by BigCimmerian (7845 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@BigCimmerian said:

Worthy wins because of the Serpent

Serpent had like no feats. The Phoenix would wreak him.

I know that he doesn't have feats, but he said that he is strong enough to slaughter Odin and Mephisto also said that Cul is strong enough to tear Odin apart, and here on the vine everyone agreed that Odin could stomp Phoenix 5.

#18 Posted by greenteaforme (1826 posts) - - Show Bio

@BigCimmerian said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@BigCimmerian said:

Worthy wins because of the Serpent

Serpent had like no feats. The Phoenix would wreak him.

I know that he doesn't have feats, but he said that he is strong enough to slaughter Odin and Mephisto also said that Cul is strong enough to tear Odin apart, and here on the vine everyone agreed that Odin could stomp Phoenix 5.

Then they're ignorant.

On the Thor vs Phoenix thread, it was agreed that Phoenix erases Thor from existence.

Odin is skyfather level, but he's not powerful enough to stand against the Phoenix.

The entire P5 brings the PF, plus their own respective powers.

Odin does not beat the PF or the P5.

#19 Posted by czarny_samael666 (16888 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheAcidSkull said:

@venomoushatred1001: hulk didn't get beat, hulk beat thor, so thor BFR'd him

Hulk was KOd by Thor. And he had Angrir on his side. Thor with dozen other Avengers was getting crushed by Namor.
#20 Posted by whydama (1093 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666:

Hulk was BFRed by Thor not KOed.

#21 Posted by czarny_samael666 (16888 posts) - - Show Bio
@whydama said:

@czarny_samael666:

Hulk was BFRed by Thor not KOed.


Thor winning with Nul (Hulk with Hammer)
In the first part of scan You can see that Hulk was KOd.
#22 Edited by GreenFuse (295 posts) - - Show Bio

Phoenix 5 barbecues them.

Spoilage:

In the most recent AvX, it's discovered that defeating one of the 5 just transfers their portion of the PF to the remaining ones. So...The Worthy are fraked.

#23 Posted by TheAcidSkull (17152 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666: hulk was never KO'd , he was removed from the battle filed , he was still awake in space

#24 Posted by God_Spawn (37158 posts) - - Show Bio

@Guardiandevil83 said:

We all seen that coming..dude was too unstable for that kind of power.

Actually, he isn't the most corrupted. He was manipulated into attacking Wakanda.

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#25 Posted by Saren (25227 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

@whydama said:

@czarny_samael666:

Hulk was BFRed by Thor not KOed.


Thor winning with Nul (Hulk with Hammer)
In the first part of scan You can see that Hulk was KOd.

You'd think the more logical explanation for the text bubble being empty is that there is no sound in space?

Why even have a text bubble otherwise?

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#26 Posted by 80sBaby (1338 posts) - - Show Bio

Because he wasn't KO'd. Notice how the bubble gets words in it as he re-enters the atmosphere. Thor had to BFR Hulk because he couldn't beat him there. Definitely not a KO.

#27 Posted by TheAcidSkull (17152 posts) - - Show Bio

@80sBaby said:

Because he wasn't KO'd. Notice how the bubble gets words in it as he re-enters the atmosphere. Thor had to BFR Hulk because he couldn't beat him there. Definitely not a KO.
#28 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
The Phoenix Five can't even beat Sinister with prep. 
 
LOLz.
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#29 Posted by Guardiandevil83 (5217 posts) - - Show Bio

@80sBaby said:

Because he wasn't KO'd. Notice how the bubble gets words in it as he re-enters the atmosphere. Thor had to BFR Hulk because he couldn't beat him there. Definitely not a KO.

Yea he was awake. And ended up fighting with Draculas nation of Vampire when he re-entered our atmosphere.

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#30 Posted by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - - Show Bio

worthy hulk got beat by a wounded or weakened Thor, while P5 Cyclops held off Mjolnir with his index finger, and P5 Emma Frost beat up Thor while making fun of his long gold hair....

Phoenix 5 win

#31 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@ChaosBlazer said:

worthy hulk got beat by a wounded or weakened Thor, while P5 Cyclops held off Mjolnir with his index finger, and P5 Emma Frost beat up Thor while making fun of his long gold hair....

Phoenix 5 win

Emma mocking Thor does not mean she defeated him with ease, even though I agree the Five would win.
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#32 Posted by czarny_samael666 (16888 posts) - - Show Bio
@80sBaby said:
Because he wasn't KO'd. Notice how the bubble gets words in it as he re-enters the atmosphere. Thor had to BFR Hulk because he couldn't beat him there. Definitely not a KO.
Definitly a KO. He was just floating around.
 
@Guardiandevil83 said:

@80sBaby said:

Because he wasn't KO'd. Notice how the bubble gets words in it as he re-enters the atmosphere. Thor had to BFR Hulk because he couldn't beat him there. Definitely not a KO.

Yea he was awake. And ended up fighting with Draculas nation of Vampire when he re-entered our atmosphere.


He wake up, but he wasn't awake there. Similar thing happened in fight between Sentry and Blue MArvel. Sentry was KOd, yet he was able to come back to fight - we don't know how long Nul was there, since he didn't respond to Serpent's summon. 
 
@CitizenBane said:

You'd think the more logical explanation for the text bubble being empty is that there is no sound in space?

Why even have a text bubble otherwise?

Empty bubble is similar tp "...". Hulk didn't have control over his own body. If this would be ground and he would be just lying down in the same position with closed eyes, wouldn't You say that he is defeated?
#33 Posted by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - - Show Bio

@Morpheus_ said:

@ChaosBlazer said:

worthy hulk got beat by a wounded or weakened Thor, while P5 Cyclops held off Mjolnir with his index finger, and P5 Emma Frost beat up Thor while making fun of his long gold hair....

Phoenix 5 win

Emma mocking Thor does not mean she defeated him with ease, even though I agree the Five would win.

lol just thought that was kinda funny

#34 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheAcidSkull said:

@venomoushatred1001: hulk didn't get beat, hulk beat thor, so thor BFR'd him

BFR = win.

#35 Posted by MarvelGrey (243 posts) - - Show Bio

@Guardiandevil83: Oh come on spoiler tags next time.

#36 Posted by Saren (25227 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said: .

@CitizenBane said:

You'd think the more logical explanation for the text bubble being empty is that there is no sound in space?

Why even have a text bubble otherwise?

Empty bubble is similar tp "...". Hulk didn't have control over his own body. If this would be ground and he would be just lying down in the same position with closed eyes, wouldn't You say that he is defeated?

He didn't have control over his own body because he was in space. Falling from the atmosphere. It is hard to have control over your own body in such a situation. If he was unconscious, why even have a text bubble? Notice how when he's in an area where there is no sound, the bubble is empty, but the minute he enters an area where there is sound, the bubble is filled. If he was on the ground and unconscious, he would not have a text bubble.

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#37 Posted by Guardiandevil83 (5217 posts) - - Show Bio

@MarvelGrey said:

@Guardiandevil83: Oh come on spoiler tags next time.

So sorry I just joined not to long ago and don't really know how things work.

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#38 Posted by _Psy_ (3388 posts) - - Show Bio

I hate the P5, but they win.
Emma Frost dies because I said so.

#39 Posted by MarvelGrey (243 posts) - - Show Bio

@Guardiandevil83: I shall forgive and forget. But the P5, The Rasputins could do this by themselves.

#40 Edited by Guardiandevil83 (5217 posts) - - Show Bio

@MarvelGrey said:

@Guardiandevil83: I shall forgive and forget. But the P5, The Rasputins could do this by themselves.

Thanks. This is one of the few places I can interact with people with the same or similar interest because my family and friends are civilians. lol. I don't want any static.

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#41 Posted by God_Spawn (37158 posts) - - Show Bio

P5

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#42 Posted by Magethor (1054 posts) - - Show Bio

They can't BFR the Juggernaut Kuurth, but they can still win, by going to Cyttorak and telling him that Cain is serving another. The biggest threat is Kuurth, not the Serpent.

#43 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001 said:

P5 stomps, sadly. The only problem is Kuurth.

#44 Posted by czarny_samael666 (16888 posts) - - Show Bio
@CitizenBane said:

@czarny_samael666 said: .

@CitizenBane said:

You'd think the more logical explanation for the text bubble being empty is that there is no sound in space?

Why even have a text bubble otherwise?

Empty bubble is similar tp "...". Hulk didn't have control over his own body. If this would be ground and he would be just lying down in the same position with closed eyes, wouldn't You say that he is defeated?

He didn't have control over his own body because he was in space. Falling from the atmosphere. It is hard to have control over your own body in such a situation. If he was unconscious, why even have a text bubble? Notice how when he's in an area where there is no sound, the bubble is empty, but the minute he enters an area where there is sound, the bubble is filled. If he was on the ground and unconscious, he would not have a text bubble.

1.What does it matter? Other heroes (including Hulk) in the same place didn't look like unconsciouss ones, like Hulk did here. 
2.Sorry, but what do You think when You see bubble like this "..."? Do You think that they are KOd or not? 
#45 Posted by czarny_samael666 (16888 posts) - - Show Bio
@Magethor said:

They can't BFR the Juggernaut Kuurth, but they can still win, by going to Cyttorak and telling him that Cain is serving another. The biggest threat is Kuurth, not the Serpent.

Without Serpent, Kuurth will be just Juggy.
#46 Edited by Magethor (1054 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

@Magethor said:

They can't BFR the Juggernaut Kuurth, but they can still win, by going to Cyttorak and telling him that Cain is serving another. The biggest threat is Kuurth, not the Serpent.

Without Serpent, Kuurth will be just Juggy.

Kuurth is just a blood lusted Cain. All Serpent did was release his mind from morals so he can access more power from Cyttrak

#47 Posted by czarny_samael666 (16888 posts) - - Show Bio
@Magethor said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

@Magethor said:

They can't BFR the Juggernaut Kuurth, but they can still win, by going to Cyttorak and telling him that Cain is serving another. The biggest threat is Kuurth, not the Serpent.

Without Serpent, Kuurth will be just Juggy.

Kuurth is just a blood lusted Cain. All Serpent did was release his mind from morals so he can access more power from Cyttrak

No, since Kuurth's hammer allow him to fly, teleport and gives him immunity to telepathy. He is truly unstoppable for anyone in Thor/Superman/Surfer level\, yet P5 are much above that level.
#48 Edited by Magethor (1054 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

@Magethor said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

@Magethor said:

They can't BFR the Juggernaut Kuurth, but they can still win, by going to Cyttorak and telling him that Cain is serving another. The biggest threat is Kuurth, not the Serpent.

Without Serpent, Kuurth will be just Juggy.

Kuurth is just a blood lusted Cain. All Serpent did was release his mind from morals so he can access more power from Cyttrak

No, since Kuurth's hammer allow him to fly, teleport and gives him immunity to telepathy. He is truly unstoppable for anyone in Thor/Superman/Surfer level\, yet P5 are much above that level.

That was Cyttorak's power not Serpents. All the hammer did was possess him just like everyone else who held a weapon of the Worthy

#49 Posted by czarny_samael666 (16888 posts) - - Show Bio
@Magethor said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

@Magethor said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

@Magethor said:

They can't BFR the Juggernaut Kuurth, but they can still win, by going to Cyttorak and telling him that Cain is serving another. The biggest threat is Kuurth, not the Serpent.

Without Serpent, Kuurth will be just Juggy.

Kuurth is just a blood lusted Cain. All Serpent did was release his mind from morals so he can access more power from Cyttrak

No, since Kuurth's hammer allow him to fly, teleport and gives him immunity to telepathy. He is truly unstoppable for anyone in Thor/Superman/Surfer level\, yet P5 are much above that level.

That was Cyttorak's power not Serpents. All the hammer did was possess him.

Can You prove this? Because he gained this powers when Serpent controlled him. Even without Cyttorak's powers, he was still "making runes" by walking.
#50 Posted by Magethor (1054 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

@Magethor said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

@Magethor said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

@Magethor said:

They can't BFR the Juggernaut Kuurth, but they can still win, by going to Cyttorak and telling him that Cain is serving another. The biggest threat is Kuurth, not the Serpent.

Without Serpent, Kuurth will be just Juggy.

Kuurth is just a blood lusted Cain. All Serpent did was release his mind from morals so he can access more power from Cyttrak

No, since Kuurth's hammer allow him to fly, teleport and gives him immunity to telepathy. He is truly unstoppable for anyone in Thor/Superman/Surfer level\, yet P5 are much above that level.

That was Cyttorak's power not Serpents. All the hammer did was possess him.

Can You prove this? Because he gained this powers when Serpent controlled him. Even without Cyttorak's powers, he was still "making runes" by walking.

Of course he was making runes, those letters were chants of worship for the Serpent because he still held the hammer. Ever wondered why Kuurth was the most powerful Worthy while everyone else pretty much kept the same power level. All of them were just brainwashed with no morals. But Juggernaut's power increases with more destruction he causes, Cyttorak felt the destruction and made Kuurth virtually more unstoppable than he was when he had morals.