PH: Captain Atom (Jac) vs Silver Surfer (SB14) VOTING

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Intro

Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, welcome to one of the most stacked tourneys the Vine has ever had! We have multiple (future) hall of famers here, using the most powerful characters in comics (and anime). Sign-Ups are still open, until Sunday February 23 at 8 pm ET so if you wish to participate, go to the sign up thread here and make sure to tag me!

The Characters!

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Captain Atom (immune to TP)

@jacthripper's champion is the mighty Nathaniel Adam, who possesses vast energy manipulation powers but is too afraid that he'll hurt someone to fight often. However, he's one of the most powerful heroes in the DCU, and will be a formidable foe for...

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The first time debater @scootybali14 enters the battle with Norrin Radd, herald of Galactus who has the Power Cosmic at his disposal. Which white wonder will win this battle?

Rules!

As always we must create guidelines for the contestants to abide by, lest someone attempt to cheat their opponent out of a match. Here they are:

  • No time manipulation
  • Must be below skyfather. If Odin has too much trouble with your character, they're probably too much for the tournament.
  • No reality warping. Or if your character does have reality warping, they will not be allowed to use it.
  • BFR is not allowed
  • No prep.
  • No possessing opponents. TP and soul attacks are allowed though. For example Deadman wouldn't be allowed.
  • Please be polite and courteous
  • Fight takes place here:
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I'll post mine in few

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Good match up... Hopefully Scootybli meets the expectation (not counting him out at all but ik Jacktheripper is good at this and Scooty is new)

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Norrin Radd is from the utopian planet Zenn-La, one day galactus comes to devour his planet and his option is to be come the new herald in order to saved his doomed world. Galactus has givin him these powers thru the cosmic cube.

SS is He has alot ability to see the ones ill be focusing on the most are...

1)Power/energy absorption/manipulation

2)Warp speed/nano second thought process

4)The ability to create duplicates of myself with the same power

5)The Board

My DURABILITY:

He has the ability to make his skin any kind of density and cover it in w.e. Energy force he wants he has tanked nuclear explosions just as my opponent has....only difference is I can feed off that energy forever and only get stronger. I've been in the sun and taken energy from stars before. I gather energy from the ambient energy around us all

Beat lunatik...almost effortless who KO'd the watcher...a few panels earlier.

Thrown to the moon and feels nothing

Falls from planets and smiles http://s22.photobucket.com/user/surfistaprateado/media/CaptainUniverseSS1-14.jpg.html

Speed: Traveled light years before thanos could move throw a punch, he's analyzed information im fractions of a second and acted accordingly

Control over the energy forces is what my specialty

I can Hurt you by thinking about it(energy forms only) http://s22.photobucket.com/user/surfistaprateado/media/Cosmic_Powers_Unlimited_03_21.jpg.html

Duplicates have the same power as me so you will be fighting two silver surfers With two boards from this moment on http://s22.photobucket.com/user/surfistaprateado/media/Silver_Surfer_vol3_127-18.jpg.html

Few Reasons I will win:

I can teleport and warp speed attack you, before you can even blink!

I can coat myself in w.e. Energy, radiation, or substance I want to, to make my hits deal more damage.

Or I can just feed off your energy until you have literally nothing left to give or atleast get weakened.....morals off remember

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Theres nothing you can do at all that will make me stop attacking you....or wont make me more powerful! Two surfers are worse then one btw

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@scootybali14: You should probably tag your opponent so he knows u posted.

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It wont let me I tried earlier can you do it

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@scootybali14: use the "@" symbol and a thing will appear where you tag him. Unless your one hand held?

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Handheld!

I have proof of scans but I think I might just save it BC the link doesn't transfer over well

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Watcher gets KO

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@scootybali14: I'lol get my opener up soon. As far as tagging from mobile (which I'm on atm) just type the @ symbol with their name. Like so @thenewbluebeetle007

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Ok np ill be posting links to the scans at the end so the format doesn't look terrible

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#15  Edited By adamTRMM

N52 Atom?

Tag for votes.

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@adamtrmm: Composite Atom, and my opener goes up tonight.

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@jacthripper:

Not to interfere or something, just curious how is should work? They're different characters (powerwise) basically.

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@scootybali14: Time to kicketh @$$

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Captain Atom!

Now it's time to show my henceforth awesome character, here's Nathaniel Adam!

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Powers

Quantum Field Manipulation - Captain Atom's metal skin is a conduit that is connected directly to the Quantum Field, a limitless void of all matter and all energy that enables him to absorb, generate and manipulate infinite amounts of energy and matter. The amount of which he can use is limited by his willpower, scientific knowledge, and imagination. The Quantum Field has given him various uses, and many of which are unknown. Although he is able to use it with limitless potential, he most commonly uses it for his superhuman physical abilities, and his ability to manipulate energy and matter. The Quantum Field also grants him various immunities and/or resistances against telepathy and molecular manipulation.

- Invulnerability - Dilustel metal "skin" has a symbiotic relationship with Captain Atom's body and is virtually indestructible, highly resistant to various degrees of damage from energy, heat, lasers, missiles, warheads, the interior of a black hole, etc. In certain situations, his skin can be breached, most notably by X-ionized weapons or weapons that are made to cut/punch through any surface (Crimson Avenger's enchanted bullets, Zealot's swords, etc.). Against physical force, he's shown to withstand punishment from some of the strongest beings (Wonder Woman, Major Force, Mr. Majestic, Ultraa, Apollo, Orion, Maul, Power Girl, etc) without having his skin breached. His invulnerability extends to being impervious to certain magical spells and attacks.

- Superhuman endurance - The energies of the Quantum Field sustain Captain Atom. When covered in his Dilustel skin, he has no need for food, sleep, or oxygen. He can survive in outer space and doesn't need to breathe. His endurance is increased to superhuman levels, and he can perform strenuous activity for a long and undefined period.

- Energy Projection and Manipulation - He is able to emit blasts of any type of quantum-based energy from any part of his body at once, but normally prefers using his hands for ease of aim. He is able to control the magnitude and wavelength of his energy blasts at will. He can stun his opponents with his blasts at the lowest setting. But, at higher settings, he's shown to blow up aircraft (ranging from fighter jets to large spaceships, such as Kobra's Ark), tanks, stagger powerful super-powered beings, incinerate a human being down to their bones or completely vaporize them, detonate atomic explosions, and the list goes on. At one point, the force from high-powered blasts have started earthquakes (while Atom was fighting another being underground). With the Quantum Field, he is able to generate and manipulate forces along the Unified Field (fundamental forces). In the same way, he learned to access weak force energy, manipulate gravitational forces, and electromagnetism (has generated pure light from his body, and manipulated electromagnetism to shut of the Ray's powers with a simple blast of energy). The Quantum Field also grants his Quantum blasts with the effect of intense heat, and he has shown to be able to melt down dense metallic substances and heat things up with what he likes to call 'Quantum heat.' At one point, he applied his energy manipulation to manipulate the electric impulses in one's brain, in order to put them to sleep. Captain Atom is also able to generate energy shields (strong enough to stop things as powerful as entropy) around himself, and others. He was once able to transmute the force of an energy blast, as well.

- Godlike Strength- The limits of Captain Atom's physical strength are unknown, but based on his showings, he is well in excess of Class 100 and is well within Superman's strength class, although not exactly equal to him. To date, he's been able to physically fight and/or inflict damage on beings such as Wonder Woman, Mr, Majestic, Ultraa, Major Force, Superman (who was brainwashed at the time), and the like. It was stated that he is strong enough to move around mountains.

- Superhuman Reflexes - Captain Atom is able to think, move and react at superhuman speeds, significantly greater than humans. Dr. Heinrich Megala revealed that Captain Atom was once able to move faster than he could think during his experimental testing of Captain Atom's powers. He has shown to react fast enough to stop bullets with his hand, and move fast enough to intercept gunfire after it's already left the barrel. He has also displayed some level of superhuman speed during his battle with Ultraa. Recently in the New-52 reboot, Captain Atom had a lengthy conversation with the Flash, which happened in the space of 3 thousandths of a second.

- Energy Absorption - Extreme energy absorption that's second to none in the DC Universe. With proper control, concentration, and regulation of his energy absorption rate, he is capable of absorb infinite amounts of energy to avoid quantum jumping through time. There is almost no form of energy that Captain Atom is unable to absorb. In the new 52 he absorbed a Nuclear Bomb. However, it has often happened when he has had to absorb huge amounts of energy that he involuntarily Quantum Leaps through time and space,

- Techno-Interface - He has also shown the ability to telepathically interface with computer networks and the binary system.

-Matter Manipulation - He has shown to manipulate cohesive force to make 'protomatter.' On occasion, he has shown to transmute solid objects, akin to Firestorm, having transmuted Green Arrow's arrows into butterflies and a firearm into a toy spaceship. He used his ability to affect matter on an atomic scale to turn Maul and Engineer back into their human forms. Depending on the situation, it appears as if this ability is used on instinct or with some level of concentration. At one point, he was able to create a universe within the Quantum Field. In the new 52 he was able to turn two fighter jets into feathers.

- Time Travel - Through great concentration and strain, he is capable of traveling ahead in time (without the aid of Quantum Jumping) for a limited period before returning to the present (about a week ahead or so).

- Flight - Ability to fly at supersonic speeds (speeds at Earth's escape velocity or greater) in an atmosphere and at sub-light speeds (more than half the speed of light) in interstellar space & when traveling interstellar distances. However, Captain Atom claims that he can hit light speed if he wants to.

- Enhance abilities - Because the Quantum Field is based on his willpower, he has the ability to enhance his superhuman abilities. So far, he has shown to enhance his physical strength, the magnitude of his energy blasts, his flight speed, his senses (most notably his hearing), and his stamina (during a battle in which he was weakened).

- Military Experience - Has Air Force officer training in covert operations, military weaponry (mostly firearms), strategy, and hand-to-hand combat (quite possibly based on MAC training). Major Nathanial Adam also has strong survival instincts derived from his experiences during the Vietnam War.

- Air Force Pilot - He is a skilled combat pilot.

Of course, this means little, so I'll begin by showing the weakest powers at my disposal from Injustice Captain Atom (y'know he's composite).

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He smacks Superman in the face, and actually ends up beating him through sheer physical might. Of course, this showing means little if anything in this fight, but it's a nice little feat nonetheless.

Why I'll Win

  • I haven't shown it yet, but Atom has superior matter manipulation and energy manipulation feats, which will give him an advantage
  • Atom has a strength advantage, which is undeniable
  • Atom also has a combat speed advantage, which I'll be displaying later

Actually, to put it simply, a composite Atom is better in every single way I can think of outside of telepathy, which I've made Cap immune to.

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My Strategy

1)create a duplicate to help battle

2) blast you with cosmic energy...which I dont know you can withstand

3) Create a Ixonized(elements, matter manipulation) weapon to use against you

4) SS can also absorb all the energy inside you til you cant fight

Plan Of Attack

I know your power is superior so I wont be trying to engage you in H2H unless its necessary

1) I will instead create a duplicate of myself to fight you and holograms(which have tricked galactus before) if need be, to keep you busy

2)while you busy ill blast you with powerful cosmic energy (possibly sending you forward/backwards in time)ending the fight

3) I can attack you with Ixon weapon to break ur dilustel

4) I can manage sooner or later to get a hold of you assuming the fight is still going on and consume all the energy inside you I can also overload you energy until you explode

If all else fails I can trap.you inside my board and absorb you

Reasons why I win

No energy attack would put me down: I have absorbed the OA central battery and controlled the power

This would come down to you fighting holograms and duplicates before you knew which one I really am which is plenty of time for my plan to work......stall you with enough time to blast you with cosmic energy(which I dont think you can take) and blast you into the past for the auto KO

You have been blasted thru time by far less blasts then SS will dish out

SUMMARY

So while your busy blasting or hitting the holograms and the duplicate ill be hitting you with cosmic energy or harnessing your own energy to hurt you which alone should be plenty but

If we do end up fighting I can and will manage to grab you and overload your energy or absorb it all and since its never ending this might take a while.........

Scans for energy control:

http://s22.photobucket.com/user/surfistaprateado/media/GL_SS_UA_-_0046.jpg.html

http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GL_SS_UA_-_0047.jpg

http://s22.photobucket.com/user/surfistaprateado/media/GL_SS_UA_-_0048.jpg.html

Scans for duplicate/holgrams

http://s22.photobucket.com/user/surfistaprateado/media/Silver_Surfer_vol3_127-18.jpg.html

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GalactusTheDevourer6-30a.jpg

Scans for transmutation

http://s22.photobucket.com/user/surfistaprateado/media/Silver_Surfer_v3_097_22.jpg.html

Scans for board absorption:

http://s22.photobucket.com/user/surfistaprateado/media/Silver_Surfer_1996_122_17.jpg.html

IM CLOSING

I chose those scans for a reason they show Ss can absorb alot of power and control it he can also redirect it in greater amounts!

He can turn sand into what he wants wants.....look at where were fighting!

His duplicates have the same power he does(I have a scan to prove it)!

My board can absorb you then I can covert it to energy with you in it and then absorb you

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@scootybali14: In the future, tag me, I've already explained how to do it, and it's rather simple. I'll get my post up ASAP.

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#24  Edited By Static Shock

Injustice Captain Atom and New 52 Captain Atom are not the same. They are both from different continuities.

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@jacthripper it doesn't work when I tag ppl

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Injustice Captain Atom and New 52 Captain Atom are not the same. They are both from different continuities.

He's using Composite Cap

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@scootybali14: Time to crush hopes and dreams

Counter Town!

1)create a duplicate to help battle

Guess what? Not only is this out of character for Surfer, but Atom can do it better!

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That's what? 20 of him, as to your 1 duplicate.

2) blast you with cosmic energy...which I dont know you can withstand

Don't worry, Nathaniel can take this no problem, at least he should be able to considering he shrugs off city busting attacks like they aren't even there.

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3) Create a Ionized(elements, matter manipulation) weapon to use against you

What sort of Ionized Elements? Regardless, the good Captain is as good, if not better at matter manipulation.

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This is an early Captain Atom, he later develops greater control over his powers, to the extent that he can even create people.

4) SS can also absorb all the energy inside you til you cant fight

May I have a showing of him performing this feat against a similarly skilled energy manipulator?

I know your power is superior so I wont be trying to engage you in H2H unless its necessary

Unfortunately for you, Atom will quickly realize that the energy game won't play well, and he will engage you in close combat.

1) I will instead create a duplicate of myself to fight you and holograms(which have tricked galactus before) if need be, to keep you busy

See the first image I posted, I can be in 20 places at once, so this doesn't hold up.

2)while you busy ill blast you with powerful cosmic energy (possibly sending you forward/backwards in time)ending the fight

Hey, you want to talk about sending people through time? Did you know that

  1. BFR is not allowed
  2. even if it was, Atom has superior time manipulation abilities

3) I can attack you with Ixon weapon to break ur dilustel

Unfortunately, in the New 52, Captain Atom doesn't need Dilustel, in fact he doesn't really need a body, and even if one is destroyed, he can simply rebuild it.

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4) I can manage sooner or later to get a hold of you assuming the fight is still going on and consume all the energy inside you I can also overload you energy until you explode

Unfortunately, as of the New 52, Captain Atom has shown no limit as to the energy he can absorb, he's actually been able to absorb Captain Atoms from other timelines, without any stress on his physical integrity.

If all else fails I can trap.you inside my board and absorb you

Yes, except there are 20 duplicates of Captain Atom, and I'm faster than you combat-wise, fast enough to absorb a nuke before it destroys more than a building.

No energy attack would put me down: I have absorbed the OA central battery and controlled the power

This is non-canon, meaning it does not apply.

This would come down to you fighting holograms and duplicates before you knew which one I really am which is plenty of time for my plan to work......stall you with enough time to blast you with cosmic energy(which I dont think you can take) and blast you into the past for the auto KO

  1. The same could be said for Atom, he can also duplicate himself
  2. I can take the blast, especially since "cosmic energy"has never really had a set damage output. Cap eats Nukes like candy, how much damage are you dealing?
  3. Even if you could destroy one of them, There's other duplicates, and Cap can always regenerate himself.

You have been blasted thru time by far less blasts then SS will dish out

Maybe in the Pre-52, where even still Cap has taken down Hal Jordan, but the New 52 releases Nathaniel from such limits. Inn my next post I'll get into what Pre-52 Nate can do.

Conclusions

  • Captain Atom can do everything that Norrin can, but better
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COUNTER

Ok lets do this you. You keep saying Atom is better but im just not seeing it!! And with composite, dont you take the good and bad?

So with that being sad im not seeing any clear cut way for you to get past two surfers or more with morals off. And here's why....

REASONS

1) Still no answer to the powers cosmic

2) Still no answer to X-ion weapon

3) Still no answer to the board absorption

4) Im bloodlusted and morals off theres no telling what his character would do

1) as stated I dont know if you can withstand a blast of cosmic energy seeing how in the past less powerful blasts, have sent u into the future/past!!

So I dont think a planet busting blast would keep you standing on your feet

2) If X-ion weapons can break ur "shell" or skin then why wouldn't I create a weapon composed of that leaving open ur human form

And for that matter I think I could just destroy your Dilustel with matter manipulation if i could take a plague of a person cell by cell i think I could take that off

3) Simply put you can't stop my board from absorbing you

4)Theres no telling what SS would do because he's out to kill and moving at warp speed is no easy thing to overcome with force fields that easily withstood the hulk I think he can take you

MY STRATEGY

well little has really changed seeing as how I still how many different options! I will however through a way to win to keep you off balance

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@jacthripper: you want to finish this? The next opponent (Takion) is waiting.

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@thenewbluebeetle007: No votes, who wins chief?

hang tight, you can't start next match until ca1 and speedster are done anyway, and they're only on the final post of the match.

I'll vote for you, though I think you got a little cocky with this one

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It is SS who is superior to Atom not the other way around.

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wow. what happened in here? I wish I could have represented Surfer.......................

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So it looks like its 2-0 unless ghost rider voted

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Can you tag people for votes or something I'm on mobile so I cant

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My vote goes to @jacthripper. While Silver Surfer has a substantial amount of feats, and definitely has the potential to win (if done correctly), I don't believe a strong enough argument was made for him.