Peter Petrelli vs MCU AOU Avengers

I recently did Sylar vs MCU Avengers and basically got he kills everyone but Hulk and maybe Thor. Now I want to try Heroes strongest character, Peter Petrelli.

- Peter has all of his powers

- bloodlusted

- AOU Avengers plus Scarlet witch, Quicksliver, and Ulton

- Avengers team must kill or permanently KO Peter

- Peter must kill entire Avengers team

Peter most likely. Too versatile and can take pretty much anything Avengers throw at him. Except maybe Wanda's TP.

@rbt: Peter has TP through his encounters with Sylar and Matt IIRC

And next to no skill using it. Peter and Sylar for all their powers are not fighters, they are just two average guys with a lot of powers.

Bloodlusted Peter just goes radioactive and explodes. Nobody is surviving a nuke.

Peter easily if he's bloodlusted and fully powered.

An explosion that 1. Takes time to visibly build which means he can be decapitated or bfred before he explodes same way Nathan removed him 2. Didn't even kill Nathan.

Even bloodlusted Peter is still a nurse with next to no combat skills.

Peter stops time then goes BOOM.

1. Who's gonna decapitate him? And he could always use TK to keep them away....or just stop time...

2. IIRC Nathan was already falling out of the blast radius before Peter exploded

Who needs combat skill when you're virtually unkillable with hax powers?

Time stop then phase through their heads and crush their brains.

@buttersdaman000:

1. Who's gonna decapitate him? And he could always use TK to keep them away....or just stop time...

Several members of the team can separate him from his head while he stands there charging. He has never manipulated that many people while they are advancing his tk being effective against all of them at once is baseless. He doesn't stop time, he slows it and speedsters are partially immune to it.

2. IIRC Nathan was already falling out of the blast radius before Peter exploded

Nathan was badly burned by the explosion, meaning he was within it's radius. It was supposed to destroy a city, I doubt Nathan flew a city away before Peter exploded.

Who needs combat skill when you're virtually unkillable with hax powers?

He does, when facing battle hardened opponents. Having a lot of powers does not mean instant win, when your opponents have more experience at using their one or two powers in a combat situation as a team.

Like who? Quicksilver is the one with any speed and even then Peter is faster. And, why do you assume he's just gonna stand there?? The only speedster that was able to resist his time stop was moving faster than light. No one on the MCU team is close to that.

Ok? I said blast radius i.e the force of the explosion. The heat/radiation extends far beyond that.

Their powers that won't mean anything when faced with his hax....

@buttersdaman000:

Like who? Quicksilver is the one with any speed and even then Peter is faster. And, why do you assume he's just gonna stand there?? The only speedster that was able to resist his time stop was moving faster than light. No one on the MCU team is close to that.

When has he turned into a human bomb and not just stood there? Daphne moving at those speeds when Hiro stopped her was never confirmed and if she could move faster than the speed of light she should have already been able to break the time barrier without Ando. Future Sylar proved she is not faster than light and so did that bullet that killed her.

Ok? I said blast radius i.e the force of the explosion. The heat/radiation extends far beyond that.

The heat and radiation are still generated by the explosion so why would it not be included in the blast radius?

Their powers that won't mean anything when faced with his hax....

Except we know that Peter with all his powers and bloodlust does not use his powers as effectively as you speculate he can having no real combat experience or training.

Peter wins

If he has empathic mimicry he could copy all of their powers and it would be a curbstomp. Without it:

He slows time. The only one still moving will be quick silver and we saw that speedsters only move at normal speed when time is slowed.

He can then snap quicksilvers neck with telekinesis. The others will be pretty much frozen and so he can do whatever he wants. He could pretty much just snap the necks of hawkeye, Black widow, scarlet witch. He could teleport hulk into the sun, phase through thor's skull and pull out his brain or teleport him to the sun too. He could mind control the hulk to kill the others. Stop time and teleport mjolnir to the sun.

Mind control Thor and get him to kill the others. Ultron he could phase through and pull out his power core or rip it out with telekinesis. He could emit a nuclear explosion, unleash powerful electrical attacks. Trap everyone but scarlet witch inside their worst nightmares. He could go back in time and kill bruce banner. He could absorb all the gamma radiation out of him.

. He could do pretty much anything to them.

avengers

Not saying he wont win but he hasn't done most of this stuff. On that note he kills them all with an explosion

He has done a lot of this stuff to other people. All his powers includes empathic mimicry which would make it a total curbstomp. Even without that, he would have intuitive aptitude and thus know how to use his powers as well as sylar did.

Basically with intuitive aptitude he would be able to do anything with his powers that was demonstrated by someone else he absorbed them from.

He could teleport the hulk into the sun I'm sure. He hasn't teleported anyone else there because he hasn't wanted to kill them but he showed he could touch them and teleport them anywhere he wanted and so did Hiro.

DL phased through Linderman and put his fist through his brain, Peter should be able to do it to thor. The MCU hulk has shown himself vulnerable to mind control and his mind control powers are decent.

Peter walks away with some new powers and a neat shield =p

@breakingthrones: He can't teleport people that far without a power boost neither can Hiro they have only shown to teleport people other places on earth to teleport someone to the sun would require thousands of times further than anyone has been teleported on the show.

"YOU WANT ME TO PUT THE HAMMER DOWN!!!"

*Spongebob Disembodied voice*: One Second Later

Town has been nuked. Insta K.O

Future Peter can take this

Thor solos. Hulk solos. He can survive a very large nuke.

He doesn't need a power boost, he effortlessly teleported a guy to the other side of the world. Hiro travelled 400 years back in time, I think with that power peter could manage to teleport a guy to the sun. Even if he doesn't teleport him to the sun, he could teleport him anywhere on earth, that feat has been shown.

There are too many ways for him to win.

This hulk showed no such feat, bear in mind this is MCU hulk.

The whole stopping Time thing is a huge advantage, Then throw in the rest of his powers, And that is probably that.

@flumox56: He can also go back in time and kill Bruce Banner before he becomes the hulks. Murder thor as a child and easily kill all the others, if morals off.

Peter's got this in the bag.

Flight

SpaceTime Manipulation

Electrokinises

Nuke

Empathicmimicry

Invisability

Regeneration

Phasing

Super Speed

Telekinesis

Super Strength

Earthquick thingy

and more

Really depends on the incarnation of Peter. Composite Peter or any of the future Peters or EOS Peter with Empathic Mimicry returned to him could all just stop time at super speed and teleport them to the far-flung future or phase them apart or use any of his powers to stomp them.

It's just that realised Peter with EM, even when he had Intuituve Aptitude, was just a terrible fighter. I seriously think he would've lost to Sylar, despite having some abilities that should let him lolstomp, like telepathy, TS manip and Daphne's speed. While it may be possible that he's better than we've seen at using these abilities (he's never contolled minds but he's searched memories, which should be harder and while he's never stopped time on purpose he's time traveled and teleported, which should be harder) he just doesn't have feats of using them to their best.

@breakingthrones: he can't kill thor. Asgard is in another part of the universe. There is at least millions of light years distance. Also odin would not and destroy him even if he somehow managed to go to asgard.

Thor solos. He survived ~100 ish megaton explosion that destroyed a 2 mile wide landmass. A small nuclear explosion is not hurting him.

Again this is MCU Thor and MCU Asgard. MCU Odin isn't that powerful.

I would argue he could go to Asgard and stop time so no one attacks him. Even if he can't, he really doesn't need to.

Don't be ridiculous, that WAS NOT a 100 megaton explosion. He also got knocked out by the blast. If peter unleashes a nuclear explosion in his face, he will be at least knocked out. Another one might kill him.

Thor has no chance of soloing.

Peter has so many ways to beat thor it's not even funny.

Mind control - which he is susceptible to. Phasing through his brain. Stopping time and toying with him. Teleporting him into the sun or into a volcano. Using telekinesis to block his projectile attacks and throwing them back at him. Pinning him to the ground with telekinesis and cutting open his head ( possibly). Turning him to gold, creating a vortex and dumping him in it etc.. He has SO many powers at his disposal.

Including intuitive aptitude so he knows how everything works instantly. He would understand how Thor works and counter everything.

Most importantly he has empathic mimicry and thus will copy ALL of the powers of the MCU avengers, Thor has no chance.

@breakingthrones: But mcu odin power was destroying that ice planet. He is still near planetbuster. And yes that WAS a 100 ish megaton explosion. It fragmentated a trillion ton rock-landmass which needs 100+ megatons of TNT.

MCU Odin was nowhere near as powerful as Odin from the comics.

No it wasn't at all, you are pulling facts out of nowhere. How the hell did you come to the conclusion that it was a trillion ton landmass!?

This is what a 100 megaton explosion would do:

Effects radii for 100 megaton airburst

Fireball radius: 6.1 km (117 km²)

Maximum size of the nuclear fireball; relevance to lived effects depends on height of detonation. If it touches the ground, the amount of radioactive fallout is significantly increased. Minimum burst height for negligible fallout: 5.49 km.Air blast radius (5 psi): 32.6 km (3,350 km²)

At 5 psi overpressure, most residential buildings collapse, injuries are universal, fatalities are widespread. Optimal height of burst to maximize this effect is 14.5km.Thermal radiation radius (3rd degree burns): 73.7 km (17,080km²)

Third degree burns extend throughout the layers of skin, and are often painless because they destroy the pain nerves. They can cause severe scarring or disablement, and can require amputation. 100% probability for 3rd degree burns at this yield is 13.9 cal/cm².

*Detonation altitude: 14,490 m. (Chosen to maximize the 5 psi range.)

This is similar to the explosive damage peter was going to cause but he emitted the explosion in the air instead.

It would knock out everyone and a second one would probably kill them. He could do all this whilst time is stopped.

@breakingthrones: i calculated Sokovias size and found that it is trillion tons. You can do it too if you don't believe me. Stop the mivie and scale from buildings.