Peter Petrelli and Sylar vs Superman (smallville) -read op- - Battles

#1 Posted by BMEZY (1182 posts) - 10 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

Sypnosis: Future Peter Petrelli (ruthless) and Future Sylar teleports to Smallville in search for green mineral rock Mohinder named Kryptonite. Mohinder informs Peter and Sylar that he needs both of them to locate and bring back samples of this mysterious green mineral because it is needed to fuse with the "catalyst" that will activate the formula needed to "save the future". In Smallville, they come in contact with Lex Luthor who claims to know where to find what they need. He directs them to the fields near the Kent Farm, within the earth. Instantly, Peter and Sylar teleport there eager to complete their assignment. At his parent's house, Clark (This is him when he first starts working at the Daily Planet) with super hearing notices a disturbance in the fields and with his superspeed, goes out to investigate. He finds Peter and Sylar there and a confrontation insues.

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Conditions:

-Everyone is in Character

-Random Encounter

-No Prep

-Standing 10 feet apart

-No Bystanders

-Battle takes place at Kent Farm:

-Future Peter and Sylar (they've acquired: invisibility, flight, telekinesis, telepathy, precog, radioactive power, space-time manipulation, regeneration, phasing, enhanced strength, electric manipulation, pyrokinesis, super speed)

-Clark is fully rested and it's a sunny day :D

#2 Posted by menaceforever (3693 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

T1

#3 Posted by TERMINATORXX (3900 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

Superman

#4 Edited by Gritterr (407 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@TERMINATORXX said:

Superman

How would Supes win?. Team is way too Diverse. This is a stomp.

#5 Posted by eisjfiejss (384 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

Clark at the end of smallville was powerful, being able to push an entire planet with relative ease, but I don't think having extra strength is a factor here. Clark's most powerful bet is usually his super speed, but both members of team 1 have super speed too. I can only assume Clark loses in this case, because all team 1 has to do is use phasing and invisibility at the same time, and Clark will have no way to hurt them. Then they can use telekinesis, telepathy, and precog to defeat Clark, somehow IMO.

#6 Posted by kingkronos (2501 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

Clark stomps with ease. They can't even see him. And at the end of the series, he pushed a Saturn-sized planet into space. He definitely stomps. He can solo the Heroes-verse.

#7 Edited by Gritterr (407 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@kingkronos said:

Clark stomps with ease. They can't even see him. And at the end of the series, he pushed a Saturn-sized planet into space. He definitely stomps. He can solo the Heroes-verse.

What if They Just stop Time? What if they go intangible how will he hit them? How is He going to defend against a telepathic mind rape? They abosolutly stomp smallville clark here. And as far as speed. Clark never showed anything to suggest that he would be that much faster than the heroes with their super speed

#8 Posted by kingkronos (2501 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@Gritterr said:

@kingkronos said:
Clark stomps with ease. They can't even see him. And at the end of the series, he pushed a Saturn-sized planet into space. He definitely stomps. He can solo the Heroes-verse.
What if They Just stop Time? What if they go intangible how will he hit them? How is He going to defend against a telepathic mind rape? They abosolutly stomp smallville clark here

They wouldn't have the chance to react......

#9 Edited by Gritterr (407 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@kingkronos said:

@Gritterr said:
@kingkronos said:
Clark stomps with ease. They can't even see him. And at the end of the series, he pushed a Saturn-sized planet into space. He definitely stomps. He can solo the Heroes-verse.
What if They Just stop Time? What if they go intangible how will he hit them? How is He going to defend against a telepathic mind rape? They abosolutly stomp smallville clark here
They wouldn't have the chance to react......

They have Super Speed as well. and Smallville Clark never Moved so fast as to suggest they with their speed would not be able to see him. Also Hiro was able to time Freeze a speedster.

#10 Posted by kingkronos (2501 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@Gritterr said:

@kingkronos said:
@Gritterr said:
@kingkronos said:
Clark stomps with ease. They can't even see him. And at the end of the series, he pushed a Saturn-sized planet into space. He definitely stomps. He can solo the Heroes-verse.
What if They Just stop Time? What if they go intangible how will he hit them? How is He going to defend against a telepathic mind rape? They abosolutly stomp smallville clark here
They wouldn't have the chance to react......
They have Super Speed as well. and Smallville Clark never Moved so fast as to suggest they with their speed would not be able to see him. Also Hiro was able to time Freeze a speedster.

Super speed in heroes in a joke compared to smallville Clark.

#11 Edited by Gritterr (407 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@kingkronos said:

@Gritterr said:
@kingkronos said:
@Gritterr said:
@kingkronos said:
Clark stomps with ease. They can't even see him. And at the end of the series, he pushed a Saturn-sized planet into space. He definitely stomps. He can solo the Heroes-verse.
What if They Just stop Time? What if they go intangible how will he hit them? How is He going to defend against a telepathic mind rape? They abosolutly stomp smallville clark here
They wouldn't have the chance to react......
They have Super Speed as well. and Smallville Clark never Moved so fast as to suggest they with their speed would not be able to see him. Also Hiro was able to time Freeze a speedster.
Super speed in heroes in a joke compared to smallville Clark.

All Im saying is Clark never moved fast enough to say the Heroes wouldn't be able to react with their super speed. Is Clark faster? More than likely yes. But worth note is that Daphne with a slight boost was able to time travel she ran so fast. Sylar instantly masters the powers he gains so not a stretch to say he may be faster than Clark here. And in Character Sylar is Far more Likely than Clark to Blitz Here

#12 Posted by kingkronos (2501 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@Gritterr said:

@kingkronos said:
@Gritterr said:
@kingkronos said:
@Gritterr said:
@kingkronos said:
Clark stomps with ease. They can't even see him. And at the end of the series, he pushed a Saturn-sized planet into space. He definitely stomps. He can solo the Heroes-verse.
What if They Just stop Time? What if they go intangible how will he hit them? How is He going to defend against a telepathic mind rape? They abosolutly stomp smallville clark here
They wouldn't have the chance to react......
They have Super Speed as well. and Smallville Clark never Moved so fast as to suggest they with their speed would not be able to see him. Also Hiro was able to time Freeze a speedster.
Super speed in heroes in a joke compared to smallville Clark.
All Im saying is Clark never moved fast enough to say the Heroes wouldn't be able to react with their super speed. Is Clark faster? More than likely yes. But worth note is that Daphne with a slight boost was able to time travel she ran so fast. Sylar instantly masters the powers he gains so not a stretch to say he may be faster than Clark here

Daphne is nowhere near Clark's speed. It actually was stated several times, that Clark is faster than light.

#13 Posted by Gritterr (407 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@kingkronos said:

@Gritterr said:
@kingkronos said:
@Gritterr said:
@kingkronos said:
@Gritterr said:
@kingkronos said:
Clark stomps with ease. They can't even see him. And at the end of the series, he pushed a Saturn-sized planet into space. He definitely stomps. He can solo the Heroes-verse.
What if They Just stop Time? What if they go intangible how will he hit them? How is He going to defend against a telepathic mind rape? They abosolutly stomp smallville clark here
They wouldn't have the chance to react......
They have Super Speed as well. and Smallville Clark never Moved so fast as to suggest they with their speed would not be able to see him. Also Hiro was able to time Freeze a speedster.
Super speed in heroes in a joke compared to smallville Clark.
All Im saying is Clark never moved fast enough to say the Heroes wouldn't be able to react with their super speed. Is Clark faster? More than likely yes. But worth note is that Daphne with a slight boost was able to time travel she ran so fast. Sylar instantly masters the powers he gains so not a stretch to say he may be faster than Clark here
Daphne is nowhere near Clark's speed. It actually was stated several times, that Clark is faster than light.

I agree Clark is faster. Im just saying a Speedblitz isn't going to work here.

#14 Posted by kingkronos (2501 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@Gritterr: Why not?

#15 Posted by Gritterr (407 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

In character I dont even think he would Blitz them. If He does I dont think he is that much faster where it will end the battle. He blitzes one. the other stops time, goes intangible whatever. His Speed advantage isnt big enough to give him the win

#16 Posted by Deranged Midget (13721 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@kingkronos said:

Clark stomps with ease. They can't even see him. And at the end of the series, he pushed a Saturn-sized planet into space. He definitely stomps. He can solo the Heroes-verse.

Did you bother to read the OP? It states this is Clark when he began to work at the Daily Planet i.e end of Season 7, start of Season 8.

Regardless, the team is too versatile to be put down permanently but Clark should be able to knock them both out being faster than anyone in the Heroes universe. The only problem being Peter's time manipulation.

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#17 Posted by kingkronos (2501 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget: Peter won't have the time to react.

#18 Posted by Deranged Midget (13721 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@kingkronos: I know, I agree with that. 10 feet apart is putting into highly into Clark's favour and considering that the Heroes cast lack any durability whatsoever, Clark could flick them both in the head to knock them out. It's kind of embarrassing actually.

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#19 Posted by niBBit (641 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@Gritterr: This.

#20 Posted by Jorgevy (4767 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget said:

@kingkronos: I know, I agree with that. 10 feet apart is putting into highly into Clark's favour and considering that the Heroes cast lack any durability whatsoever, Clark could flick them both in the head to knock them out. It's kind of embarrassing actually.

@kingkronos said:

Super speed in heroes in a joke compared to smallville Clark.

both of this things. And Clark in character totally blitzes but never fatally, but he doesn't have too anyway

#21 Posted by niBBit (641 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

Speed in the Heroes verse is a joke? when Daphne got a boost from Ando she ran so fast she was time traveling. The only speed feat Peter has is from Edgar so he should be able to react to Clark (If he has Edgar's Speed witch is in the final season)

#22 Posted by menaceforever (3693 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

Sylar has a crazy HF. He can get shattered and come ack to life. Punches won't work on him. Then, both could go invisible and Sylar carves out Supes brain......

#23 Edited by Job (425 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

space-time manipulation.....stop time.....time travel.....can even reverse the flow of time for a specific person and or object

regeneration....Can heal from nuke explosions instantly...flash frozen on the molecular level.

phasing....nothing can touch them,....and they've used this ability to remove organs and peoples brains

super speed.... Daphne ran fast enough to out run nuke explosions after theyve gone off..from ground zero... travel from japan to new york in a second....and this is the super speed that Peter took

telekinesis, strong enough to rip apart bank vaults with a twitch....sylar has used it to stop people with super strengh and durability, by cutting off the flow of blood to the brain while suspending them in the air...and clark got owned by it.......

and thats just the powers that are in the OP....they can also transmute people into gold and destroy molecules, fly at mach speeds, and use telepathy

clark wins? LOL

team stomps....10/10

#24 Posted by TERMINATORXX (3900 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@Job: Superman would throw both their asses in the sun and go on about his day, theirs nothing impressive about sylar, but Peter might give supes problems for a bit.

#25 Posted by TERMINATORXX (3900 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@Job

said:

space-time manipulation.....stop time.....time travel.....can even reverse the flow of time for a specific person and or object regeneration....Can heal from nuke explosions instantly...flash frozen on the molecular level. phasing....nothing can touch them,....and they've used this ability to remove organs and peoples brains super speed.... Daphne ran fast enough to out run nuke explosions after theyve gone off..from ground zero... travel from japan to new york in a second....and this is the super speed that Peter took telekinesis, strong enough to rip apart bank vaults with a twitch....sylar has used it to stop people with super strengh and durability, by cutting off the flow of blood to the brain while suspending them in the air...and clark got owned by it....... and thats just the powers that are in the OP....they can also transmute people into gold and destroy molecules, fly at mach speeds, and use telepathy clark wins? LOL team stomps....10/10

Superman destroys planets, I'd love to see proof sylar can do it.

#26 Posted by Deranged Midget (13721 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@Jorgevy said:

And Clark in character totally blitzes but never fatally, but he doesn't have too anyway

Exactly, it's completely in character for him to blitz and he used his super speed against almost every enemy he came up against.

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#27 Posted by Job (425 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@TERMINATORXX said:

@Job: Superman would throw both their asses in the sun and go on about his day, theirs nothing impressive about sylar, but Peter might give supes problems for a bit.

How? They have better stated speed feats than he does. They can phase....stop time....clark isn't even a killer so i dont know why people even waste time with these oh he'll punch their heads offf...oh hell toss them into the sun.... Did you even read the op like he asked? Peter and sylar have the same powers in this fight....and sylar is much more experienced than peter is.

#28 Posted by TERMINATORXX (3900 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@Job said:

@TERMINATORXX said:
@Job: Superman would throw both their asses in the sun and go on about his day, theirs nothing impressive about sylar, but Peter might give supes problems for a bit.
How? They have better stated speed feats than he does. They can phase....stop time....clark isn't even a killer so i dont know why people even waste time with these oh he'll punch their heads offf...oh hell toss them into the sun.... Did you even read the op like he asked? Peter and sylar have the same powers in this fight....and sylar is much more experienced than peter is.

they have the same powers as superman LMAO go figure because without powers they're helpless.... Superman has dealt with bigger problems with sylar and peter.... Then again I could agree with ya for the fact wonder woman kicked supermans ass...lol and sylar would own wonder woman.

Poor Superman.

#29 Posted by menaceforever (3693 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

The lack of Heroes knowledge saddens me.

#30 Posted by Job (425 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@TERMINATORXX: ............and on that note

Peter and sylar stomp

@Deranged Midget said:

@Jorgevy said:
And Clark in character totally blitzes but never fatally, but he doesn't have too anyway
Exactly, it's completely in character for him to blitz and he used his super speed against almost every enemy he came up against.

Peter and sylar have super speed. And the feats of speed in heroes are a lot more impressive than anyone on smallville. They can phase...they can regenerate..and as it has been pointed out ...all clark does is blitz and throw people......this isnt going to do squat to peter and sylar if for some reason they dont use their superior speed to counter...or just out right phase.

#31 Posted by menaceforever (3693 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

Also, Peter and Sylar are both living nukes

#32 Posted by ADAMocracy (132 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

Sylar uses his base power of intuitive aptitude figures out Clarks weakness uses Radiation Manipulation ability and radiates Red Sun energy. Uses his telekinesis to cut clarks unpowered skull off, takes Clarks powers, leaves him for dead. Because Super Sylar.

#33 Posted by Job (425 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@TERMINATORXX: this is smallville superman....why do you keep posting comic book scans? Did you even read the op.. clearly you haven't

#34 Posted by niBBit (641 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@Job: Uhm no... Peter never took the speed from Daphne IIRC only from Edgar who is slower than Daphne. Also Daphne was moving so fast that she traveld back in time is tru but that was because of Ando.

#35 Posted by TERMINATORXX (3900 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@Job said:

@TERMINATORXX: this is smallville superman....why do you keep posting comic book scans? Did you even read the op.. clearly you haven't

Yup your right its the tv show versions so yeah I agree with ya Peter and Sylar would stomp!!! far too powerful for superman....

#36 Posted by Deranged Midget (13721 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@Job: Peter and Sylar have durability. They've been knocked out by blows to the head by regular people such as Claire, Nathan, Matt, and Noah. Clark possess super strength leagues beyond what anyone in the Heroes universe possess. Starting ten feet apart is a massive advantage for Clark considering that both Peter and Sylar lack the reaction speed to counter Clark's speed.

And why bother bringing up Daphne's "superior" speed? No one except Hiro has reacted to her and that's only when he was aware of her and even then, she was still able to move. Clark is even faster than she is.

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#37 Posted by Job (425 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@niBBit said:

@Job: Uhm no... Peter never took the speed from Daphne IIRC only from Edgar who is slower than Daphne. Also Daphne was moving so fast that she traveld back in time is tru but that was because of Ando.

Uhmm yes Peter took speed from Daphne while he was in the exposed future...and even used it to fight her....a whole season before Edgar was even introduced. And did you see me mention Daphne and her ftl speed feat? Or did you see me mention the fact that she crossed continents in a second, and has out ran nuclear explosion s that she was caught off guard by?

#38 Posted by kingkronos (2501 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

Clark moved a Saturn sized planet. It's just beyond anything the heroes verse has. He can just, fly to the space, where no hero character can reach him, and dump earth into another planet. Their powers are irrelevant because Clark is much much faster than Sylar or peter can react. And Hero himself needs to like 5 seconds to stop time. That's enough time for Clark to kill everyone in heroes-verse.

#39 Posted by menaceforever (3693 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

Also, does anyone else remember when Peter by himself was a threat to all of NY.

#40 Posted by niBBit (641 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@Job: Ah i forgot the Future Peter, so yeah i missed the whole continent travel stuff. I remember when Ado amped her power she was able to travel so fast she traveled back in time and watched Ando, herself and Matt having a conversation before Ando zapped her :) damn Future Peter is crazy if he has her speed screw Edgar :)

#41 Posted by menaceforever (3693 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

Also, Future Peter stopped a bullet that was mid point between him and the shooter

#42 Posted by Job (425 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget said:

@Job: Peter and Sylar have durability. They've been knocked out by blows to the head by regular people such as Claire, Nathan, Matt, and Noah. Clark possess super strength leagues beyond what anyone in the Heroes universe possess. Starting ten feet apart is a massive advantage for Clark considering that both Peter and Sylar lack the reaction speed to counter Clark's speed.
And why bother bringing up Daphne's "superior" speed? No one except Hiro has reacted to her and that's only when he was aware of her and even then, she was still able to move. Clark is even faster than she is.

Uhmm no. Peter has used his regeneration to stay conscious from falls that broke every bone in his body...syar has used his telekinesis to enhance his durability when fighting people with Super strength and to protect against bullets. Sylar has stayed conscious through constant lighting strikes strong enough to fry a human being instantly. Peter has stayed conscious after fighting at super speed and crashing into things so hard they pretty much exploded. Nathan, matt, claire nor noah have knocked out Peter or Sylar without aid of a drug, weapon, or the haitian.....What part of They have superior speed to clark did you not understand when you decided to reply to this post? They have better speed than clark..and Sylar without his sped, has shown to has been fast enough to catch bullets with his telekinesis...and now he has the speed and reaction of someone who can out run a nuke, and cross continents in a second.

#43 Posted by niBBit (641 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@menaceforever: Yeah Sylar did so when Mohinder shot him at point blank range, also when Peter shot Arthur, Sylar stopped it mid-air and then fired it at Arthur.

#44 Edited by Job (425 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@niBBit said:

@menaceforever: Yeah Sylar did so when Mohinder shot him at point blank range, also when Peter shot Arthur, Sylar stopped it mid-air and then fired it at Arthur.

Sylar has stopped a bullet after its been fired from a gun every season except season 2 (when he was powerless).Not that it matters because OP gave them both Super speed

#45 Posted by menaceforever (3693 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

I was referring to where Future Clare shot Future Peter before he went back in time.

#46 Posted by niBBit (641 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

Since this is Future Peter...please don't tell me he has Ando's powers to? since he had Daphne's powers and Ando IIRC joined the badguys right?

#47 Posted by Super_Perfect_Cell (102 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

The Heroes team wins. Peter or Sylar could copy Clark's powers and use them against him.

#48 Posted by Deranged Midget (13721 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@Job: Oh yeah, that's why Peter has knocked out Sylar before when both have literally the exact same powers. Sylar has only ever protected himself via telekinesis when he was prepared and ready for what he was up against. Ten feet apart is not enough time to react to Clark's speed before he knocks either of them out. No one in the Heroes universe possess the level of strength that Clark does nor do they even come close to it.

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#49 Edited by Job (425 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget said:

@Job: Oh yeah, that's why Peter has knocked out Sylar before when both have literally the exact same powers. Sylar has only ever protected himself via telekinesis when he was prepared and ready for what he was up against. Ten feet apart is not enough time to react to Clark's speed before he knocks either of them out. No one in the Heroes universe possess the level of strength that Clark does nor do they even come close to it.

You keep making claims and dont mention when...wheres or the hows...it makes me think you're making it up. Peter couldn't even knock out sylar when he snapped his neck . if there's another instance......when..how

Peter and sylar are faster than clark...the end....this is the second time you've ignored this...and im going to take it as you trolling the next time you ignore it and end this conversation.

It doesn't matter how strong Clark is... peter and sylar can phase, and stop time. You can keep talking about how big and strong clark is..it doesn't matter against a group of dudes who can transmute people, destroy molecules, and heal from just about any attack.....and it certainly wont matter seeing as clark would never use his full strength on a human.

So you can keep spamming clark blitz....peter and sylar are faster......you can keep spamming clark strong...peter and sylar cant be touched...

#50 Posted by TERMINATORXX (3900 posts) - 10 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@Job: dont ya just love superman threads like this and all the superman fanboys come along and try to root for superman and make up stuff that superman could do and whatever and not provide proof...lol