#51 Posted by Samurai X (580 posts) - - Show Bio
@Shikarenji said:
" @Samurai X: he was still living . even though it was only that piece of his face he was still alive. Goku at ss3 had reality distortion , as it was said that at that power level reality distortion is possible ( ie majin buu turning stuff to chocalate, and gotenks turning thing to volleyballs). "
Goku never had reality warping abilities
#52 Posted by FLCL1 (9479 posts) - - Show Bio
@Omega-level Supreme said:
"X Men and the Brotherhood. "

duh
#53 Edited by Grand Ninja (2606 posts) - - Show Bio
@Hellos said:

" Cell gets mind wiped. "

how? his consciousness are programed so the only one who can really mind wipe him is magneto. though the bio-organic side of him may seem invulrable to any sort of mind attack, it would still be futile bc cell is a collective of millions of other consciousness.
#54 Posted by thedarkgodzz (125 posts) - - Show Bio

Cell may not at 100 class strengh but dont forget that cell able to destroy planet and cell no need to fight with juggernaut Cell just need to destroy the planet and any living being will die including jugger and jugger wont ever able to touch cell because of cell speed

#55 Edited by Hellos (8870 posts) - - Show Bio
@thedarkgodzz said:

"Cell may not at 100 class strengh but dont forget that cell able to destroy planet and cell no need to fight with juggernaut Cell just need to destroy the planet and any living being will die including jugger and jugger wont ever able to touch cell because of cell speed "


He would still be very much alive, no matter what Cell does to Juggernaut, he will live.  
Best bet for Juggs is BFR, but still I am thinking Cell gets mind raped long before this happens, the andriods / cell never actually had the chance to face a telepath especially on the level of the Telepaths on the X team, so theres really no reason to assume outright, considering the guy seemed very much a biological life form with a humanoid mind he wouldn't get mind raped.
#56 Edited by Mortein (4030 posts) - - Show Bio

Cell would easily destroy most of them with a single ki blast, they wouldn't even have time to react. Those who would survive he could as easily BFR with his TK. end

#57 Posted by Samurai X (580 posts) - - Show Bio
@Grand Ninja said:
" @Hellos said:

" Cell gets mind wiped. "

how? his consciousness are programed so the only one who can really mind wipe him is magneto. though the bio-organic side of him may seem invulrable to any sort of mind attack, it would still be futile bc cell is a collective of millions of other consciousness. "
When was this once ever stated? Oh thats right, never
 
Cell isnt the collective of millions of consiousness either, seriously can you people cut the crap
#58 Posted by SgtRYNO (170 posts) - - Show Bio
@FangNthunder: not that Ridleyz is trying to play down cells strength i think, its just that even if cell is superfast, and supes strong, if juggernaut is even moving the slightest bit forward by the time cell hits him, he wil not send him into orbit cause of one reason. NOTHING CAN STOP THE JUGERNAUT! now cell might lose this battle if he does not kep his composure, because the x-men have powers that entail the physical, elemental, energy projection, and most of all mental. magneto could freeze cell inplace by holding his iron in his blood, while you had berserkers like juggs, colosus, and wolverine up close, with long range atrie like ice man storm, cyclops blasting him and then xavier jean gray, and psylocke assaulting him on the mental plain. The fair win the x-men/brotherhood, because they have faced massively powerful enemies befor, and have only succeeded due to their teamwork, and aptitude for combing their abilities to the maximum effect on all fronts.
#59 Posted by Baldy (4963 posts) - - Show Bio

Too many omega mutants for Cell to handle.

#60 Posted by Just Because Im Obsessive (655 posts) - - Show Bio

Too many omega mutants with no speed 
 
Cell will kill 90% of the team before they knew the fight started 
 
Cell is a freaking android so no mindjobs for him 
  
either juggs just quits after he cant hit cell just like ultra trunks vs cell...or he gets absorbed. 
 
 
cell wins
#61 Posted by Grand Ninja (2606 posts) - - Show Bio
@Samurai X said:
" @Grand Ninja said:
" @Hellos said:

" Cell gets mind wiped. "

how? his consciousness are programed so the only one who can really mind wipe him is magneto. though the bio-organic side of him may seem invulrable to any sort of mind attack, it would still be futile bc cell is a collective of millions of other consciousness. "
When was this once ever stated? Oh thats right, never  Cell isnt the collective of millions of consiousness either, seriously can you people cut the crap "
he absorbed millions of people. if you don't anything about it, why be in this thread?
#62 Posted by Samurai X (580 posts) - - Show Bio
@Grand Ninja said:
" @Samurai X said:
" @Grand Ninja said:
" @Hellos said:

" Cell gets mind wiped. "

how? his consciousness are programed so the only one who can really mind wipe him is magneto. though the bio-organic side of him may seem invulrable to any sort of mind attack, it would still be futile bc cell is a collective of millions of other consciousness. "
When was this once ever stated? Oh thats right, never  Cell isnt the collective of millions of consiousness either, seriously can you people cut the crap "
he absorbed millions of people. if you don't anything about it, why be in this thread? "
In no way shape or form does that mean he has the collective of millions of consciousnesses 
I think its you that has no clue what hes talking about
#63 Posted by Baldy (4963 posts) - - Show Bio
@Just Because Im Obsessive said:
" Too many omega mutants with no speed  Cell will kill 90% of the team before they knew the fight started  Cell is a freaking android so no mindjobs for him   either juggs just quits after he cant hit cell just like ultra trunks vs cell...or he gets absorbed.   cell wins "
I think this whole battle comes down to FTL. If you believe he is FTL then I guess he wins, otherwise he can't.
 
I personally don't think he has FTL movement.
#64 Posted by evodmasters (593 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmmm.. going to need the rosters here.

#65 Posted by Baldy (4963 posts) - - Show Bio
@Just Because Im Obsessive said:
" Too many omega mutants with no speed  Cell will kill 90% of the team before they knew the fight started  Cell is a freaking android so no mindjobs for him   either juggs just quits after he cant hit cell just like ultra trunks vs cell...or he gets absorbed.   cell wins "
He's biological and has never been shown to be immune to mind rape.
#66 Posted by Grand Ninja (2606 posts) - - Show Bio
@Samurai X said:
" @Grand Ninja said:
" @Samurai X said:
" @Grand Ninja said:
" @Hellos said:

" Cell gets mind wiped. "

how? his consciousness are programed so the only one who can really mind wipe him is magneto. though the bio-organic side of him may seem invulrable to any sort of mind attack, it would still be futile bc cell is a collective of millions of other consciousness. "
When was this once ever stated? Oh thats right, never  Cell isnt the collective of millions of consiousness either, seriously can you people cut the crap "
he absorbed millions of people. if you don't anything about it, why be in this thread? "
In no way shape or form does that mean he has the collective of millions of consciousnesses  I think its you that has no clue what hes talking about "
piccolo just said while he saw and heard, the screaming of millions of souls. souls are a form of consciousness.
#67 Posted by Baldy (4963 posts) - - Show Bio
@Grand Ninja said:
" @Samurai X said:
" @Grand Ninja said:
" @Samurai X said:
" @Grand Ninja said:
" @Hellos said:

" Cell gets mind wiped. "

how? his consciousness are programed so the only one who can really mind wipe him is magneto. though the bio-organic side of him may seem invulrable to any sort of mind attack, it would still be futile bc cell is a collective of millions of other consciousness. "
When was this once ever stated? Oh thats right, never  Cell isnt the collective of millions of consiousness either, seriously can you people cut the crap "
he absorbed millions of people. if you don't anything about it, why be in this thread? "
In no way shape or form does that mean he has the collective of millions of consciousnesses  I think its you that has no clue what hes talking about "
piccolo just said while he saw and heard, the screaming of millions of souls. souls are a form of consciousness. "
Speculation you have no idea what effect this would have on mind rape, if any. He doesn't have any feats that suggest that he is somehow immune to it.
#68 Edited by Mortein (4030 posts) - - Show Bio
@Baldy said:

" @Grand Ninja said:

" @Samurai X said:

" @Grand Ninja said:

" @Samurai X said:
" @Grand Ninja said:
" @Hellos said:

" Cell gets mind wiped. "

how? his consciousness are programed so the only one who can really mind wipe him is magneto. though the bio-organic side of him may seem invulrable to any sort of mind attack, it would still be futile bc cell is a collective of millions of other consciousness. "
When was this once ever stated? Oh thats right, never  Cell isnt the collective of millions of consiousness either, seriously can you people cut the crap "
he absorbed millions of people. if you don't anything about it, why be in this thread? "
In no way shape or form does that mean he has the collective of millions of consciousnesses  I think its you that has no clue what hes talking about "
piccolo just said while he saw and heard, the screaming of millions of souls. souls are a form of consciousness. "
Speculation you have no idea what effect this would have on mind rape, if any. He doesn't have any feats that suggest that he is somehow immune to it. "
mind reaping is always a risk, specially when you are mind reaping someone like Cell. Personally, I think it is more likely they could mind rape him, but they wouldn't have time to react. Regardless if he is FTL or just hundreds of times faster then sound, they wont be able to do anything before he kills them. Some of them would survive but he could easily BFR them with his telekinetic powers.
#69 Posted by Baldy (4963 posts) - - Show Bio
@Mortein said:
" @Baldy said:

" @Grand Ninja said:

" @Samurai X said:

" @Grand Ninja said:

" @Samurai X said:
" @Grand Ninja said:
" @Hellos said:

" Cell gets mind wiped. "

how? his consciousness are programed so the only one who can really mind wipe him is magneto. though the bio-organic side of him may seem invulrable to any sort of mind attack, it would still be futile bc cell is a collective of millions of other consciousness. "
When was this once ever stated? Oh thats right, never  Cell isnt the collective of millions of consiousness either, seriously can you people cut the crap "
he absorbed millions of people. if you don't anything about it, why be in this thread? "
In no way shape or form does that mean he has the collective of millions of consciousnesses  I think its you that has no clue what hes talking about "
piccolo just said while he saw and heard, the screaming of millions of souls. souls are a form of consciousness. "
Speculation you have no idea what effect this would have on mind rape, if any. He doesn't have any feats that suggest that he is somehow immune to it. "
mind reaping is always a risk, specially when you are mind reaping someone like Cell. Personally, I think it is more likely they could mind rape him, but they wouldn't have time to react. Regardless if he is FTL or just hundreds of times faster then sound, they wont be able to do anything before he kills them. Some of them would survive but he could easily BFR them with his telekinetic powers.
"
Why would it be risky? He has never shown resistance to it. Where does it show him being hundreds of times the speed of sound?
#70 Posted by Mortein (4030 posts) - - Show Bio
@Baldy said:

" @Mortein said:

" @Baldy said:

" @Grand Ninja said:

" @Samurai X said:

" @Grand Ninja said:

" @Samurai X said:

" @Grand Ninja said:
" @Hellos said:

" Cell gets mind wiped. "

how? his consciousness are programed so the only one who can really mind wipe him is magneto. though the bio-organic side of him may seem invulrable to any sort of mind attack, it would still be futile bc cell is a collective of millions of other consciousness. "
When was this once ever stated? Oh thats right, never  Cell isnt the collective of millions of consiousness either, seriously can you people cut the crap "
he absorbed millions of people. if you don't anything about it, why be in this thread? "
In no way shape or form does that mean he has the collective of millions of consciousnesses  I think its you that has no clue what hes talking about "
piccolo just said while he saw and heard, the screaming of millions of souls. souls are a form of consciousness. "
Speculation you have no idea what effect this would have on mind rape, if any. He doesn't have any feats that suggest that he is somehow immune to it. "
mind reaping is always a risk, specially when you are mind reaping someone like Cell. Personally, I think it is more likely they could mind rape him, but they wouldn't have time to react. Regardless if he is FTL or just hundreds of times faster then sound, they wont be able to do anything before he kills them. Some of them would survive but he could easily BFR them with his telekinetic powers.
"
Why would it be risky? He has never shown resistance to it. Where does it show him being hundreds of times the speed of sound? "
When Cell first time appeared they said they are sensing Frieza, goku, Vegeta, Cold ect. inside him, and that was before he absorbed millions of peoples. Cell can split him self in 4 just like Tien which should make it more complicated for them to mind rape him. he can make Cell kids, so even if they mind rape him Cell kids would kill them.
Cell was never attacked with mental attack so we cannot be sure what would happen. I think they probably could mind rape him if they had a time, but it wouldn't be as easy as you make it sound.
 
 

Goku after his training with King Kai traveled for 2 days from one end of Snake way to the other. Snake way was

long which means, Goku at PL 5000 can fly around speed mach 17.

It was stated that snake way is 1 000 000km long here:

And it was confirmed when it took him 6 months to get to King Kai. If you do a calculations you would see it was around 1 000 000km, or even longer.
KK increases your speed, most likely doubles it, and Goku was able to perform KKx20.
Goku KKx20 is much slower then SSJ goku, who is much slower then Full powered SSJ goku from cell games, who is slower then Cell.

#71 Posted by Baldy (4963 posts) - - Show Bio
@Mortein said:
" @Baldy said:

" @Mortein said:

" @Baldy said:

" @Grand Ninja said:

" @Samurai X said:

" @Grand Ninja said:

" @Samurai X said:

" @Grand Ninja said:
" @Hellos said:

" Cell gets mind wiped. "

how? his consciousness are programed so the only one who can really mind wipe him is magneto. though the bio-organic side of him may seem invulrable to any sort of mind attack, it would still be futile bc cell is a collective of millions of other consciousness. "
When was this once ever stated? Oh thats right, never  Cell isnt the collective of millions of consiousness either, seriously can you people cut the crap "
he absorbed millions of people. if you don't anything about it, why be in this thread? "
In no way shape or form does that mean he has the collective of millions of consciousnesses  I think its you that has no clue what hes talking about "
piccolo just said while he saw and heard, the screaming of millions of souls. souls are a form of consciousness. "
Speculation you have no idea what effect this would have on mind rape, if any. He doesn't have any feats that suggest that he is somehow immune to it. "
mind reaping is always a risk, specially when you are mind reaping someone like Cell. Personally, I think it is more likely they could mind rape him, but they wouldn't have time to react. Regardless if he is FTL or just hundreds of times faster then sound, they wont be able to do anything before he kills them. Some of them would survive but he could easily BFR them with his telekinetic powers.
"
Why would it be risky? He has never shown resistance to it. Where does it show him being hundreds of times the speed of sound? "
When Cell first time appeared they said they are sensing Frieza, goku, Vegeta, Cold ect. inside him, and that was before he absorbed millions of peoples. Cell can split him self in 4 just like Tien which should make it more complicated for them to mind rape him. he can make Cell kids, so even if they mind rape him Cell kids would kill them.
Cell was never attacked with mental attack so we cannot be sure what would happen. I think they probably could mind rape him if they had a time, but it wouldn't be as easy as you make it sound.
 
 

Goku after his training with King Kai traveled for 2 days from one end of Snake way to the other. Snake way was

long which means, Goku at PL 5000 can fly around speed mach 17.

It was stated that snake way is 1 000 000km long here:

And it was confirmed when it took him 6 months to get to King Kai. If you do a calculations you would see it was around 1 000 000km, or even longer.
KK increases your speed, most likely doubles it, and Goku was able to perform KKx20.
Goku KKx20 is much slower then SSJ goku, who is much slower then Full powered SSJ goku from cell games, who is slower then Cell.

"
Most of this post is complete speculation, even the guy telling goku the length obviously doesn't know as he has to base his guess on some vague legend.
 
Cell Jrs are weak, even Gohan owns them. I don't see what splitting into four has to do with mental resistance? What does absorbing people have to do with mental resistance?
#72 Posted by Mortein (4030 posts) - - Show Bio
@Baldy said:
" @Mortein said:
" @Baldy said:

" @Mortein said:

" @Baldy said:

" @Grand Ninja said:

" @Samurai X said:

" @Grand Ninja said:

" @Samurai X said:

" @Grand Ninja said:
" @Hellos said:

" Cell gets mind wiped. "

how? his consciousness are programed so the only one who can really mind wipe him is magneto. though the bio-organic side of him may seem invulrable to any sort of mind attack, it would still be futile bc cell is a collective of millions of other consciousness. "
When was this once ever stated? Oh thats right, never  Cell isnt the collective of millions of consiousness either, seriously can you people cut the crap "
he absorbed millions of people. if you don't anything about it, why be in this thread? "
In no way shape or form does that mean he has the collective of millions of consciousnesses  I think its you that has no clue what hes talking about "
piccolo just said while he saw and heard, the screaming of millions of souls. souls are a form of consciousness. "
Speculation you have no idea what effect this would have on mind rape, if any. He doesn't have any feats that suggest that he is somehow immune to it. "
mind reaping is always a risk, specially when you are mind reaping someone like Cell. Personally, I think it is more likely they could mind rape him, but they wouldn't have time to react. Regardless if he is FTL or just hundreds of times faster then sound, they wont be able to do anything before he kills them. Some of them would survive but he could easily BFR them with his telekinetic powers.
"
Why would it be risky? He has never shown resistance to it. Where does it show him being hundreds of times the speed of sound? "
When Cell first time appeared they said they are sensing Frieza, goku, Vegeta, Cold ect. inside him, and that was before he absorbed millions of peoples. Cell can split him self in 4 just like Tien which should make it more complicated for them to mind rape him. he can make Cell kids, so even if they mind rape him Cell kids would kill them.
Cell was never attacked with mental attack so we cannot be sure what would happen. I think they probably could mind rape him if they had a time, but it wouldn't be as easy as you make it sound.
 
 

Goku after his training with King Kai traveled for 2 days from one end of Snake way to the other. Snake way was

long which means, Goku at PL 5000 can fly around speed mach 17.

It was stated that snake way is 1 000 000km long here:

And it was confirmed when it took him 6 months to get to King Kai. If you do a calculations you would see it was around 1 000 000km, or even longer.
KK increases your speed, most likely doubles it, and Goku was able to perform KKx20.
Goku KKx20 is much slower then SSJ goku, who is much slower then Full powered SSJ goku from cell games, who is slower then Cell.

"
Most of this post is complete speculation, even the guy telling goku the length obviously doesn't know as he has to base his guess on some vague legend.  Cell Jrs are weak, even Gohan owns them. I don't see what splitting into four has to do with mental resistance? What does absorbing people have to do with mental resistance? "
It took goku 6 moths to get to the other end of snake way. How fast do you think Goku from the end of DB is?
Almost nothing about DBZ is certain. Do I know  how fast Cell is? NO I dont, but this is the best possible way to determine that, and it is the the closest to truth we can get. 
#73 Posted by Baldy (4963 posts) - - Show Bio
@Mortein said:
" @Baldy said:
" @Mortein said:
" @Baldy said:

" @Mortein said:

" @Baldy said:

" @Grand Ninja said:

" @Samurai X said:

" @Grand Ninja said:

" @Samurai X said:

" @Grand Ninja said:
" @Hellos said:

" Cell gets mind wiped. "

how? his consciousness are programed so the only one who can really mind wipe him is magneto. though the bio-organic side of him may seem invulrable to any sort of mind attack, it would still be futile bc cell is a collective of millions of other consciousness. "
When was this once ever stated? Oh thats right, never  Cell isnt the collective of millions of consiousness either, seriously can you people cut the crap "
he absorbed millions of people. if you don't anything about it, why be in this thread? "
In no way shape or form does that mean he has the collective of millions of consciousnesses  I think its you that has no clue what hes talking about "
piccolo just said while he saw and heard, the screaming of millions of souls. souls are a form of consciousness. "
Speculation you have no idea what effect this would have on mind rape, if any. He doesn't have any feats that suggest that he is somehow immune to it. "
mind reaping is always a risk, specially when you are mind reaping someone like Cell. Personally, I think it is more likely they could mind rape him, but they wouldn't have time to react. Regardless if he is FTL or just hundreds of times faster then sound, they wont be able to do anything before he kills them. Some of them would survive but he could easily BFR them with his telekinetic powers.
"
Why would it be risky? He has never shown resistance to it. Where does it show him being hundreds of times the speed of sound? "
When Cell first time appeared they said they are sensing Frieza, goku, Vegeta, Cold ect. inside him, and that was before he absorbed millions of peoples. Cell can split him self in 4 just like Tien which should make it more complicated for them to mind rape him. he can make Cell kids, so even if they mind rape him Cell kids would kill them.
Cell was never attacked with mental attack so we cannot be sure what would happen. I think they probably could mind rape him if they had a time, but it wouldn't be as easy as you make it sound.
 
 

Goku after his training with King Kai traveled for 2 days from one end of Snake way to the other. Snake way was

long which means, Goku at PL 5000 can fly around speed mach 17.

It was stated that snake way is 1 000 000km long here:

And it was confirmed when it took him 6 months to get to King Kai. If you do a calculations you would see it was around 1 000 000km, or even longer.
KK increases your speed, most likely doubles it, and Goku was able to perform KKx20.
Goku KKx20 is much slower then SSJ goku, who is much slower then Full powered SSJ goku from cell games, who is slower then Cell.

"
Most of this post is complete speculation, even the guy telling goku the length obviously doesn't know as he has to base his guess on some vague legend.  Cell Jrs are weak, even Gohan owns them. I don't see what splitting into four has to do with mental resistance? What does absorbing people have to do with mental resistance? "
It took goku 6 moths to get to the other end of snake way. How fast do you think Goku from the end of DB is? Almost nothing about DBZ is certain. Do I know  how fast Cell is? NO I dont, but this is the best possible way to determine that, and it is the the closest to truth we can get.  "
So what you're saying then is that he doesn't move hundreds of times the speed of sound. Right, gotcha.
 
Cell loses.
#74 Edited by Mortein (4030 posts) - - Show Bio
@Baldy said:

" @Mortein said:

" @Baldy said:


Why would it be risky? He has never shown resistance to it. Where does it show him being hundreds of times the speed of sound? "
When Cell first time appeared they said they are sensing Frieza, goku, Vegeta, Cold ect. inside him, and that was before he absorbed millions of peoples. Cell can split him self in 4 just like Tien which should make it more complicated for them to mind rape him. he can make Cell kids, so even if they mind rape him Cell kids would kill them.
Cell was never attacked with mental attack so we cannot be sure what would happen. I think they probably could mind rape him if they had a time, but it wouldn't be as easy as you make it sound.
 
 

Goku after his training with King Kai traveled for 2 days from one end of Snake way to the other. Snake way was

long which means, Goku at PL 5000 can fly around speed mach 17.

It was stated that snake way is 1 000 000km long here:

And it was confirmed when it took him 6 months to get to King Kai. If you do a calculations you would see it was around 1 000 000km, or even longer.
KK increases your speed, most likely doubles it, and Goku was able to perform KKx20.
Goku KKx20 is much slower then SSJ goku, who is much slower then Full powered SSJ goku from cell games, who is slower then Cell.

"

Most of this post is complete speculation, even the guy telling goku the length obviously doesn't know as he has to base his guess on some vague legend.  Cell Jrs are weak, even Gohan owns them. I don't see what splitting into four has to do with mental resistance? What does absorbing people have to do with mental resistance? "
It took goku 6 moths to get to the other end of snake way. How fast do you think Goku from the end of DB is? Almost nothing about DBZ is certain. Do I know  how fast Cell is? NO I dont, but this is the best possible way to determine that, and it is the the closest to truth we can get.  "
So what you're saying then is that he doesn't move hundreds of times the speed of sound. Right, gotcha.  Cell loses. "
I dont think he is moveing hundreds of times the speed of sound, I think he is much faster then that
#75 Posted by Baldy (4963 posts) - - Show Bio
@Mortein said:
" @Baldy said:
" @Mortein said:
" @Baldy said:


Why would it be risky? He has never shown resistance to it. Where does it show him being hundreds of times the speed of sound? "
When Cell first time appeared they said they are sensing Frieza, goku, Vegeta, Cold ect. inside him, and that was before he absorbed millions of peoples. Cell can split him self in 4 just like Tien which should make it more complicated for them to mind rape him. he can make Cell kids, so even if they mind rape him Cell kids would kill them.
Cell was never attacked with mental attack so we cannot be sure what would happen. I think they probably could mind rape him if they had a time, but it wouldn't be as easy as you make it sound.
 
 

Goku after his training with King Kai traveled for 2 days from one end of Snake way to the other. Snake way was

long which means, Goku at PL 5000 can fly around speed mach 17.

It was stated that snake way is 1 000 000km long here:

And it was confirmed when it took him 6 months to get to King Kai. If you do a calculations you would see it was around 1 000 000km, or even longer.
KK increases your speed, most likely doubles it, and Goku was able to perform KKx20.
Goku KKx20 is much slower then SSJ goku, who is much slower then Full powered SSJ goku from cell games, who is slower then Cell.

"

Most of this post is complete speculation, even the guy telling goku the length obviously doesn't know as he has to base his guess on some vague legend.  Cell Jrs are weak, even Gohan owns them. I don't see what splitting into four has to do with mental resistance? What does absorbing people have to do with mental resistance? "
It took goku 6 moths to get to the other end of snake way. How fast do you think Goku from the end of DB is? Almost nothing about DBZ is certain. Do I know  how fast Cell is? NO I dont, but this is the best possible way to determine that, and it is the the closest to truth we can get.  "
So what you're saying then is that he doesn't move hundreds of times the speed of sound. Right, gotcha.  Cell loses. "
I dont think he is moveing hundreds of times the speed of sound, I think he is much faster then that "
Not without feats he isn't.
#76 Posted by thegreat (187 posts) - - Show Bio

How would Cell get mindraped. He has hundreds of souls inside him, making his mind more warped than Hulk. Also if every single Cell inside him is alive and exists as if it was a seperate being, it would be dang hard. Even when he lost android 18 and had 1 cell that cell was able to think for itself and remember how it once was, it was also able to fuse with goku, and learn his new moves, then it regenerated. 
 
When cell was imperfect he absorbed many lives, now if mystique can withstand Xavier's mindcontrol with pure willpower, to say Cell can't is disgraceful. Cell has Kami and picollo's genes, and guess what Kami who was able to possess an individual completely did noteven attempt to do so on Cell, most likely because he did not think that it would work, (or you know PIS).
#77 Edited by Mortein (4030 posts) - - Show Bio
@Baldy said:

" @Mortein said:

" @Baldy said:
" @Mortein said:
" @Baldy said:


Why would it be risky? He has never shown resistance to it. Where does it show him being hundreds of times the speed of sound? "
When Cell first time appeared they said they are sensing Frieza, goku, Vegeta, Cold ect. inside him, and that was before he absorbed millions of peoples. Cell can split him self in 4 just like Tien which should make it more complicated for them to mind rape him. he can make Cell kids, so even if they mind rape him Cell kids would kill them.
Cell was never attacked with mental attack so we cannot be sure what would happen. I think they probably could mind rape him if they had a time, but it wouldn't be as easy as you make it sound.
 
 

Goku after his training with King Kai traveled for 2 days from one end of Snake way to the other. Snake way was

long which means, Goku at PL 5000 can fly around speed mach 17.

It was stated that snake way is 1 000 000km long here:

And it was confirmed when it took him 6 months to get to King Kai. If you do a calculations you would see it was around 1 000 000km, or even longer.
KK increases your speed, most likely doubles it, and Goku was able to perform KKx20.
Goku KKx20 is much slower then SSJ goku, who is much slower then Full powered SSJ goku from cell games, who is slower then Cell.

"

Most of this post is complete speculation, even the guy telling goku the length obviously doesn't know as he has to base his guess on some vague legend.  Cell Jrs are weak, even 
Gohan owns them. I don't see what splitting into four has to do with mental resistance? What does absorbing people have to do with mental resistance? "
It took goku 6 moths to get to the other end of snake way. How fast do you think Goku from the end of DB is? Almost nothing about DBZ is certain. Do I know  how fast Cell is? NO I dont, but this is the best possible way to determine that, and it is the the closest to truth we can get.  "
So what you're saying then is that he doesn't move hundreds of times the speed of sound. Right, gotcha.  Cell loses. "
I dont think he is moveing hundreds of times the speed of sound, I think he is much faster then that "
Not without feats he isn't. "
But he has lots of feats that shows us he is much faster then full powered saiyans
#78 Posted by thegreat (187 posts) - - Show Bio
@Mortein said:
"@Baldy said:

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Why would it be risky? He has never shown resistance to it. Where does it show him being hundreds of times the speed of sound? "
When Cell first time appeared they said they are sensing Frieza, goku, Vegeta, Cold ect. inside him, and that was before he absorbed millions of peoples. Cell can split him self in 4 just like Tien which should make it more complicated for them to mind rape him. he can make Cell kids, so even if they mind rape him Cell kids would kill them.
Cell was never attacked with mental attack so we cannot be sure what would happen. I think they probably could mind rape him if they had a time, but it wouldn't be as easy as you make it sound.
 
 
 

Goku after his training with King Kai traveled for 2 days from one end of Snake way to the other. Snake way was

long which means, Goku at PL 5000 can fly around speed mach 17.

It was stated that snake way is 1 000 000km long here:

And it was confirmed when it took him 6 months to get to King Kai. If you do a calculations you would see it was around 1 000 000km, or even longer.
KK increases your speed, most likely doubles it, and Goku was able to perform KKx20.
Goku KKx20 is much slower then SSJ goku, who is much slower then Full powered SSJ goku from cell games, who is slower then Cell.

"

Most of this post is complete speculation, even the guy telling goku the length obviously doesn't know as he has to base his guess on some vague legend.  Cell Jrs are weak, even 
Gohan owns them. I don't see what splitting into four has to do with mental resistance? What does absorbing people have to do with mental resistance? "
It took goku 6 moths to get to the other end of snake way. How fast do you think Goku from the end of DB is? Almost nothing about DBZ is certain. Do I know  how fast Cell is? NO I dont, but this is the best possible way to determine that, and it is the the closest to truth we can get.  "
So what you're saying then is that he doesn't move hundreds of times the speed of sound. Right, gotcha.  Cell loses. "
I dont think he is moveing hundreds of times the speed of sound, I think he is much faster then that "
Not without feats he isn't. "
 
But he has lots of feats that shows us he is much faster then full powered saiyans "

 
 
 
 
 
They know that what you are saying i true they are just hoping that they can convince you without presenting any facts. Notice that it is us who on every thread have to show scans just to stay in the thread, when they don't do jack.
#79 Posted by Baldy (4963 posts) - - Show Bio
@thegreat said:
" @Mortein said:
"@Baldy said:

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" @Baldy said:
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Why would it be risky? He has never shown resistance to it. Where does it show him being hundreds of times the speed of sound? "
When Cell first time appeared they said they are sensing Frieza, goku, Vegeta, Cold ect. inside him, and that was before he absorbed millions of peoples. Cell can split him self in 4 just like Tien which should make it more complicated for them to mind rape him. he can make Cell kids, so even if they mind rape him Cell kids would kill them.
Cell was never attacked with mental attack so we cannot be sure what would happen. I think they probably could mind rape him if they had a time, but it wouldn't be as easy as you make it sound.
 
 

Goku after his training with King Kai traveled for 2 days from one end of Snake way to the other. Snake way was

long which means, Goku at PL 5000 can fly around speed mach 17.

It was stated that snake way is 1 000 000km long here:

And it was confirmed when it took him 6 months to get to King Kai. If you do a calculations you would see it was around 1 000 000km, or even longer.
KK increases your speed, most likely doubles it, and Goku was able to perform KKx20.
Goku KKx20 is much slower then SSJ goku, who is much slower then Full powered SSJ goku from cell games, who is slower then Cell.

"

Most of this post is complete speculation, even the guy telling goku the length obviously doesn't know as he has to base his guess on some vague legend.  Cell Jrs are weak, even 
Gohan owns them. I don't see what splitting into four has to do with mental resistance? What does absorbing people have to do with mental resistance? "
It took goku 6 moths to get to the other end of snake way. How fast do you think Goku from the end of DB is? Almost nothing about DBZ is certain. Do I know  how fast Cell is? NO I dont, but this is the best possible way to determine that, and it is the the closest to truth we can get.  "
So what you're saying then is that he doesn't move hundreds of times the speed of sound. Right, gotcha.  Cell loses. "
I dont think he is moveing hundreds of times the speed of sound, I think he is much faster then that "
Not without feats he isn't. "
But he has lots of feats that shows us he is much faster then full powered saiyans "
     They know that what you are saying i true they are just hoping that they can convince you without presenting any facts. Notice that it is us who on every thread have to show scans just to stay in the thread, when they don't do jack. "
That's because you people keep making claims with no evidence. All of this is speculation and thus completely invalid.
#80 Edited by Mortein (4030 posts) - - Show Bio
@Baldy said:

" @thegreat said:

"at "

Not without feats he isn't. "
But he has lots of feats that shows us he is much faster then full powered saiyans "
     They know that what you are saying i true they are just hoping that they can convince you without presenting any facts. Notice that it is us who on every thread have to show scans just to stay in the thread, when they don't do jack. "
That's because you people keep making claims with no evidence. All of this is speculation and thus completely invalid. " 

I guess you have a better way to determine approximately how fast Cell should be? Let me hear your theory and if it is better then mine I will change my opinion.
#81 Posted by krisboyz781 (1163 posts) - - Show Bio

cell loses badly. he would be able to beat people like storm,wolverine, and cyclops. but juggs and magneto would stomp him

#82 Posted by Mortein (4030 posts) - - Show Bio
@krisboyz781 said:
" cell loses badly. he would be able to beat people like storm,wolverine, and cyclops. but juggs and magneto would stomp him "
How would Mags survive Cells KI blast? He can barely survive atom bomb.
And why couldn't he BFR juggernaut with his telekinetic abilities?
#83 Posted by Baldy (4963 posts) - - Show Bio
@Mortein said:
" @Baldy said:

" @thegreat said:

"at "

Not without feats he isn't. "
But he has lots of feats that shows us he is much faster then full powered saiyans "
     They know that what you are saying i true they are just hoping that they can convince you without presenting any facts. Notice that it is us who on every thread have to show scans just to stay in the thread, when they don't do jack. "
That's because you people keep making claims with no evidence. All of this is speculation and thus completely invalid. " 

I guess you have a better way to determine approximately how fast Cell should be? Let me hear your theory and if it is better then mine I will change my opinion. "
It's your claim, burden of proof lies with you. By proof I don't mean random fan bias based guesses.
#84 Posted by Mortein (4030 posts) - - Show Bio
@Baldy said:
" @Mortein said:
" @Baldy said:

" @thegreat said:

"at "

Not without feats he isn't. "
But he has lots of feats that shows us he is much faster then full powered saiyans "
     They know that what you are saying i true they are just hoping that they can convince you without presenting any facts. Notice that it is us who on every thread have to show scans just to stay in the thread, when they don't do jack. "
That's because you people keep making claims with no evidence. All of this is speculation and thus completely invalid. " 

I guess you have a better way to determine approximately how fast Cell should be? Let me hear your theory and if it is better then mine I will change my opinion. "
It's your claim, burden of proof lies with you. By proof I don't mean random fan bias based guesses. "
I am trying to determine how fast Cell is in oder to determine outcome of this battle, and since we do not know how fast Cell is we have to make theories. I have told you mine theory about Cells speed, but yet have to hear yours.
#85 Posted by Baldy (4963 posts) - - Show Bio
@Mortein said:
" @Baldy said:
" @Mortein said:
" @Baldy said:

" @thegreat said:

"at "

Not without feats he isn't. "
But he has lots of feats that shows us he is much faster then full powered saiyans "
     They know that what you are saying i true they are just hoping that they can convince you without presenting any facts. Notice that it is us who on every thread have to show scans just to stay in the thread, when they don't do jack. "
That's because you people keep making claims with no evidence. All of this is speculation and thus completely invalid. " 

I guess you have a better way to determine approximately how fast Cell should be? Let me hear your theory and if it is better then mine I will change my opinion. "
It's your claim, burden of proof lies with you. By proof I don't mean random fan bias based guesses. "
I am trying to determine how fast Cell is in oder to determine outcome of this battle, and since we do not know how fast Cell is we have to make theories. I have told you mine theory about Cells speed, but yet have to hear yours. "
All I have to go on are visuals from the anime and it looks to me that most of the time he isn't even moving at super speed.
#86 Edited by Mortein (4030 posts) - - Show Bio
@Baldy said:

" @Mortein said:

" @Baldy said:
" @Mortein said:
" @Baldy said:

" @thegreat said:

"at "

Not without feats he isn't. "
But he has lots of feats that shows us he is much faster then full powered saiyans "
     They know that what you are saying i true they are just hoping that they can convince you without presenting any facts. Notice that it is us who on every thread have to show scans just to stay in the thread, when they don't do jack. "
That's because you people keep making claims with no evidence. All of this is speculation and thus completely invalid. " 
 

I guess you have a better way to determine approximately how fast Cell should be? Let me hear your theory and if it is better then mine I will change my opinion. "
It's your claim, burden of proof lies with you. By proof I don't mean random fan bias based guesses. "
I am trying to determine how fast Cell is in oder to determine outcome of this battle, and since we do not know how fast Cell is we have to make theories. I have told you mine theory about Cells speed, but yet have to hear yours. "
All I have to go on are visuals from the anime and it looks to me that most of the time he isn't even moving at super speed. "
We are talking about comic here. Anime is to confusing an inconsistent for me.
#87 Posted by Baldy (4963 posts) - - Show Bio
@Mortein said:
" @Baldy said:
" @Mortein said:
" @Baldy said:
" @Mortein said:
" @Baldy said:

" @thegreat said:

"at "

Not without feats he isn't. "
But he has lots of feats that shows us he is much faster then full powered saiyans "
     They know that what you are saying i true they are just hoping that they can convince you without presenting any facts. Notice that it is us who on every thread have to show scans just to stay in the thread, when they don't do jack. "
That's because you people keep making claims with no evidence. All of this is speculation and thus completely invalid. " 

I guess you have a better way to determine approximately how fast Cell should be? Let me hear your theory and if it is better then mine I will change my opinion. "
It's your claim, burden of proof lies with you. By proof I don't mean random fan bias based guesses. "
I am trying to determine how fast Cell is in oder to determine outcome of this battle, and since we do not know how fast Cell is we have to make theories. I have told you mine theory about Cells speed, but yet have to hear yours. "
All I have to go on are visuals from the anime and it looks to me that most of the time he isn't even moving at super speed. "
We are talking about comic here. "
Fine. Then give some proof.
#88 Posted by Mortein (4030 posts) - - Show Bio
@Baldy said:
" @Mortein said:
All I have to go on are visuals from the anime and it looks to me that most of the time he isn't even moving at super speed. "We are talking about comic here. "
Fine. Then give some proof. "
I showed you he was much faster then full powered super saiyans.
#89 Posted by krisboyz781 (1163 posts) - - Show Bio

only way cell wins is with speed,spirit bomb(which takes a million years to charge up), and absorbing people.

#90 Posted by Klandicar (2403 posts) - - Show Bio

Wolverine is good with stealth, we saw Cell was susceptible to surprise attacks when that Android grabbed him from behind.  What happens when Wolverine gets the first hit with a little bit of adamantium.  Then if he goes berserk he'll outslash Cell's regeneration capabilities until Cell runs out of energy and dies.

#91 Posted by Baldy (4963 posts) - - Show Bio
@Mortein said:
" @Baldy said:
" @Mortein said:
All I have to go on are visuals from the anime and it looks to me that most of the time he isn't even moving at super speed. "We are talking about comic here. "
Fine. Then give some proof. "
I showed you he was much faster then full powered super saiyans. "
No you showed some guy saying "Wha", not to mention you havn't proven that saiyans are super sonic.
#92 Posted by Mortein (4030 posts) - - Show Bio
@Klandicar said:
" Wolverine is good with stealth, we saw Cell was susceptible to surprise attacks when that Android grabbed him from behind.  What happens when Wolverine gets the first hit with a little bit of adamantium.  Then if he goes berserk he'll outslash Cell's regeneration capabilities until Cell runs out of energy and dies. "
Android isn't alive, which is why Cell couldn't sense him, and you cant compare the speed of 16 with wolverines speed
#93 Posted by Baldy (4963 posts) - - Show Bio
@Mortein said:
" @Klandicar said:
" Wolverine is good with stealth, we saw Cell was susceptible to surprise attacks when that Android grabbed him from behind.  What happens when Wolverine gets the first hit with a little bit of adamantium.  Then if he goes berserk he'll outslash Cell's regeneration capabilities until Cell runs out of energy and dies. "
Android isn't alive, which is why Cell couldn't sense him, and you cant compare the speed of 16 with wolverines speed "
Why can't you? Making up more super speed for characters that never showed any?
#94 Edited by Mortein (4030 posts) - - Show Bio
@Baldy said:

" @Mortein said:

" @Klandicar said:

" Wolverine is good with stealth, we saw Cell was susceptible to surprise attacks when that Android grabbed him from behind.  What happens when Wolverine gets the first hit with a little bit of adamantium.  Then if he goes berserk he'll outslash Cell's regeneration capabilities until Cell runs out of energy and dies. "

Android isn't alive, which is why Cell couldn't sense him, and you cant compare the speed of 16 with wolverines speed "
Why can't you? Making up more super speed for characters that never showed any? "
What are you talking about? Cell doesn't have a super speed at all??
You have DBZ comics on internet, look at his fights and you'll see he is faster or at least as fast as full powered super saiyan.
#95 Posted by thegreat (187 posts) - - Show Bio
@Mortein said:
" @Baldy said:
" @Mortein said:
All I have to go on are visuals from the anime and it looks to me that most of the time he isn't even moving at super speed. "We are talking about comic here. "
Fine. Then give some proof. "
I showed you he was much faster then full powered super saiyans. "

All you need to do is show him the scan of Krillin and master roshi. 
Or Raditz dodging a ki blast fired at him at the last moment. The same blast which destroyed the moon in very little time, it reached the moon in like 1 second, and that is roughly light speed. Raditz dodged the beam in the last moment where there should have been no time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS3ent7N3wg&feature=related 
 
Just because you are not watching a blank screen does not mean that they are not moving fast. 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uc7vHETRns&feature=related ssj gotenks without trying goes around earth several times in seconds, which I admit is not very impressive for dbz standards, but the manga does not demonstrate a time, in fact gotenks is just taking a stroll but enough of that. 
 
In dbz they outrun ki blasts all the time, which should be proof of how fast they really are. 
 
Oh yeah another thing in the anime it is sometimes not best to go by our time, because 5 seconds was the equivalent to 1 second in their time when goku was training with king kai: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW2Hq-uKL7M&feature=related when goku catches gregory with a hammer. 
 
Also I have already told him about how king kai said that freiza and goku where the fastest he had ever come across he found it hard for them to follow, he could not keep up with them yet he was able to keep up with a ship moving over 300 times the speed of light. 
 
They don't like us using feats and then using simple calculations to translate that into figures. Cell straight up in the last moment dodged Vegeta's final flash which was way ftl
#96 Posted by Baldy (4963 posts) - - Show Bio
@Mortein said:
" @Baldy said:

" @Mortein said:

" @Klandicar said:
" Wolverine is good with stealth, we saw Cell was susceptible to surprise attacks when that Android grabbed him from behind.  What happens when Wolverine gets the first hit with a little bit of adamantium.  Then if he goes berserk he'll outslash Cell's regeneration capabilities until Cell runs out of energy and dies. "
Android isn't alive, which is why Cell couldn't sense him, and you cant compare the speed of 16 with wolverines speed "
Why can't you? Making up more super speed for characters that never showed any? "
What are you talking about? Cell doesn't have a super speed at all?? You have DBZ comics on internet, look at his fights and youll see he is faster or as fast as full powered super saiyan. "
Prove that super saiyans have super speed.
#97 Posted by Mortein (4030 posts) - - Show Bio
@Baldy said:
" @Mortein said:
" @Baldy said:

" @Mortein said:

" @Klandicar said:
" Wolverine is good with stealth, we saw Cell was susceptible to surprise attacks when that Android grabbed him from behind.  What happens when Wolverine gets the first hit with a little bit of adamantium.  Then if he goes berserk he'll outslash Cell's regeneration capabilities until Cell runs out of energy and dies. "
Android isn't alive, which is why Cell couldn't sense him, and you cant compare the speed of 16 with wolverines speed "
Why can't you? Making up more super speed for characters that never showed any? "
What are you talking about? Cell doesn't have a super speed at all?? You have DBZ comics on internet, look at his fights and youll see he is faster or as fast as full powered super saiyan. "
Prove that super saiyans have super speed. "
lol, I know you are not serious.
#98 Posted by thegreat (187 posts) - - Show Bio
@Mortein said:
" @Baldy said:
" @Mortein said:
" @Baldy said:

" @Mortein said:

" @Klandicar said:
" Wolverine is good with stealth, we saw Cell was susceptible to surprise attacks when that Android grabbed him from behind.  What happens when Wolverine gets the first hit with a little bit of adamantium.  Then if he goes berserk he'll outslash Cell's regeneration capabilities until Cell runs out of energy and dies. "
Android isn't alive, which is why Cell couldn't sense him, and you cant compare the speed of 16 with wolverines speed "
Why can't you? Making up more super speed for characters that never showed any? "
What are you talking about? Cell doesn't have a super speed at all?? You have DBZ comics on internet, look at his fights and youll see he is faster or as fast as full powered super saiyan. "
Prove that super saiyans have super speed. "
lol, I know you are not serious. "

he is not at all, it is hysterical, save energy and let him be, I actually thought that at one point he was open-minded ah well.
#99 Posted by Grand Ninja (2606 posts) - - Show Bio

cell is faster than most of these x-men. magneto is probably the only one who has a chance.

#100 Posted by Just Because Im Obsessive (655 posts) - - Show Bio
@Baldy said:
" @Just Because Im Obsessive said:
" Too many omega mutants with no speed  Cell will kill 90% of the team before they knew the fight started  Cell is a freaking android so no mindjobs for him   either juggs just quits after he cant hit cell just like ultra trunks vs cell...or he gets absorbed.   cell wins "
He's biological and has never been shown to be immune to mind rape. "
hes an android...you find an instance of an android being mindjobed and i'll show you PIS. Again not that it matters he'd kill the them before they get a chance to think
@Baldy said:
" @Just Because Im Obsessive said:
" Too many omega mutants with no speed  Cell will kill 90% of the team before they knew the fight started  Cell is a freaking android so no mindjobs for him   either juggs just quits after he cant hit cell just like ultra trunks vs cell...or he gets absorbed.   cell wins "
I think this whole battle comes down to FTL. If you believe he is FTL then I guess he wins, otherwise he can't.  I personally don't think he has FTL movement. "

i believe that cell is ftl 
 
not that he has to be..he would still be faster than any of the x men by using early dbz speeds alone.