#1 Posted by PlasticBag (1222 posts) - - Show Bio

-Fight takes place in Sahara Desert

-Both are current versions

-Percy has Riptide & Jason has Lvlivs, other then that standard gear for both

-Both are in character

-Both start 25 meters apart

Who wins this demigod showdown!?

LET THE FIGHT BEGIN!

#2 Posted by Caionsouza (134 posts) - - Show Bio

Percy

#3 Posted by PlasticBag (1222 posts) - - Show Bio

@Caionsouza: Why?

#4 Posted by YoungJustice (6919 posts) - - Show Bio

Jason.

With no water around it gives Percy a major disadvantage.

#5 Posted by PlasticBag (1222 posts) - - Show Bio

@YoungJustice: Yea I agree. Still would be a good fight though.

#6 Posted by joewell (6631 posts) - - Show Bio

@YoungJustice said:

Jason.

With no water around it gives Percy a major disadvantage.

He still a better fight, well he has better feats

#7 Posted by YoungJustice (6919 posts) - - Show Bio

@joewell said:

@YoungJustice said:

Jason.

With no water around it gives Percy a major disadvantage.

He still a better fight, well he has better feats

I know, but no HF for Percy or water to manipulate with no water.

Jason has the storms at his command.

I dont think its possible for Percy to win.

#8 Posted by PlasticBag (1222 posts) - - Show Bio

@joewell: So who do you think wins? Remember Jason can fly and summon lightning while Percy has no water.

#9 Posted by joewell (6631 posts) - - Show Bio

@PlasticBag said:

@joewell: So who do you think wins? Remember Jason can fly and summon lightning while Percy has no water.

Hasn't he took a bolt before ( i'm probably wrong but i think i remember that some where )

And he has better combat feats

And Percy has been able to cause earthquakes before, so he can do it again

#10 Posted by PlasticBag (1222 posts) - - Show Bio

@joewell: Yea he took a bolt from Jason's sister can't remember her name atm. IMO I think Jason is much stronger than her though he cracked Mt. Diablo in half with his lightning.

#11 Posted by TitanTempest (327 posts) - - Show Bio

Percy. Percy has more experience, he could use water in cacti and other water holding plants, and he can still create Earthquakes even he doesn't use it for too long. Earthquakes in a dessert could be a major advantage. Jason maybe experience but he has no mental memory, only muscle memory. Jason can summon a lightning bolts through his weapon, but if he misses he is done for.......... As a last ditch effort Percy could summon water to protect himself but then he would pass out. But I still give Percy the win, but it would be a good fight.

#12 Posted by joewell (6631 posts) - - Show Bio

@PlasticBag said:

Yea he took a bolt from Jason's sister can't remember her name atm. IMO I think Jason is much stronger than her though he cracked Mt. Diablo in half with his lightning.

yeah but he drained almost all of his power like that and he had help from Jupiter and It broke his weapon

Also Percy has pulled water out of the ground before so he dose have some water

#13 Posted by Vortex13 (12264 posts) - - Show Bio

@PlasticBag: Well really it was Zeus that boosted Jason's power so he could do that.

You guys seem to be forgetting that Percy can summon water in places even if there is no water he was able to do that to clean the stables and in a volcano.

#14 Posted by joewell (6631 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vortex13 said:

@PlasticBag: Well really it was Zeus that boosted Jason's power so he could do that.

You guys seem to be forgetting that Percy can summon water in places even if there is no water he was able to do that to clean the stables and in a volcano.

Yes it was and he still lost all power

Yeah that to but the volcano thing knocked him out for like a week

#15 Posted by PlasticBag (1222 posts) - - Show Bio

Yea haven't read the books in awhile even if he summons an earthquake Jason could just go into the air.

#16 Posted by Vortex13 (12264 posts) - - Show Bio

@joewell: True, but that was more due to being shot across the country lol. His week rest wasn't so much drained of energy but injury.

#17 Posted by joewell (6631 posts) - - Show Bio

@PlasticBag said:

Yea haven't read the books in awhile even if he summons an earthquake Jason could just go into the air.

But he can still make water out of the ground

#18 Posted by TitanTempest (327 posts) - - Show Bio

@PlasticBag said:

Yea haven't read the books in awhile even if he summons an earthquake Jason could just go into the air.

But there is a limit of how far he can go.... Plus he has to summon winds to fly, and winds in a dessert would pick up sand particles which would not lessen his flight ability but cause him to be pelted by sand

#19 Posted by PlasticBag (1222 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmm okay interesting... i'll still go with Jason though. Also remember Percy doesn't have Achilles Curse anymore.

#20 Posted by joewell (6631 posts) - - Show Bio

@PlasticBag said:

Hmm okay interesting... i'll still go with Jason though. Also remember Percy doesn't have Achilles Curse anymore.

I know, why do you go with him

#21 Posted by JamesKM716 (1995 posts) - - Show Bio

I go with Jason. He can use storms, plus he has better training because of the Roman camp. Percy's training has been sparse and lucky. With no water around, Percy's at a HUGE disadvantage.

#22 Posted by Caionsouza (134 posts) - - Show Bio

@TitanTempest said:

Percy. Percy has more experience, he could use water in cacti and other water holding plants, and he can still create Earthquakes even he doesn't use it for too long. Earthquakes in a dessert could be a major advantage. Jason maybe experience but he has no mental memory, only muscle memory. Jason can summon a lightning bolts through his weapon, but if he misses he is done for.......... As a last ditch effort Percy could summon water to protect himself but then he would pass out. But I still give Percy the win, but it would be a good fight.

Yeah is this

#23 Posted by joewell (6631 posts) - - Show Bio

@JamesKM716 said:

I go with Jason. He can use storms, plus he has better training because of the Roman camp. Percy's training has been sparse and lucky. With no water around, Percy's at a HUGE disadvantage.

Didn't Percy solo and army of ghost Camp Jupiter campers?

And in the training war he,Hazel, and Frank took out like 100 campers

Are you saying there are 6 books worth of luck?

He fought the god of war and stalmated

#24 Posted by TitanTempest (327 posts) - - Show Bio

Ooooh Third option, They meet the Kane siblings in the desert and it becomes a Greek and egypt battle ha, just kidding...... I know, but he doesnt really need the curse anymore, Percy has a natural ability to adjust to the battle and his surroundings like the sea, the ability to adjust is underestimated

#25 Posted by PlasticBag (1222 posts) - - Show Bio

@joewell: I think he could beat Percy in this situation. Please explain why you think Percy would win. I'd love to hear it!

#26 Posted by TitanTempest (327 posts) - - Show Bio

@joewell said:

@JamesKM716 said:

I go with Jason. He can use storms, plus he has better training because of the Roman camp. Percy's training has been sparse and lucky. With no water around, Percy's at a HUGE disadvantage.

He fought the god of war and stalmated

This!! If Ares had trouble against him, then Jason's experience doesnt matter

#27 Posted by joewell (6631 posts) - - Show Bio

@PlasticBag said:

I think he could beat Percy in this situation. Please explain why you think Percy would win. I'd love to hear it!

Ok

  1. Percy has more experience and alot of jasons was erased
  2. He can sommon water from the ground and heal
  3. Better sword fighting feats
  4. Jason can't stay in the air forever and if he starts shooting lighting then he will loose energy
  5. Percy can avoid his attacks until he runs out of stamina and he'll go in for the kill
#28 Posted by TitanTempest (327 posts) - - Show Bio

@JamesKM716 said:

I go with Jason. He can use storms, plus he has better training because of the Roman camp. Percy's training has been sparse and lucky. With no water around, Percy's at a HUGE disadvantage.

Wouldn't summoning a storm create a huge advantage for Percy........

CLOUDS & RAIN = WATER

#29 Posted by JamesKM716 (1995 posts) - - Show Bio

@TitanTempest said:

@joewell said:

@JamesKM716 said:

I go with Jason. He can use storms, plus he has better training because of the Roman camp. Percy's training has been sparse and lucky. With no water around, Percy's at a HUGE disadvantage.

He fought the god of war and stalmated

This!! If Ares had trouble against him, then Jason's experience doesnt matter

Oh that's right, i forgot that little bit. But he was next to the ocean with that one, and all he did was knick Ares' ankle.

I still think Jason could take this simply because its in the Sahara Desert.

Just my thoughts

#30 Posted by joewell (6631 posts) - - Show Bio

@JamesKM716 said:

@TitanTempest said:

@joewell said:

@JamesKM716 said:

I go with Jason. He can use storms, plus he has better training because of the Roman camp. Percy's training has been sparse and lucky. With no water around, Percy's at a HUGE disadvantage.

He fought the god of war and stalmated

This!! If Ares had trouble against him, then Jason's experience doesnt matter

Oh that's right, i forgot that little bit. But he was next to the ocean with that one, and all he did was knick Ares' ankle.

I still think Jason could take this simply because its in the Sahara Desert.

Just my thoughts

yes but still its impressive

But percy can summon water

#31 Posted by JamesKM716 (1995 posts) - - Show Bio

@joewell said:

@JamesKM716 said:

I go with Jason. He can use storms, plus he has better training because of the Roman camp. Percy's training has been sparse and lucky. With no water around, Percy's at a HUGE disadvantage.

Didn't Percy solo and army of ghost Camp Jupiter campers?

And in the training war he,Hazel, and Frank took out like 100 campers

Are you saying there are 6 books worth of luck?

He fought the god of war and stalmated

The god of War fight was just lucky. But true about the rest, still, i think given the scenario; Jason would win

#32 Posted by joewell (6631 posts) - - Show Bio

@JamesKM716 said:

@joewell said:

@JamesKM716 said:

I go with Jason. He can use storms, plus he has better training because of the Roman camp. Percy's training has been sparse and lucky. With no water around, Percy's at a HUGE disadvantage.

Didn't Percy solo and army of ghost Camp Jupiter campers?

And in the training war he,Hazel, and Frank took out like 100 campers

Are you saying there are 6 books worth of luck?

He fought the god of war and stalmated

The god of War fight was just lucky. But true about the rest, still, i think given the scenario; Jason would win

why? what will he do to percy

#33 Posted by joewell (6631 posts) - - Show Bio

@TitanTempest said:

@JamesKM716 said:

I go with Jason. He can use storms, plus he has better training because of the Roman camp. Percy's training has been sparse and lucky. With no water around, Percy's at a HUGE disadvantage.

Wouldn't summoning a storm create a huge advantage for Percy........

CLOUDS & RAIN = WATER

oh yeah

#34 Edited by TitanTempest (327 posts) - - Show Bio

1. Percy is older ( he has fought multiple gods, demons, and titans) and he is stronger ( he held up the freaking sky)

2. Jason has no memory

3. Jason's abilities would not work as well in a desert (wind would conflict with the sand, and making a storm would allow Percy to control it).

4. Percy is adaptive because of the connection to the sea, he can perceive different situations because of this ability

5. In last ditch efforts, Jason could make a bolt of lightning with his weapon... Percy could summon water or and earthquake.... Both would weaken using major abilities

#35 Posted by PlasticBag (1222 posts) - - Show Bio

@joewell: Is it wrong to go with him?

#36 Posted by TitanTempest (327 posts) - - Show Bio

@PlasticBag: lol Well You did say "LET THE FIGHT BEGIN", We are just explaining our side of the fight.... I like to debate, so Im waiting for someone to think of something about Jason, that I havent thought about- Him, His surroundings, His Weapon, His Powers, Something, lol

Just doing what you said sir lol, So for me and for now its still..... Percy.

#37 Posted by JamesKM716 (1995 posts) - - Show Bio

Do you think Percy can summon water in one of the dryest places on EArth? And if Jason summoned a storm, it'd be one without rain, because he couldn't control water

#38 Posted by joewell (6631 posts) - - Show Bio

@PlasticBag said:

@joewell: Is it wrong to go with him?

no@TitanTempest said:

@PlasticBag: lol Well You did say "LET THE FIGHT BEGIN", We are just explaining our side of the fight.... I like to debate, so Im waiting for someone to think of something about Jason, that I havent thought about- Him, His surroundings, His Weapon, His Powers, Something, lol

Just doing what you said sir lol, So for me and for now its still..... Percy.

#39 Posted by TitanTempest (327 posts) - - Show Bio

@JamesKM716: Well He did summon water inside a volcano, Im thinking those are pretty dry lol :) Ground holds reservoirs of water all over the Earth, and any nearby water holding plants would hold water, which could be used to strengthen and heal him....... And storms are still clouds, and Percy has had numerous occasions where he can control a storm, he cant summon a storm like Jason, but he can control it.... Storms are kind of a neutral ground between the two "a Sky full of Water"

#41 Posted by Skaddix (3106 posts) - - Show Bio

Percy, I would say wins. Its not like the man is powerless outside of Water. Sure it makes him a lot stronger but he is not worthless out of it.

#42 Posted by TitanTempest (327 posts) - - Show Bio

@Skaddix said:

Percy, I would say wins. Its not like the man is powerless outside of Water. Sure it makes him a lot stronger but he is not worthless out of it.

Dang Comicvine, it needs a "Like" button lol

#43 Posted by PlasticBag (1222 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok people I am back lol. I agree Percy does have some good feats but remember they both fought titans Percy did fight the stronger titan but he had the Cure while as Jason fought his hand to hand with no Curse! ZOMG lol I'm enjoying this debate. I do hope though in the new book they had more power and skill to Jason. Jason FTW!

#44 Posted by joewell (6631 posts) - - Show Bio

@PlasticBag said:

Ok people I am back lol. I agree Percy does have some good feats but remember they both fought titans Percy did fight the stronger titan but he had the Cure while as Jason fought his hand to hand with no Curse! ZOMG lol I'm enjoying this debate. I do hope though in the new book they had more power and skill to Jason. Jason FTW!

Not hand to hand, it was a weapon battle

and we do not know how the battle went down it could have been luck

And Percy fought alot more powerful titan

I think they might fight in the new book because on the UK cover there fighting on tempest and blackjack ( i'll get a pic in a sec )

#45 Posted by Vortex13 (12264 posts) - - Show Bio

All the people saying that Jason needs wind to fly are only half right. It's not just wind that allows him to do this he can also increase the density of air for him to be able to travel through it similarly to how Percy can increase water density around him. I'm going to play devils advocate for a bit in Jason's favor for a bit.

People are remarking that Jason lost his memory but he still remembers how to do battle clearly because of how he beat Lityerses. He also was able to defeat Krios the brother of Kronos who was only defeated by Hercules before that and he did that without the curse of Achilles which Percy needed to fight Kronos it should be noted.. It is mentioned and he is the one that led camp Jupiter to the the throne room of Kronos through an army of monsters and minor titans. He toppled the throne by himself as well. He may have forgotten who he was but he fully remembers how to fight he killed the sea serpent of troy as well though we don't actually know how that ranks as a feat because there are not stats on its strength levels. He is a solid match for Percy.

#46 Edited by PlasticBag (1222 posts) - - Show Bio

@joewell: Dude check out my post about the new book I posted the cover lol it was this cover(;

#47 Posted by joewell (6631 posts) - - Show Bio

@PlasticBag: see

@Vortex13 said:

All the people saying that Jason needs wind to fly are only half right. It's not just wind that allows him to do this he can also increase the density of air for him to be able to travel through it similarly to how Percy can increase water density around him. I'm going to play devils advocate for a bit in Jason's favor for a bit.

People are remarking that Jason lost his memory but he still remembers how to do battle clearly because of how he beat Lityerses. He also was able to defeat Krios the brother of Kronos who was only defeated by Hercules before that and he did that without the curse of Achilles which Percy needed to fight Kronos it should be noted.. It is mentioned and he is the one that led camp Jupiter to the the throne room of Kronos through an army of monsters and minor titans. He toppled the throne by himself as well. He may have forgotten who he was but he fully remembers how to fight he killed the sea serpent of troy as well though we don't actually know how that ranks as a feat because there are not stats on its strength levels. He is a solid match for Percy.

He's a great match for percy, thats why i hope they'll be fighting in the book

Percy and Jason feats are very alike but percy has more of them. i mean every feat jason has percy can compare to but not visa versa

#48 Posted by joewell (6631 posts) - - Show Bio

@PlasticBag said:

@joewell: Dude check out my post about the new book I posted the cover lol it was this cover(;

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#49 Posted by PlasticBag (1222 posts) - - Show Bio

@joewell: That is what I am saying I hope they fight it will be epic!

#50 Posted by Vortex13 (12264 posts) - - Show Bio

@joewell:

That's true, but it is only that way because Percy has more face time so far lol.