#1 Posted by joewell (6248 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok I know this has been done but adding rules and stuff

Rules

Round 1

Both are In-Character

No Prep

No Insta-Kill or Achilles Curse

Percy has Riptide

Harry has his Wand

Fight to K.O.

Round 2

Both are bloodlusted

1 week prep

Still no insta-kill or Achilles

All weapons

Fight to the death

Setting

Fighting in a Camp Half-Blood Hogwarts Fusion in the Forest, around .5 mile away from the River

Fully Populated with Demigods and Wizards fighting

Monsters are in the forest

Who Wins, Demigod or Wizard

Give a reason

#2 Posted by venomsapprentice (631 posts) - - Show Bio

Harry & wizards due to versatility in magic.

#3 Posted by Xanni15 (6758 posts) - - Show Bio

Percy wins very easily, he has the agility to dodge Harry's spells and once he gets to the river it's game over for Potter.

#4 Posted by guttridgeb (4831 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1: Percy relatively easily

Round 2: Percy. He can get his hands on magical objects such as Annabeth's cap of invisibility giving him an edge while remaining more mobile with access to weapons unlike Harry with his cloak.

#5 Posted by kingkronos (2501 posts) - - Show Bio

Percy wins both.

#6 Edited by Pwok21 (2249 posts) - - Show Bio

Round One: Crucio. Percy is writhing in pain before Harry finishes him off.

Where has Percy shown the ability to dodge anything faster than magic?

Hell he couldn't dodge a bullet in The Titans Curse, and bolts of magic are way faster.

Round Two: Harry uses an AOE spell which tags Percy's Achilles point on his back, instant death.

Regardless of prep, Harry has many more items and resources to call upon than Percy.

#7 Posted by joewell (6248 posts) - - Show Bio

@pwok21:

He delflected the bullet in Titans Curse, and magic is waaaay slower than that

#8 Posted by logy5000 (5654 posts) - - Show Bio

Harry consistently avoids spells without use of counter-spells. Percy's reaction speed is far above Harry's so he could more than easily dodge them or block them with Riptide. He'll only need to hit Harry once to K.O. him.

Percy wins round 1 without much difficulty.

Percy stomps round 2 since there is water around.

#9 Posted by dondave (34336 posts) - - Show Bio

Percy

#10 Posted by ShadowPro (1471 posts) - - Show Bio

round 2 aevada kedabra nuff said

#11 Edited by Voorhees100 (233 posts) - - Show Bio

@shadowpro said:

round 2 aevada kedabra nuff said

Harry has never shown to be able to use that curse, even when he was slightly bloodlusted while fighting Bellatrix he couldn't do a proper Cruciatus Curse.

Anyway, I still say Harry wins, Percy isn't that close to water, and he may dodge a few spells, but ones constantly coming at you, some that aren't even in physical form like Petrificus Totalus or Imperius Curse will be hard to avoid even with his heightened agility.

#12 Posted by ShadowPro (1471 posts) - - Show Bio

@shadowpro said:

round 2 aevada kedabra nuff said

Harry has never shown to be able to use that curse, even when he was slightly bloodlusted while fighting Bellatrix he couldn't do a proper Cruciatus Curse.

Anyway, I still say Harry wins, Percy isn't that close to water, and he may dodge a few spells, but ones constantly coming at you, some that aren't even in physical form like Petrificus Totalus or Imperius Curse will be hard to avoid even with his heightened agility.

the spel he tried to use was crusiatos and that is diferrent from avada kedabra, to use the crusiato spell you must truly want to hurt your enemy like he did when he use it against the guy who spit on mcgonagall, but to use the killing crse you only need to use the right hand gestyre and say the curse, also he has never tried to use it so there is no reason to think he couldn't

#13 Edited by Voorhees100 (233 posts) - - Show Bio

@voorhees100 said:

@shadowpro said:

round 2 aevada kedabra nuff said

Harry has never shown to be able to use that curse, even when he was slightly bloodlusted while fighting Bellatrix he couldn't do a proper Cruciatus Curse.

Anyway, I still say Harry wins, Percy isn't that close to water, and he may dodge a few spells, but ones constantly coming at you, some that aren't even in physical form like Petrificus Totalus or Imperius Curse will be hard to avoid even with his heightened agility.

the spel he tried to use was crusiatos and that is diferrent from avada kedabra, to use the crusiato spell you must truly want to hurt your enemy like he did when he use it against the guy who spit on mcgonagall, but to use the killing crse you only need to use the right hand gestyre and say the curse, also he has never tried to use it so there is no reason to think he couldn't

I know they're different spells, it's why I said it. They're both Unforgivable Curses, and those two particularly make you have to have a certain mind set. The Cruciatus Cruse, you have to want to hurt your opponent, and for Avada Kedavra you don't just flick a wand, you have to actually want to KILL the person you're using it against, Harry has never shown to be capable of that level of hatred, even bloodlusted I don't see him using it.

#14 Posted by russellmania77 (14561 posts) - - Show Bio

i hate both of em. (shoots myself)

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#15 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (1989 posts) - - Show Bio

@joewell: Harry for multiple reasons.

1. Sectumsempra. It would hit Percy before he knew what it was. It appears as a streak of light, so he could mistake it for a reflection of the sun.

2. Jelly legs curse, it explains itself really. Making the target unable to walk.

Plus, Potter has many stunning hexes and things of the like, so he'll utilize them.

3. Expelliarmus - He'd use that to disarm Percy.

Yeah, Harry has this in the bag.

Wizards can use Transfiguration against the demi-gods.

#16 Edited by MirrorWave4 (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

Poseidon looses another heir.

#17 Edited by GhostofOnyx (656 posts) - - Show Bio

Both rounds Percy. Percy has the mobility to dodge the spells and once he gets into the river than it's game over for Harry.

#18 Posted by Walzo (4355 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingjohnrocks:

This would work, however Percy is healed whenever he is touched by water. Also, he's a lot faster than Harry, and spells don't even go that fast. All Percy needs to do is go to the river and the fight is over. Also, he can cause earthquakes, which is something he can use to distract Harry.

#19 Posted by MirrorWave4 (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

Are y'all serious, Percy isn't even a class 1 tonner, mountain buster, or anything of that nature. Harry Curbestomps him

#20 Posted by Bronze_Surfer (2962 posts) - - Show Bio

@mirrorwave4: He held the sky that is above 1 ton. And hes dodged bullets and fought gods. And in water harry is curbstomped

#21 Posted by Walzo (4355 posts) - - Show Bio

Are y'all serious, Percy isn't even a class 1 tonner, mountain buster, or anything of that nature. Harry Curbestomps him

Neither is Harry, any of those things.

Percy's Faster, Stronger, more tactical, and a lot more powerful than Harry.

#22 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (1989 posts) - - Show Bio

@walzo: Harry has spells he can use to extract/utilize Water as a weapon. Plus, he can just Levicorpus him out of the water then set him aflame.

#23 Edited by Walzo (4355 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingjohnrocks:

If you think that Harry can overpower Percy using water against him, then you're completely wrong. Water strengthens Percy, it doesn't do any harm to him. Also, how is Levicorpus going to do anything when Percy creates a earthquake or a tornado or a tsunami and drowns Harry?

Harry is extremely outclassed here.

#24 Posted by Bronze_Surfer (2962 posts) - - Show Bio

@walzo said:

@kingjohnrocks:

If you think that Harry can overpower Percy using water against him, then you're completely wrong. Water strengthens Percy, it doesn't do any harm to him. Also, how is Levicorpus going to do anything when Percy creates a earthquake or a tornado or a tsunami and drowns Harry?

Harry is extremely outclassed here.

#25 Posted by MirrorWave4 (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman dodges bullets all the time, his he faster than sound? No. Percy is from a incarnation Universe of Greek gods for the First time, God of War gods can Curbestomp.

#26 Posted by Bronze_Surfer (2962 posts) - - Show Bio

@mirrorwave4: Not deneying on the god of war part but can I have some feats of harry being faster than sound

#27 Posted by Walzo (4355 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman dodges bullets all the time, his he faster than sound? No. Percy is from a incarnation Universe of Greek gods for the First time, God of War gods can Curbestomp.

What are you talking about?

Spells aren't faster than sound.

What does God of War have to do with Harry Potter?

#28 Posted by MirrorWave4 (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bronze_Surfer

- I never said Harry can dodge bullets, one person said Percy can dodge bullets but all Street Lvl'rs can dodge bullets and there not much faster than normal people. Ben 10 has dodged lazers when he was 10, so he must be FTL, no.

- I'm not trying to debunk feats but in order for it to be legit it has to be stated somewhere that they are X this fast.

#29 Posted by Bronze_Surfer (2962 posts) - - Show Bio

@mirrorwave4: So this has to do with what? Plently of charecters have dodged lazers it's a mute point. So far Percy is faster based on feats.

#30 Edited by Walzo (4355 posts) - - Show Bio

@mirrorwave4:

....WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

A) Percy can dodge bullets, meaning he should be able to dodge spells.

B) You're not debunking anything, I don't even know what you're doing.

#31 Edited by MirrorWave4 (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bronze_Surfer

- What speed feat besides BULLETS has Percy shown? You can't say who's faster until a legit speed has been given like

X man ran this much distance in Y amount of time.

@Walzo

- Dodging bullets is reaction time, not speed. Yeah he may dodge some spells but what has Percy shown to be as fast as Potter. I am debunking it, that's not a good speed feat or even a speed feat. Plus Harry has his broom stink to fly around and spam Percy from above.

#32 Posted by Walzo (4355 posts) - - Show Bio

@mirrorwave4:

.... What do you mean as fast as Potter? The fact that he's a demi god and has superior training and has above human stats?

Potter, while being a wizard, has all of the stats of a muggle. He's not stronger, faster or smarter than Percy. You're not debunking it due to the fact that it wasn't being used as a speed feat, it was being used to show that Percy can react to things faster than a spell, and would either be able to dodge it or deflect it with his sword.

And also, Round 1 states that it's only Percy's sword and Harry's wand, and Round 2 says all weapons, meaning things like the 12 Legions Eagle, a weapon that was able to summon lightening powerful enough to take down hundreds of monsters, or Hermes` multivitamins that allow the user to withstand any attack.

#33 Edited by Kingjohnrocks (1989 posts) - - Show Bio

@walzo: I am saying Harry can drain water with the Drought Charm. Now, it will not work on Lakes, but Rivers are different.

Plus, Harry can simply use Fire to blast him aflame.

#34 Posted by Walzo (4355 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingjohnrocks:

are you saying that the fire would somehow go through the water and manage to make contact with Percy? I don't think that's how fire reacts to water.

Also, even if Percy weren't to be submerged in water, he still can use (somewhat) tornadoes and earthquakes to his advantage and distract Harry.

#35 Posted by MirrorWave4 (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

@Walzo

Harry has Learned a lot spells while at Hogworts, he was able to find Snape's diary, defeat the giant serpent in Chamber of secrets, and many things to put him on Genius lvl. Last time I read the Lightning thief, Percy is like a C student or worse. So don't count Potter out.

#36 Posted by Walzo (4355 posts) - - Show Bio

@mirrorwave4:

He found Snape's diary by a stroke of luck, he defeated the snake because he had a sword to help him, and also couldn't even go through the serpents skin and had to hit him from inside, and also learning spells at Hogwarts? That's like learning something in school, doesn't put him at genius level.

The Lightening Thief is the first book of an almost 10 book series, meaning you know next to nothing of Percy's skill.

I'm counting Potter out.

#37 Edited by MirrorWave4 (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

@Walzo

- Doesn't mean anything if Percy isn't more intelligent then he was, compared to the current books. Just because a character has more books doesn't mean his character is more intelligently evolved.

#38 Edited by Walzo (4355 posts) - - Show Bio

@mirrorwave4:

.... I never said that having more books meant having evolved more.

You can't even come up with a solid argument anymore for how Harry would win and I've already shown that he's outclassed in every category.

#39 Posted by joewell (6248 posts) - - Show Bio

@walzo: I am saying Harry can drain water with the Drought Charm. Now, it will not work on Lakes, but Rivers are different.

Plus, Harry can simply use Fire to blast him aflame.

Percy's fire retardant and survived being blasted ( and caused ) out of a volcano

#40 Edited by Perpetr8rMike (590 posts) - - Show Bio

@mirrorwave4: If your demanding a spell as in 'Percy ran this fast' you dont get those in HP either. No spell is clocked for speed. Some are very fast, some are bursts of light and have a range limit, some travel as projectiles one time and a flash the next. So why don't you give some speeds on the spells and we will discuss this.

Also Percy has evolved far more as a character since The Lightning Thief. He has survived dozens of life threatening situations, saved lives through quick thinking and wit. Fought Giants, Gods, and Titans to stand stills. And these people are physically stronger and faster showing that Percy had to Out Think those. He out witted the god of war Ares and managed to actually cut him in the Lightning Thief. This shows cleverness that would have put any Ravenclaw to shame.

He has also constructed and maintained an army of Demi-gods to defend Olympus and was the acting General and lead combatant. Percy has also shown bravery, insight, and wits beyond his age. He is the only Male the goddess Artemis likes at all, he earned her respect by taking the sky from her in book 3 so she could fight Atlas and avenge her fallen friend. He has earned the respect of virtually all the gods. Was offered God-hood in book 5 because of his leadership. Offered god-hood and Generalship of the armies of Poseidon in fact. Something he refused and instead asked for the gods to acknowledge all their kids (The root of why the war was possible in the first place) a fact the goddess of wisdom Athena even acknowledged as truth, something he saw while the gods did not.

Percy is not some dumb 11 year old year old kid as he was in the beginning of the Lightning Thief. He has grown and matured as much if not more then Harry. He has lost friends all throughout the series, many during battles where he was either in charge or a large part of the planning and offense. He has seen more war and combat then Harry and he has gone up against monsters and gods who would shred Potter in an instant.

@kingjohnrocks:

Fire does not burn Percy, he has had molten lava poured on him and he was not harmed, he was merely 'Very hot' No spell aside from Fiendfyre can boost a claim of lava temp and no Harry does not know that spell.

@mirrorwave4:

Percy Jackson held up the sky during the fight between Artemis and Atlas, he held the sky a feat done by Gods and Titans. Yes Annabeth did it as well but she was extremely weakened by this, Luke did as well though this may have been after his Achillies curse. Still Percy has held the sky up showing he is far stronger then 1 ton. He has survived Molten Lava being poured onto him, survived being blasted out of a Volcano and the landing. You sir are far off the mark.

@shadowpro:

Wrong. Must I point out that in the very class where Harry Witnesses the spell being used my the Fake Mad-eye the Imposter tells the whole class that if they all pointed their wands at him and said the words he would at best get a bloody nose. He stated and I am paraphrasing "It takes a bit of magic behind it" its not just intent it has to be powerful. Harry has never used it, he did master the Imperio Curse with Surprising ease and the Crucio Curse he performed only a handful of times the first time he was Bloodlusted and insane with grief over Sirius's death and all he managed to do to Belle was cause her a moment of pain.

@pwok21:

What AOE spell? They have very few of those in Harry Potter and Harry has shown none of them.

#41 Posted by MirrorWave4 (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

@ Above people

- I found a source that gave the atmosphere weight or mass estimate.

- it weighs 5 x 10 (to the 18th power) kg.

- Which equals to 5.5 quadrillion tons!!!

- With this information Harry Potter is put against a Guy on par with Superman, making this a Mismatch for poor Harry.

#42 Posted by jamesisaacs (213 posts) - - Show Bio

Greatest 21st century wizard vs a giant douche?

#43 Edited by joewell (6248 posts) - - Show Bio

@jamesisaacs: No, One of the Greatest Wizards in Harry Potter vs The Greatest Demigod in Percy Jackson. You even ever read the books?

@mirrorwave4: He can't punch that hard, not even close. Only lift that much, and he was heavily weakened by it ( he could also probably never do it again )

#44 Edited by Walzo (4355 posts) - - Show Bio

@jamesisaacs:

Wow what great post.

No, more like One of the best wizards in Harry Potter vs A guy who was offered to become a god.

#45 Posted by Walzo (4355 posts) - - Show Bio

@mirrorwave4:

Strength doesn't mean an automatic win, also that doesn't = if Percy were to actually punch him.

I like how quickly you switched sides.

And he isn't on par with Superman.

#46 Posted by MirrorWave4 (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

Forget my last comment on it being a mismatch, that was dumb of me. Harry can still use broomstick and spam, the telekinetic spell or the spell use to freeze the pixies in midair and finish him off.

#47 Edited by joewell (6248 posts) - - Show Bio

@mirrorwave4:

Percy has his Pegasus Blackjack that is just as fast ( if not faster )

No idea what you talking bout with the freezing pixies

#48 Edited by Walzo (4355 posts) - - Show Bio

@mirrorwave4:

I don't understand how you're thinking this when I've given a reason as to why Percy can dodge spells and also can use his own magical items, which are a lot more powerful, against Harry,

#49 Posted by Lvenger (18266 posts) - - Show Bio
  1. Guys this is an in character fight. Harry's not going to spam crucio or sectumsempra in character against Percy. Besides the wizards who only have average human stats can dodge spells and Percy has superhuman physicals easily. Blocking bullets and much faster attacks means some spells aren't going to be a problem. If Percy gets close to Harry or has access to a water source, it's all over. Plus Percy is a great fighter on his feet. He's fought monsters, gods and Titans and still found ways to survive or win.
  2. Having the Elder Wand, the Invisibility Cloak and his Firebolt might give Harry some versatility but Percy can get the cap of invisibility and a bunch of god made weapons. These would add to his already numerous advantages against Harry. Percy can take this round too.
#50 Posted by MirrorWave4 (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

Hermoine demonstrated the feat and this was during Chamber of Secrets. So why shouldn't Harry have learned the spell years by now. So then, the Spell is design to freeze an opponent in midair leaving them motionless. And who's to say Harry doesn't get the Elder Wand within the week of Prep since it's not stated he can't have that. I'm pretty sure it's capable of leaving a boy with a flying horse motionless so that Harry can figure a way to K.O him.