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#1 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (3548 posts) - - Show Bio

Pain fights Sasuke. Sasuke has all of his feats up until killing Danzo. Fight takes place in the Hidden Leaf Village. who wins?

#2 Posted by CerberusPrime3k (950 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman: Pain as in Nagato himself or the 6 paths?

#3 Posted by redbird3rdboywonder (3862 posts) - - Show Bio

Pain slaughters him easily

#4 Posted by Supermansito (196 posts) - - Show Bio

Pain

#5 Posted by Chronus (1115 posts) - - Show Bio

Pain.

#6 Posted by CerberusPrime3k (950 posts) - - Show Bio

Well..assuming its 6 paths, Sasuke losses and Nagato alone sasuke losses horribly.

#7 Posted by D3athstroke (3909 posts) - - Show Bio

Sasuke gets gangbanged

#8 Posted by terry2012 (4776 posts) - - Show Bio

Pein wins. If Sasuke does not have the legendary sword then he lost before it even started. Because Amterasu wont him because it can be Absorb like Pein did to Itachi.

#9 Posted by ComicStooge (12001 posts) - - Show Bio

Pien would still demolish, even if was just the Deva Path.

#10 Posted by nishi99 (380 posts) - - Show Bio

Pain wins now if this were prime Itachi then we could have a fight on are hands.Unless it was Nagato then Itachi would likely lose.

#11 Posted by greenteaforme (1826 posts) - - Show Bio

Sasuke isn't very good. He's only won any fight up until now because of his eye hax. As a ninja, he's nothing special.

#12 Edited by ComicStooge (12001 posts) - - Show Bio

@greenteaforme said:

Sasuke isn't very good. He's only won any fight up until now because of his eye hax. As a ninja, he's nothing special.

This. Though couldn't the same be said about Pain?

#13 Posted by SpideyPresence (1906 posts) - - Show Bio

Pain. One hell of a ninja or well.. ninjas

#14 Posted by greenteaforme (1826 posts) - - Show Bio

@ComicStooge said:

@greenteaforme said:

Sasuke isn't very good. He's only won any fight up until now because of his eye hax. As a ninja, he's nothing special.

This. Though couldn't the same be said about Pain?

As a child, he was shown to be a prodigy. He was a genius ninja. While Sasuke was also meant to be a "genius", he was under Neji and Lee, and possibly some others. He also never reached the same levels of Itachi.

But, yes, he also uses some eye hax.

#15 Posted by ComicStooge (12001 posts) - - Show Bio

@greenteaforme said:

@ComicStooge said:

@greenteaforme said:

Sasuke isn't very good. He's only won any fight up until now because of his eye hax. As a ninja, he's nothing special.

This. Though couldn't the same be said about Pain?

As a child, he was shown to be a prodigy. He was a genius ninja. While Sasuke was also meant to be a "genius", he was under Neji and Lee, and possibly some others. He also never reached the same levels of Itachi.

But, yes, he also uses some eye hax.

Do all of the high powered ninja in Naruto use some form of hax or another?

#16 Posted by greenteaforme (1826 posts) - - Show Bio

@ComicStooge said:

@greenteaforme said:

@ComicStooge said:

@greenteaforme said:

Sasuke isn't very good. He's only won any fight up until now because of his eye hax. As a ninja, he's nothing special.

This. Though couldn't the same be said about Pain?

As a child, he was shown to be a prodigy. He was a genius ninja. While Sasuke was also meant to be a "genius", he was under Neji and Lee, and possibly some others. He also never reached the same levels of Itachi.

But, yes, he also uses some eye hax.

Do all of the high powered ninja in Naruto use some form of hax or another?

No, of course not.

None of the sannin used hax. (Sage mode is not hax, since one has to train for and earn it legitimately.)

Minato didn't use hax.

Third Hokage didn't use hax.

There are plenty of others.

#17 Posted by ComicStooge (12001 posts) - - Show Bio

@greenteaforme said:

@ComicStooge said:

@greenteaforme said:

@ComicStooge said:

@greenteaforme said:

Sasuke isn't very good. He's only won any fight up until now because of his eye hax. As a ninja, he's nothing special.

This. Though couldn't the same be said about Pain?

As a child, he was shown to be a prodigy. He was a genius ninja. While Sasuke was also meant to be a "genius", he was under Neji and Lee, and possibly some others. He also never reached the same levels of Itachi.

But, yes, he also uses some eye hax.

Do all of the high powered ninja in Naruto use some form of hax or another?

No, of course not.

None of the sannin used hax. (Sage mode is not hax, since one has to train for and earn it legitimately.)

Minato didn't use hax.

Third Hokage didn't use hax.

There are plenty of others.

Would you consider a tailed beast to be hax?

#18 Posted by greenteaforme (1826 posts) - - Show Bio

@ComicStooge said:

@greenteaforme said:

@ComicStooge said:

@greenteaforme said:

@ComicStooge said:

@greenteaforme said:

Sasuke isn't very good. He's only won any fight up until now because of his eye hax. As a ninja, he's nothing special.

This. Though couldn't the same be said about Pain?

As a child, he was shown to be a prodigy. He was a genius ninja. While Sasuke was also meant to be a "genius", he was under Neji and Lee, and possibly some others. He also never reached the same levels of Itachi.

But, yes, he also uses some eye hax.

Do all of the high powered ninja in Naruto use some form of hax or another?

No, of course not.

None of the sannin used hax. (Sage mode is not hax, since one has to train for and earn it legitimately.)

Minato didn't use hax.

Third Hokage didn't use hax.

There are plenty of others.

Would you consider a tailed beast to be hax?

Anything you haven't trained for/earned is hax.

You can train to control your tailed beast, but I still consider it hax.

Eye techniques are hax. Most bloodline limits are hacks.

But, there are lots of ninja that have proven themselves to be quality fighters even without their hax ie. Bee.

#19 Posted by Alien_Emperor_Xenu (10 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman:sasuke is just another Emo dude who thinks he is better then everyone else, just like peter parker in the new movie.

when sasuke wins a fight its just an obvious bad writing and can easily see it is written in his favor for the fans.

pain is one of the strongest out there.

#20 Edited by ComicStooge (12001 posts) - - Show Bio

@greenteaforme said:

@ComicStooge said:

@greenteaforme said:

@ComicStooge said:

@greenteaforme said:

@ComicStooge said:

@greenteaforme said:

Sasuke isn't very good. He's only won any fight up until now because of his eye hax. As a ninja, he's nothing special.

This. Though couldn't the same be said about Pain?

As a child, he was shown to be a prodigy. He was a genius ninja. While Sasuke was also meant to be a "genius", he was under Neji and Lee, and possibly some others. He also never reached the same levels of Itachi.

But, yes, he also uses some eye hax.

Do all of the high powered ninja in Naruto use some form of hax or another?

No, of course not.

None of the sannin used hax. (Sage mode is not hax, since one has to train for and earn it legitimately.)

Minato didn't use hax.

Third Hokage didn't use hax.

There are plenty of others.

Would you consider a tailed beast to be hax?

Anything you haven't trained for/earned is hax.

You can train to control your tailed beast, but I still consider it hax.

Eye techniques are hax. Most bloodline limits are hacks.

But, there are lots of ninja that have proven themselves to be quality fighters even without their hax ie. Bee.

Killer Bee is pretty cool. Didn't he shred Sasuke up, and he only survived due to his team mates?

#21 Posted by terry2012 (4776 posts) - - Show Bio

@ComicStooge: Yeah

#22 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (3548 posts) - - Show Bio

Hm, I thought this might be a decent fight, considering Naruto of all people defeated Pein. Granted, he had Sage Mode, but still Sasuke has Susano'o, Sharingan, Kirin...

#23 Edited by FourthDeity (2234 posts) - - Show Bio

@greenteaforme said:

Sasuke isn't very good. He's only won any fight up until now because of his eye hax. As a ninja, he's nothing special.

This.

Sauske's entire crew got solo'd by a Nonchalant Bee.

#24 Posted by FourthDeity (2234 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

Hm, I thought this might be a decent fight, considering Naruto of all people defeated Pein. Granted, he had Sage Mode, but still Sasuke has Susano'o, Sharingan, Kirin...

Sharingan? Good luck looking at all six of them before you get impaled.

Susano? They could easily bust that with teamwork.

Kirin? Beyond impractical and I'm almost certain one of the Pains could absorb or nullify that.

Naruto is 400x the Ninja Sauske is

#25 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (3548 posts) - - Show Bio

@FourthDeity So when Naruto and Sasuke stalemate consistently.... That makes Naruto better?

#26 Posted by TERMINATORXX (3899 posts) - - Show Bio

@Supermansito said:

Pain

#27 Posted by MyonKuro (83 posts) - - Show Bio
I'd love to say Sasuke since he's my mostfavored character but...yeah
Pein/Pain wins.
Sasuke can't do much with the the sharingan since there are multiple targets that Sasuke just like:

Said

Sharingan? Good luck looking at all six of them before you get impaled.

Susano? They could easily bust that with teamwork.

Kirin? Beyond impractical and I'm almost certain one of the Pains could absorb or nullify that.

Naruto is 400x the Ninja Sauske is

So yeah. It's a true Bummer Sauske left since I'm SURE he could have been a better ninja if he had had training under the Leaf Village. If that was the case, he would be On~Par with Naruto...I'm sure.
But's it's wrong that Naruto is 400x the Ninja Sasuke is, since Naruto definitively depends on his 9~tailed Fox/The Kyuubi too much. So yeah.
Myon
#28 Posted by FourthDeity (2234 posts) - - Show Bio

@MyonKuro said:

I'd love to say Sasuke since he's my mostfavored character but...yeah
Pein/Pain wins.
Sasuke can't do much with the the sharingan since there are multiple targets that Sasuke just like:

Said

Sharingan? Good luck looking at all six of them before you get impaled.

Susano? They could easily bust that with teamwork.

Kirin? Beyond impractical and I'm almost certain one of the Pains could absorb or nullify that.

Naruto is 400x the Ninja Sauske is

So yeah. It's a true Bummer Sauske left since I'm SURE he could have been a better ninja if he had had training under the Leaf Village. If that was the case, he would be On~Par with Naruto...I'm sure.
But's it's wrong that Naruto is 400x the Ninja Sasuke is, since Naruto definitively depends on his 9~tailed Fox/The Kyuubi too much. So yeah.
Myon

Sauske had the drive and natural talent to be a great ninja but he lost his path in the end.

The same can be said for Sauske. He wouldn't have even made it into shippuuden without his Sharingan and that still wasn't enough to even put a dent in Bee.

#29 Posted by RudeBomberBoy01 (1659 posts) - - Show Bio

Pain wins here.

#30 Posted by SlimJ87D (9331 posts) - - Show Bio

I want to point out that not even Naruto beat pain on his own. He prepped for weeks actually when you think about it!

1. Had to obtain sage mode.

2. Had to gain intel from the leaf village and Jiraya's death contributed to Pain's death also.

3. Came in prepared with 3 giant Frogs and fought along side Ma and Pa toads who were also in sage mode.

4. Had to prep with other clones.

Sasuke doesn't have any intel or information on Pain nor is he prepped in any kind of way. He will go blind from using his eye attacks and won't even know that it is Nagato hiding somewhere that is controlling the bodies.

Sasuke losses. Pain even though defeated is still one of the strongest Naruto characters to this date.

#31 Posted by redbird3rdboywonder (3862 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman: Naruto and Saskue stalemate because of complete PIS and simply because he's Kishimoto's favortie character. There's nothing more or less to it. In their first fight at the Valley of End, had Naruto gone all out or even gained one more tail, Saskue wouldve died. During the Second (or was it third) time they clashed after Saskue's battle with Danzo Saskue was almost blind yet and out of chakra while Naruto was in full health and chakra, yet somehow they stalemate and ad you dont find something strange about that? In shippuden the only thing Saskue has going for him is BS

#32 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@Chronus said:

Pain.

#33 Posted by No_Trolling (653 posts) - - Show Bio

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@ImTheDamnBatman: Naruto and Saskue stalemate because of complete PIS and simply because he's Kishimoto's favortie character. There's nothing more or less to it. In their first fight at the Valley of End, had Naruto gone all out or even gained one more tail, Saskue wouldve died. During the Second (or was it third) time they clashed after Saskue's battle with Danzo Saskue was almost blind yet and out of chakra while Naruto was in full health and chakra, yet somehow they stalemate and ad you dont find something strange about that? In shippuden the only thing Saskue has going for him is BS

So true.

#34 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (3548 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm pretty sure Sasuke killed Orochimaru, and everyone craps their pants when he's around.

#35 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

Sasuke needs a team

#36 Posted by redbird3rdboywonder (3862 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman: Nope Saskue didnt even do that. Itachi sealed Orochimaru away for good until Kishimot decided to pull some BS by

Bringing him back in a current chapter via Anko's curse mark (in a Voldemort and Horcruxes type fashion but instead of horcruxes replae them with curse marks) as the "human who knows everything"
#37 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (3548 posts) - - Show Bio

You seem to be a Sasuke hater.

#38 Posted by WWAJfan (242 posts) - - Show Bio

Pain

#39 Posted by Batnandez (511 posts) - - Show Bio

Sasuke wins via plot and help from Tobidara.

#40 Posted by Simon_the_digger (2849 posts) - - Show Bio

Pein

#41 Edited by Alien_Emperor_Xenu (10 posts) - - Show Bio

i just remembered, pain slayed the hokage and defeated naruto, naruto eventually could pick himself up because of the ninetails and hinata.

pain also used alot of power to destroy a village so he was a bit weakened in the battle.

pain can fart on the face of the "upgraded sharingan"(forgot the name), it was already mentioned before his eyes are stronger than the sharingan eyes.

EDIT: pein is only if you write letter by letter from japanese but together it is pronounced kinda like pain.

EDIT: just to make it clear, pain defeated all of his opponents. he killed himself to revive people.

#42 Posted by Tony_Shark (457 posts) - - Show Bio

@ComicStooge said:

@greenteaforme said:

@ComicStooge said:

@greenteaforme said:

@ComicStooge said:

@greenteaforme said:

Sasuke isn't very good. He's only won any fight up until now because of his eye hax. As a ninja, he's nothing special.

This. Though couldn't the same be said about Pain?

As a child, he was shown to be a prodigy. He was a genius ninja. While Sasuke was also meant to be a "genius", he was under Neji and Lee, and possibly some others. He also never reached the same levels of Itachi.

But, yes, he also uses some eye hax.

Do all of the high powered ninja in Naruto use some form of hax or another?

No, of course not.

None of the sannin used hax. (Sage mode is not hax, since one has to train for and earn it legitimately.)

Minato didn't use hax.

Third Hokage didn't use hax.

There are plenty of others.

Would you consider a tailed beast to be hax?

Nah. Tailed Beast can be a HUGE drawback if you can't control it, since it can turn you into a mindless monster.

Training to control them isn't easy. You have to be strong enough to fight it head-on, and you pretty much die if you don't win.

Same for Sage Mode. The training can kill you.

Basically, Naruto has earned all his power-ups respectfully. Sasuke... has not.

#43 Posted by OmegaDynasty (9184 posts) - - Show Bio

Pain wins, he is secretly Sonic the Hedgehog/Road Runner from Looney Toons.
  
 

#44 Posted by terry2012 (4776 posts) - - Show Bio

@SlimJ87D: This is so true, all the way true.

#45 Posted by terry2012 (4776 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman: No it is true Orochimaru is back. Just read chapter 590-593.

#46 Posted by greenteaforme (1826 posts) - - Show Bio

@Tony_Shark said:

@ComicStooge said:

@greenteaforme said:

@ComicStooge said:

@greenteaforme said:

@ComicStooge said:

@greenteaforme said:

Sasuke isn't very good. He's only won any fight up until now because of his eye hax. As a ninja, he's nothing special.

This. Though couldn't the same be said about Pain?

As a child, he was shown to be a prodigy. He was a genius ninja. While Sasuke was also meant to be a "genius", he was under Neji and Lee, and possibly some others. He also never reached the same levels of Itachi.

But, yes, he also uses some eye hax.

Do all of the high powered ninja in Naruto use some form of hax or another?

No, of course not.

None of the sannin used hax. (Sage mode is not hax, since one has to train for and earn it legitimately.)

Minato didn't use hax.

Third Hokage didn't use hax.

There are plenty of others.

Would you consider a tailed beast to be hax?

Nah. Tailed Beast can be a HUGE drawback if you can't control it, since it can turn you into a mindless monster.

Training to control them isn't easy. You have to be strong enough to fight it head-on, and you pretty much die if you don't win.

Same for Sage Mode. The training can kill you.

Basically, Naruto has earned all his power-ups respectfully. Sasuke... has not.

For Naruto's nine-tails form and other hosts that could control their beasts, I don't consider it hax.

But.

For example, when Naruto went berserk, lost control of his tailed beast and kicked the shit out of Orochimaru - I consider this hax.

#47 Posted by ComicStooge (12001 posts) - - Show Bio

@greenteaforme said:

For example, when Naruto went berserk, lost control of his tailed beast and kicked the shit out of Orochimaru - I consider this hax.

While that was hax, it was pretty awesome to watch. X)

#48 Posted by Batnandez (511 posts) - - Show Bio

@greenteaforme said:

@Tony_Shark said:

@ComicStooge said:

@greenteaforme said:

@ComicStooge said:

@greenteaforme said:

@ComicStooge said:

@greenteaforme said:

Sasuke isn't very good. He's only won any fight up until now because of his eye hax. As a ninja, he's nothing special.

This. Though couldn't the same be said about Pain?

As a child, he was shown to be a prodigy. He was a genius ninja. While Sasuke was also meant to be a "genius", he was under Neji and Lee, and possibly some others. He also never reached the same levels of Itachi.

But, yes, he also uses some eye hax.

Do all of the high powered ninja in Naruto use some form of hax or another?

No, of course not.

None of the sannin used hax. (Sage mode is not hax, since one has to train for and earn it legitimately.)

Minato didn't use hax.

Third Hokage didn't use hax.

There are plenty of others.

Would you consider a tailed beast to be hax?

Nah. Tailed Beast can be a HUGE drawback if you can't control it, since it can turn you into a mindless monster.

Training to control them isn't easy. You have to be strong enough to fight it head-on, and you pretty much die if you don't win.

Same for Sage Mode. The training can kill you.

Basically, Naruto has earned all his power-ups respectfully. Sasuke... has not.

For Naruto's nine-tails form and other hosts that could control their beasts, I don't consider it hax.

But.

For example, when Naruto went berserk, lost control of his tailed beast and kicked the shit out of Orochimaru - I consider this hax.

Oro held his own, what were you watching?

#49 Posted by redbird3rdboywonder (3862 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman: Yea I hate his guts because of Shippuden. Just because he's Kishimoto's favorite character he gets special treatment that's so apparent in the anime/manga. All of his battles and powerups have been handed to him completely

#50 Posted by Tony_Shark (457 posts) - - Show Bio

@Batnandez said:

@greenteaforme said:

@Tony_Shark said:

@ComicStooge said:

@greenteaforme said:

@ComicStooge said:

@greenteaforme said:

@ComicStooge said:

@greenteaforme said:

Sasuke isn't very good. He's only won any fight up until now because of his eye hax. As a ninja, he's nothing special.

This. Though couldn't the same be said about Pain?

As a child, he was shown to be a prodigy. He was a genius ninja. While Sasuke was also meant to be a "genius", he was under Neji and Lee, and possibly some others. He also never reached the same levels of Itachi.

But, yes, he also uses some eye hax.

Do all of the high powered ninja in Naruto use some form of hax or another?

No, of course not.

None of the sannin used hax. (Sage mode is not hax, since one has to train for and earn it legitimately.)

Minato didn't use hax.

Third Hokage didn't use hax.

There are plenty of others.

Would you consider a tailed beast to be hax?

Nah. Tailed Beast can be a HUGE drawback if you can't control it, since it can turn you into a mindless monster.

Training to control them isn't easy. You have to be strong enough to fight it head-on, and you pretty much die if you don't win.

Same for Sage Mode. The training can kill you.

Basically, Naruto has earned all his power-ups respectfully. Sasuke... has not.

For Naruto's nine-tails form and other hosts that could control their beasts, I don't consider it hax.

But.

For example, when Naruto went berserk, lost control of his tailed beast and kicked the shit out of Orochimaru - I consider this hax.

Oro held his own, what were you watching?

Yeah, but he lost himself. I guess that isn't worth it. Plus, he wasn't really wrecking Oro. Oro was doing pretty well.

Also, he almost killed one of his best friends.