Pacific Rim vs Man of Steel

Rules:

- The Jaegar project get 1 year prep to fight the Kryptonians.

- no morals

VS

Kryptonians:

Rules:

- No prep

- going all out

Fights in Hong Kong.

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Haven't seen PR.

@cybrilious4:

How much knowledge do they have on the kryptonians? Does kryptonite exist in their world?

@thedarklordpandamonium:

They have full knowledge of the Kryptonians

Kryptonite doesn't exist in Man of Steel movie yet.

They detonate the nuclear core and the Kryptonians die.

MoS team blitzes. Those slow Jaegers would never tag them.

It took forever to detonate the core. Plus, if they did, wouldn't that kill the other Jaegers... essentially ending in both sides losing?

It took 60 seconds for Gipsy's core to detonate (slightly more because the damage from the Kaiju fights forced them to set the self-destruct mechanism manually) and Striker detonated much quicker, their only delay came from the pilots saying their goodbyes. The Jaegers were pretty goddamn tough, they could certainly hold out for 60 seconds. Gipsy was a few hundred meters away from Striker when it detonated, and it survived that.

Would they hold up? Keep in mind that they "held up" against monsters that were just as slow as them. How would they do against things smaller than they're used to, something they can't tag, and something that can just stand there and heat vision their way into the cockpit? They should break through the cockpit pretty quickly, since the Jaeger has no means to defend itself other than its armor.

The Jaegers are strong and durable, but they are not versatile nor fast.

Are these robots really that powerful? I've seen gypsy danger up against Godzilla, and damn near an army of Marvel characters.

I don't doubt that they'd hold up, given that they were taking hits from monsters arguably a good deal stronger and tougher than Clark, Zod and Faora. The Category 3 Kaiju that attacked Tokyo in Mako's flashback was uprooting skyscrapers, for instance. Heat vision didn't do anything other than carve through a building. Even if heat vision is that much of a problem, the Jaeger team has a year of prep and knowledge of all Kryptonian abilities as per OP's dictate to strengthen the exterior or reduce the core detonation delay.

Pacific Rim

The problem for the Jaegers is that they are way too slow. The Kryptonians would flit around them with ease evading everything. Plus they are strong enough to eventually pry open the Jaegers or fly them into space.

The Kryptonians win. They are simply too fast and too small to be targeted. The K team is absolutely strong enough to pick the Jaegers apart.

Kal alone stood upto a force that was effectively increasing the mass and gravity of the earth while weakened, i doubt he's gonna have much trouble against a giant robot no matter how cool it is.

The Jaegers weigh thousands of tons. None of the Kryptonians are strong enough to lift that weight and fly them off into space......setting aside the fact that Faora cannot fly....

I got the feeling that Jaegers were stronger and durable than Kryptonians , at least in the movie. The only questionable thing here is speed, but they have been given prep to counter that.

Besides they did have pretty good bombs :)

It took Superman to fly from antartica to Africa in 2 seconds. Imagine superman as a bullet ramming into the jaegers.

Without morals, MoS team wins.

If I said that in an Avengers vs Man of Steel thread, I'd get a lot of hate.

Kryptonians are backed up by Toyman III Hiro Okamura with super robot in the event of an actual Godzilla.

Plus the other Krptonians make no bones about ripping the face and heat raying to death mindless monsters.

With Superman fighting huge monsters he'd have a world of support.

But I think he already has it here.

The jaegers are pretty much tough surviving a nuke in nearly point blank range. Also can the movie kryptonians tank a plasma cannon.? because if not they will be easily vaporized.

With a year of prep the Jaegers should win. They can bulid counters to their heat and x-ray vision, the Kryptonians best weapons.

Prep time is negligible. The jaegers were given years upon years to prep against the kaiju and they barely win against them.

@heymanjack: The Kaiju had better feats than any of the Kryptonians individually

With prep, they do something awesome. Like rocket uppercuts :D

@cybrilious4: Even if they had prep they will have a hard time with the krypotonians speed. Especially Superman's.

Another problem couple with speed is that Superman is far smaller target. Sometimes smaller size give you an advantage, especially in agility and maneuverability.

The Kryptonians' speed and size give them a good shot. They can easily fit into all the nooks and crannies of those bots and mess them up.

@angryhulks: They still have bombs, heaps and heaps of bombs, which shouldnt be as easy for Kryptonians to avoid, we saw them take hints from guns and explosives in the movie.

@killemall: They may beat the other kryptonians but not superman.

Danger close, what if something that small attach to the mecha's back? There are blind spots on the Jaegar, I bet they'll risk friendly fire once you got something the size of a large insect on your back. I think they also rely external cameras, so their field of vision may as well be limited. They have missiles and powerful plasma cannon, but negative things about it is charging time and locking on time, which is quite slow.

Faora can't dodge missile because she relied on her armor for powers, which is actually less powerful than natural power, she did not expose herself to the yellow sun's radiation yet as we see that once Zod take off his helmet, he suddenly develop X-ray vision.

And I remember in the film they say that it took them 14 months to construct even relatively old model. 1 year of prep won't be enough to make the entire new one anyway.

The nuclear one would selfdestruct, and pretty much obliterate them. Even Superman.

Seriously? They can bust into the head of the Jaeger and have the pilots surrender.

@thundergodswrath: Superman can escape the blast. He flew from antartica to africa in 2 seconds when he was first learning how to fly.

Bump, Unless Superman or Zod literally fly directly into the fist of a Jaeger, there is no reason for them to get hit.... If there was no prep, super hearing will let the kryptonians know there are pilots to the Jaegers, X-Ray Vision to find the cockpit, casual knock knock to get in (or just open the top hull) and a tap on the head for a good clean knock out...rinse and repeat about 4 more times....

Since there is prep, a whole YEAR, they plate the innards of the Jaergers with lead, soundproof cockpits more/better thrusters to increase travel and reaction speed, better/reflective armor plating to shield from heat vision (super acid tore through that armor so an upgrade is in odrer) not much else they could do but stock up on nukes and hope they hit....I don't even know if all this prep would do anything but delay the inevitable ... meh

wait, is that one jaeger from australia or the British commonwealth????

Don't forget that the Kryptonian's also have tech.

the kryptonians stomp, but Pacific Rim was a better movie

they dont get prep

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I have not seen pacific rim. But if the robot's major weapon was their size, I don't think they can take out most krytonians shown. Other than that, can they seriously keep up with clark's speed? He kind of flew to antartica in a few minutes.. And zod is around equal to him.

And no. He didn't outrun a blackhole's pull, he was far enough that even lois wasn't hurt by the gravity..

I think only Superman versus all of the Jaegers would be a fair battle since Superman is a lot faster and durable than they are.

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: I don't know if Superman is a "lot" more durable than the Jaegers...Gypsy Danger took a Nuke with barely any damage.

Gypsy Danger did not took the direct blast from the nuke, it was quite a distant from its heat blast. It instead just took the sudden water pressure change. And Gypsy Danger is less advance and less durable than Striker Eureka, which was destroyed by the same nuclear blast.

@ancient_0f_days said:

That may be true but Gipsy was pretty far from the nuke blast. No denying that it can't handle a lot of damage, but it does rip apart easier than it can be bashed in. Also the exposed helmet visor part is fairly weak. I think Superman could breach that particular area and rip the people outside so that the Jaeger would be useless.

That being said the Jaegers do have their own arsenal that could harm Superman, like the Plasma Cannon and Rockets (a helicopter rocket dazed a Juggernaut Kryptonian in Man of Steel). The only problem is that their main offensive, which mainly just consist of strong rocket punches, are too slow to land a hit on Superman.

I don't know if Superman is a "lot" more durable than the Jaegers ..... that is all, and it still stands

Less durable? based on what? Striker was a newer model and it was said to be quicker, but not more durable .... in any case, GD did take a bit of that nuclear blast none the less along with the crushing water that followed. Once again, I don't know if Superman is a "lot" more durable than the Jaegers.

I'm not sure. I think it comes down to if the plasma canon is enough to KO or kill a Kryptonian. I think their punches are to slow to tag one of them, but they could hit with the canon.

@ancient_0f_days:

That is true. However, he must take into account that Gipsy Danger is powered by Nuclear Energy, hence why he could fight against the evolved Kaijus and not be effected by their EMP. Perhaps the Nuclear Energy dependent model protected it from other means of Nuclear Energy more so than other types of Jaegers.

According to the book Pacific Rim: Man, Machines & Monsters, Striker has higher armor strength than Gypsy Danger.

Superman is less durable than the Jaegers, but he's no doubt smaller, faster, more agile, and more maneuverable.

Ya. They're huge, very strong, and very durable. I've seen some ridiculous claims on both sides of the board too. I've sen one where they say GD could take Final Wars Godzilla, which is way over-estimating IMO. I also made a thread to see who everyone else thought could take Gipsy Danger - HERE, and someone said they thought 616 Spiderman would win. That seemed extremely far fetched to me.