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#1 Edited by Cybrilious4 (1766 posts) - - Show Bio

Rules:

- The Jaegar project get 1 year prep to fight the Kryptonians.

- no morals

VS

Kryptonians:

Rules:

- No prep

- going all out

Fights in Hong Kong.

#3 Edited by Cybrilious4 (1766 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

#4 Posted by MonsterStomp (19852 posts) - - Show Bio

Haven't seen PR.

#5 Posted by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio

@cybrilious4:

How much knowledge do they have on the kryptonians? Does kryptonite exist in their world?

#6 Edited by Cybrilious4 (1766 posts) - - Show Bio

@thedarklordpandamonium:

They have full knowledge of the Kryptonians

Kryptonite doesn't exist in Man of Steel movie yet.

#7 Edited by Saren (26009 posts) - - Show Bio

They detonate the nuclear core and the Kryptonians die.

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#8 Posted by JediXMan (31206 posts) - - Show Bio

MoS team blitzes. Those slow Jaegers would never tag them.

They detonate the nuclear core and the Kryptonians die.

It took forever to detonate the core. Plus, if they did, wouldn't that kill the other Jaegers... essentially ending in both sides losing?

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#9 Posted by Saren (26009 posts) - - Show Bio

@jedixman said:

MoS team blitzes. Those slow Jaegers would never tag them.

@citizenbane said:

They detonate the nuclear core and the Kryptonians die.

It took forever to detonate the core. Plus, if they did, wouldn't that kill the other Jaegers... essentially ending in both sides losing?

It took 60 seconds for Gipsy's core to detonate (slightly more because the damage from the Kaiju fights forced them to set the self-destruct mechanism manually) and Striker detonated much quicker, their only delay came from the pilots saying their goodbyes. The Jaegers were pretty goddamn tough, they could certainly hold out for 60 seconds. Gipsy was a few hundred meters away from Striker when it detonated, and it survived that.

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#10 Posted by JediXMan (31206 posts) - - Show Bio

@jedixman said:

MoS team blitzes. Those slow Jaegers would never tag them.

@citizenbane said:

They detonate the nuclear core and the Kryptonians die.

It took forever to detonate the core. Plus, if they did, wouldn't that kill the other Jaegers... essentially ending in both sides losing?

It took 60 seconds for Gipsy's core to detonate (slightly more because the damage from the Kaiju fights forced them to set the self-destruct mechanism manually) and Striker detonated much quicker, their only delay came from the pilots saying their goodbyes. The Jaegers were pretty goddamn tough, they could certainly hold out for 60 seconds. Gipsy was a few hundred meters away from Striker when it detonated, and it survived that.

Would they hold up? Keep in mind that they "held up" against monsters that were just as slow as them. How would they do against things smaller than they're used to, something they can't tag, and something that can just stand there and heat vision their way into the cockpit? They should break through the cockpit pretty quickly, since the Jaeger has no means to defend itself other than its armor.

The Jaegers are strong and durable, but they are not versatile nor fast.

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#11 Posted by GrandSymbiote94 (11690 posts) - - Show Bio

Are these robots really that powerful? I've seen gypsy danger up against Godzilla, and damn near an army of Marvel characters.

#12 Edited by Saren (26009 posts) - - Show Bio

@jedixman said:
@citizenbane said:
@jedixman said:

MoS team blitzes. Those slow Jaegers would never tag them.

@citizenbane said:

They detonate the nuclear core and the Kryptonians die.

It took forever to detonate the core. Plus, if they did, wouldn't that kill the other Jaegers... essentially ending in both sides losing?

It took 60 seconds for Gipsy's core to detonate (slightly more because the damage from the Kaiju fights forced them to set the self-destruct mechanism manually) and Striker detonated much quicker, their only delay came from the pilots saying their goodbyes. The Jaegers were pretty goddamn tough, they could certainly hold out for 60 seconds. Gipsy was a few hundred meters away from Striker when it detonated, and it survived that.

Would they hold up? Keep in mind that they "held up" against monsters that were just as slow as them. How would they do against things smaller than they're used to, something they can't tag, and something that can just stand there and heat vision their way into the cockpit? They should break through the cockpit pretty quickly, since the Jaeger has no means to defend itself other than its armor.

The Jaegers are strong and durable, but they are not versatile nor fast.

I don't doubt that they'd hold up, given that they were taking hits from monsters arguably a good deal stronger and tougher than Clark, Zod and Faora. The Category 3 Kaiju that attacked Tokyo in Mako's flashback was uprooting skyscrapers, for instance. Heat vision didn't do anything other than carve through a building. Even if heat vision is that much of a problem, the Jaeger team has a year of prep and knowledge of all Kryptonian abilities as per OP's dictate to strengthen the exterior or reduce the core detonation delay.

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#13 Posted by dondave (38775 posts) - - Show Bio

Pacific Rim

#14 Posted by bgibs13390 (911 posts) - - Show Bio

The problem for the Jaegers is that they are way too slow. The Kryptonians would flit around them with ease evading everything. Plus they are strong enough to eventually pry open the Jaegers or fly them into space.

#15 Edited by Straynger (229 posts) - - Show Bio

The Kryptonians win. They are simply too fast and too small to be targeted. The K team is absolutely strong enough to pick the Jaegers apart.

#16 Posted by UltimateSMfan (1468 posts) - - Show Bio

Kal alone stood upto a force that was effectively increasing the mass and gravity of the earth while weakened, i doubt he's gonna have much trouble against a giant robot no matter how cool it is.

#17 Edited by Saren (26009 posts) - - Show Bio

The problem for the Jaegers is that they are way too slow. The Kryptonians would flit around them with ease evading everything. Plus they are strong enough to eventually pry open the Jaegers or fly them into space.

The Jaegers weigh thousands of tons. None of the Kryptonians are strong enough to lift that weight and fly them off into space......setting aside the fact that Faora cannot fly....

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#18 Posted by Killemall (18640 posts) - - Show Bio

I got the feeling that Jaegers were stronger and durable than Kryptonians , at least in the movie. The only questionable thing here is speed, but they have been given prep to counter that.

Besides they did have pretty good bombs :)

#19 Edited by heymanjack (716 posts) - - Show Bio

It took Superman to fly from antartica to Africa in 2 seconds. Imagine superman as a bullet ramming into the jaegers.

Without morals, MoS team wins.

#20 Posted by logy5000 (6047 posts) - - Show Bio

@bgibs13390 said:

The problem for the Jaegers is that they are way too slow. The Kryptonians would flit around them with ease evading everything. Plus they are strong enough to eventually pry open the Jaegers or fly them into space.

The Jaegers weigh thousands of tons. None of the Kryptonians are strong enough to lift that weight and fly them off into space......setting aside the fact that Faora cannot fly....

If I said that in an Avengers vs Man of Steel thread, I'd get a lot of hate.

#21 Edited by Ace Thunder (416 posts) - - Show Bio

Kryptonians are backed up by Toyman III Hiro Okamura with super robot in the event of an actual Godzilla.

Plus the other Krptonians make no bones about ripping the face and heat raying to death mindless monsters.

With Superman fighting huge monsters he'd have a world of support.

But I think he already has it here.

#22 Edited by Chibi_cute (4588 posts) - - Show Bio

The jaegers are pretty much tough surviving a nuke in nearly point blank range. Also can the movie kryptonians tank a plasma cannon.? because if not they will be easily vaporized.

#23 Edited by Skyfire (752 posts) - - Show Bio

With a year of prep the Jaegers should win. They can bulid counters to their heat and x-ray vision, the Kryptonians best weapons.

#24 Posted by heymanjack (716 posts) - - Show Bio

Prep time is negligible. The jaegers were given years upon years to prep against the kaiju and they barely win against them.

#25 Posted by Cybrilious4 (1766 posts) - - Show Bio

@heymanjack: The Kaiju had better feats than any of the Kryptonians individually

#26 Edited by OmgOmgWtfWtf (7043 posts) - - Show Bio

With prep, they do something awesome. Like rocket uppercuts :D

pacific-rim

#27 Posted by heymanjack (716 posts) - - Show Bio

@cybrilious4: Even if they had prep they will have a hard time with the krypotonians speed. Especially Superman's.

#28 Posted by AngryHulks (3001 posts) - - Show Bio

I got the feeling that Jaegers were stronger and durable than Kryptonians , at least in the movie. The only questionable thing here is speed, but they have been given prep to counter that.

Besides they did have pretty good bombs :)

Another problem couple with speed is that Superman is far smaller target. Sometimes smaller size give you an advantage, especially in agility and maneuverability.

#29 Posted by Blood_Red_Rage (508 posts) - - Show Bio

The Kryptonians' speed and size give them a good shot. They can easily fit into all the nooks and crannies of those bots and mess them up.

#30 Posted by Killemall (18640 posts) - - Show Bio

@angryhulks: They still have bombs, heaps and heaps of bombs, which shouldnt be as easy for Kryptonians to avoid, we saw them take hints from guns and explosives in the movie.

#31 Posted by heymanjack (716 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall: They may beat the other kryptonians but not superman.

#32 Posted by AngryHulks (3001 posts) - - Show Bio

@angryhulks: They still have bombs, heaps and heaps of bombs, which shouldnt be as easy for Kryptonians to avoid, we saw them take hints from guns and explosives in the movie.

Danger close, what if something that small attach to the mecha's back? There are blind spots on the Jaegar, I bet they'll risk friendly fire once you got something the size of a large insect on your back. I think they also rely external cameras, so their field of vision may as well be limited. They have missiles and powerful plasma cannon, but negative things about it is charging time and locking on time, which is quite slow.

Faora can't dodge missile because she relied on her armor for powers, which is actually less powerful than natural power, she did not expose herself to the yellow sun's radiation yet as we see that once Zod take off his helmet, he suddenly develop X-ray vision.

And I remember in the film they say that it took them 14 months to construct even relatively old model. 1 year of prep won't be enough to make the entire new one anyway.

#33 Posted by New_World_Order (13516 posts) - - Show Bio

The nuclear one would selfdestruct, and pretty much obliterate them. Even Superman.

#34 Posted by jwalser3 (5254 posts) - - Show Bio

Seriously? They can bust into the head of the Jaeger and have the pilots surrender.

The Kryptonians' speed and size give them a good shot. They can easily fit into all the nooks and crannies of those bots and mess them up.

#35 Posted by heymanjack (716 posts) - - Show Bio

@thundergodswrath: Superman can escape the blast. He flew from antartica to africa in 2 seconds when he was first learning how to fly.

#36 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (12349 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump, Unless Superman or Zod literally fly directly into the fist of a Jaeger, there is no reason for them to get hit.... If there was no prep, super hearing will let the kryptonians know there are pilots to the Jaegers, X-Ray Vision to find the cockpit, casual knock knock to get in (or just open the top hull) and a tap on the head for a good clean knock out...rinse and repeat about 4 more times....

Since there is prep, a whole YEAR, they plate the innards of the Jaergers with lead, soundproof cockpits more/better thrusters to increase travel and reaction speed, better/reflective armor plating to shield from heat vision (super acid tore through that armor so an upgrade is in odrer) not much else they could do but stock up on nukes and hope they hit....I don't even know if all this prep would do anything but delay the inevitable ... meh

#37 Posted by Jorgevy (5114 posts) - - Show Bio

wait, is that one jaeger from australia or the British commonwealth????

#38 Posted by heymanjack (716 posts) - - Show Bio

Don't forget that the Kryptonian's also have tech.

#39 Edited by oppagangnamstyle19 (143 posts) - - Show Bio

the kryptonians stomp, but Pacific Rim was a better movie

#40 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (12349 posts) - - Show Bio

Don't forget that the Kryptonian's also have tech.

they dont get prep

but Pacific Rim was a better movie

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

#41 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (19517 posts) - - Show Bio

I have not seen pacific rim. But if the robot's major weapon was their size, I don't think they can take out most krytonians shown. Other than that, can they seriously keep up with clark's speed? He kind of flew to antartica in a few minutes.. And zod is around equal to him.

And no. He didn't outrun a blackhole's pull, he was far enough that even lois wasn't hurt by the gravity..

#42 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20424 posts) - - Show Bio

I think only Superman versus all of the Jaegers would be a fair battle since Superman is a lot faster and durable than they are.

#43 Edited by Ancient_0f_Days (12349 posts) - - Show Bio

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: I don't know if Superman is a "lot" more durable than the Jaegers...Gypsy Danger took a Nuke with barely any damage.

#44 Edited by AngryHulks (3001 posts) - - Show Bio

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: I don't know if Superman is a "lot" more durable than the Jaegers...Gypsy Danger took a Nuke with barely any damage.

Gypsy Danger did not took the direct blast from the nuke, it was quite a distant from its heat blast. It instead just took the sudden water pressure change. And Gypsy Danger is less advance and less durable than Striker Eureka, which was destroyed by the same nuclear blast.

#45 Edited by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20424 posts) - - Show Bio

@ancient_0f_days said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: I don't know if Superman is a "lot" more durable than the Jaegers...Gypsy Danger took a Nuke with barely any damage.

That may be true but Gipsy was pretty far from the nuke blast. No denying that it can't handle a lot of damage, but it does rip apart easier than it can be bashed in. Also the exposed helmet visor part is fairly weak. I think Superman could breach that particular area and rip the people outside so that the Jaeger would be useless.

That being said the Jaegers do have their own arsenal that could harm Superman, like the Plasma Cannon and Rockets (a helicopter rocket dazed a Juggernaut Kryptonian in Man of Steel). The only problem is that their main offensive, which mainly just consist of strong rocket punches, are too slow to land a hit on Superman.

#46 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (12349 posts) - - Show Bio

That may be true but Gipsy was pretty far from the nuke blast. No denying that it can't handle a lot of damage, but it does rip apart easier than it can be bashed in. Also the exposed helmet visor part is fairly weak. I think Superman could breach that particular area and rip the people outside so that the Jaeger would be useless.

That being said the Jaegers do have their own arsenal that could harm Superman, like the Plasma Cannon and Rockets (a helicopter rocket dazed a Juggernaut Kryptonian in Man of Steel). The only problem is that their main offensive, which mainly just consist of strong rocket punches, are too slow to land a hit on Superman.

I don't know if Superman is a "lot" more durable than the Jaegers ..... that is all, and it still stands

Gypsy Danger did not took the direct blast from the nuke, it was quite a distant from its heat blast. It instead just took the sudden water pressure change. And Gypsy Danger is less advance and less durable than Striker Eureka, which was destroyed by the same nuclear blast.

Less durable? based on what? Striker was a newer model and it was said to be quicker, but not more durable .... in any case, GD did take a bit of that nuclear blast none the less along with the crushing water that followed. Once again, I don't know if Superman is a "lot" more durable than the Jaegers.

#47 Edited by tparks (5172 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not sure. I think it comes down to if the plasma canon is enough to KO or kill a Kryptonian. I think their punches are to slow to tag one of them, but they could hit with the canon.

#48 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20424 posts) - - Show Bio

@ancient_0f_days:

That is true. However, he must take into account that Gipsy Danger is powered by Nuclear Energy, hence why he could fight against the evolved Kaijus and not be effected by their EMP. Perhaps the Nuclear Energy dependent model protected it from other means of Nuclear Energy more so than other types of Jaegers.

#49 Posted by AngryHulks (3001 posts) - - Show Bio

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek said:

That may be true but Gipsy was pretty far from the nuke blast. No denying that it can't handle a lot of damage, but it does rip apart easier than it can be bashed in. Also the exposed helmet visor part is fairly weak. I think Superman could breach that particular area and rip the people outside so that the Jaeger would be useless.

That being said the Jaegers do have their own arsenal that could harm Superman, like the Plasma Cannon and Rockets (a helicopter rocket dazed a Juggernaut Kryptonian in Man of Steel). The only problem is that their main offensive, which mainly just consist of strong rocket punches, are too slow to land a hit on Superman.

I don't know if Superman is a "lot" more durable than the Jaegers ..... that is all, and it still stands

@angryhulks said:

Gypsy Danger did not took the direct blast from the nuke, it was quite a distant from its heat blast. It instead just took the sudden water pressure change. And Gypsy Danger is less advance and less durable than Striker Eureka, which was destroyed by the same nuclear blast.

Less durable? based on what? Striker was a newer model and it was said to be quicker, but not more durable .... in any case, GD did take a bit of that nuclear blast none the less along with the crushing water that followed. Once again, I don't know if Superman is a "lot" more durable than the Jaegers.

According to the book Pacific Rim: Man, Machines & Monsters, Striker has higher armor strength than Gypsy Danger.

Superman is less durable than the Jaegers, but he's no doubt smaller, faster, more agile, and more maneuverable.

#50 Posted by tparks (5172 posts) - - Show Bio

Are these robots really that powerful? I've seen gypsy danger up against Godzilla, and damn near an army of Marvel characters.

Ya. They're huge, very strong, and very durable. I've seen some ridiculous claims on both sides of the board too. I've sen one where they say GD could take Final Wars Godzilla, which is way over-estimating IMO. I also made a thread to see who everyone else thought could take Gipsy Danger - HERE, and someone said they thought 616 Spiderman would win. That seemed extremely far fetched to me.