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#1 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (1995 posts) - - Show Bio

3 hours prep, both.

Bloodlusted, morals off.

Battle ends in death.

Battle takes place in the Fire Lord's palace

Round 1: Ozai vs Voldemort (without horcrux)

Round 2: Ozai vs Voldemort (with 1 horcrux)

Who wins?

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#2 Posted by NeonGameWave (7782 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1: Voldemort should win

Round 2: Voldemort stomps

#3 Posted by BlackWind (6332 posts) - - Show Bio

Ozai really has no feats without Sozin's Comet. Except the lightning blast.

#4 Posted by Manhunter_Prime (64 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlackWind said:

Ozai really has no feats without Sozin's Comet. Except the lightning blast.

And Zuko's face.... lol

Also, Horcruxes don't really change anything. Even if they are all destroyed, Voldemort is still as powerful as ever. He takes both rounds.

#5 Posted by dondave (37380 posts) - - Show Bio

Voldemort

#6 Posted by logy5000 (5771 posts) - - Show Bio

Voldemort, easily.

#7 Posted by morgrim (1029 posts) - - Show Bio

Ozai quite easily

voldemort has little to no physical feats

ozai would be speed moving around the place dodging every spell and incantation and once he gets close enough voldemort will die

in the second match keep in mind even with the horcrux voldemort can be forced to the edge of death and he will be weaker than even a baby so yeah ozai again

#8 Posted by Agent9149 (2894 posts) - - Show Bio

Voldermort easily.

#9 Edited by UltimateHero0406 (2171 posts) - - Show Bio

Tom stomps with magical prep.

@morgrim: With prep, Voldemort's win is almost guaranteed. He could even cast an anti fire charm or personal barrier on himself making Ozai's attacks pretty worthless.

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#10 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (1995 posts) - - Show Bio

@morgrim said:

Ozai quite easily

voldemort has little to no physical feats

1. Teleporting at every second while throwing avada kedavra without speaking, and turning a fire whip into a fire snake without even moving or speaking is pretty pshyical

Voldemort raised his wand and another jet of green light streaked at Dumbledore, who turned and was gone in a whirling of his cloak. Next second, he had reappeared behind Voldemort and waved his wand towards the remnants of the fountain. The other statues sprang to life. The statue of the witch ran at Bellatrix, who screamed and sent spells streaming uselessly off its chest, before it dived at her, pinning her to the floor. Meanwhile, the goblin and the house-elf scuttled towards the fireplaces set along the wall and the one-armed centaur galloped at Voldemort, who vanished and reappeared beside the pool. The headless statue thrust Harry backwards, away from the fight, as Dumbledore advanced on Voldemort and the golden centaur cantered around them both.

Taken From: Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, Chapter 36

Another jet of green light flew from behind the silver shield. This time it was the one-armed centaur, galloping in front of Dumbledore, that took the blast and shattered into a hundred pieces, but before the fragments had even hit the floor, Dumbledore had drawn back his wand and waved it as though brandishing a whip. A long thin flame flew from the tip; it wrapped itself around Voldemort, shield and all. For a moment, it seemed Dumbledore had won, but then the fiery rope became a serpent, which relinquished its hold on Voldemort at once and turned, hissing furiously, to face Dumbledore.

Voldemort vanished; the snake reared from the floor, ready to strike--

There was a burst of flame in midair above Dumbledore just as Voldemort reappeared, standing on the plinth in the middle of the pool where so recently the five statues had stood.

'Look out!' Harry yelled.

But even as he shouted, another jet of green light flew at Dumbledore from Voldemort's wand and the snake struck--

Fawkes swooped down in front of Dumbledore, opened his beak wide and swallowed the jet of green light whole: he burst into flame and fell to the floor, small, wrinkled and flightless. At the same moment, Dumbledore brandished his wand in one long, fluid movement--the snake, which had been an instant from sinking its fangs into him, flew high into the air and vanished in a wisp of dark smoke; and the water in the pool rose up and covered Voldemort like a cocoon of molten glass.

Taken From: Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix chapter 36

So teleporting and reappearing at an instant, casting Avada Kedavra without speaking, going too fast for Dumbledore (who had the Elder wand)

I honestly think, due to the source, that Voldemort could overwhelm the Fire Lord like he did Dumbledore.

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#11 Posted by morgrim (1029 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kingjohnrocks:

Um you are aware that for all his skills dumbeldore is like 90 right? He isnt exactly in his PEAK physical form. Ozai is a martial arts master who can move incredibly fast. Whereas teleporting isnt much for voldemort because even harry, ron and hermione were able to dodge spells fired by teleporting wizards {plural} plus avada kedvra can be easily dodged if you have the skill and speed which ozai does. It would be a slaughter voldemort cant beat ozai

#12 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (1995 posts) - - Show Bio

@morgrim said:

@Kingjohnrocks:

Um you are aware that for all his skills dumbeldore is like 90 right? He isnt exactly in his PEAK physical form. Ozai is a martial arts master who can move incredibly fast. Whereas teleporting isnt much for voldemort because even harry, ron and hermione were able to dodge spells fired by teleporting wizards {plural} plus avada kedvra can be easily dodged if you have the skill and speed which ozai does. It would be a slaughter voldemort cant beat ozai

1. This does not explain how Ozai will dodge multiple Avada Kedavras, and an Imperio curse (which he can't escape because Imperio would take over his mind and his entire body before he could even shoot a blast of fire).

2. Firing spells at instant, teleporting at instant with little effort is all fast. Harry potter is the most powerful wizard, deemed Master Death after all deadly hallows, yet he couldn't avoid getting his butt kicked by Voldemort because Voldemort used the circuas curse on him and did multiple mental spells onto him and he couldn't resist it. Also, Ozai is no wizard and Ozai can NOT teleport, Ozai can NOT resist mind control, Ozai can not dodge Imperio, Sectumsempra, or multiple Avada Kedavras as much.

3. Dumbledore has very little feats from his peak form, so that doesn't even count. And Dumbledore was still considered the most powerful Wizard of that time, hell, THIS is a weakened dumbledore:

But then, through the darkness, fire erupted: crimson and gold, a ring of fire that surrounded the rock so that the Inferi holding Harry so tightly stumbled and faltered; they did not dare pass through the flames to get to the water. They dropped Harry; he hit the ground, slipped on the rock, and fell, grazing his arms, then scrambled back up, raising his wand and staring around.

Dumbledore was on his feet again, pale as any of the surrounding Inferi, but taller than any too, the fire dancing in his eyes; his wand was raised like a torch and from its tip emanated the flames, like a vast lasso, encircling them all with warmth.

The Inferi bumped into each other, attempting, blindly, to escape the fire in which they were enclosed...

Dumbledore scooped the locket from the bottom of the stone basin and stowed it inside his robes. Wordlessly, he gestured to Harry to come to his side. Distracted by the flames, the Inferi seemed unaware that their quarry was leaving as Dumbledore led Harry back to the boat, the ring of fire moving with them, around them, the bewildered Inferi accompanying them to the waters edge, where they slipped gratefully back into their dark waters.

Harry, who was shaking all over, thought for a moment that Dumbledore might not be able to climb into the boat; he staggered a little as he attempted it; all his efforts seemed to be going into maintaining the ring of protective flame around them. Harry seized him and helped him back to his seat. Once they were both safely jammed inside again, the boat began to move back across the black water, away from the rock, still encircled by that ring of fire, and it seemed that the Inferi swarming below them did not dare resurface.

-Taken From: Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince

Wow, so he

1. Performed wordless magic

2. Created a everlasting ring of fire and maintained it long after they left the cave.

3. Saved Harry Potter from becoming one of Voldemort's guardians.

That's a weakened Dumbledore, Dumbledore was not weakened in his duel against Voldemort, and still was overwhelmed.

So, Voldemort should have this one.

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#13 Posted by morgrim (1029 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kingjohnrocks:

To let you know from now avada kedvra is NOT instantaneous, it like every other spell takes an amount of time {albeit seconds} to reach the target as such ozai is more than capable of dodging a giant green burst of light that regular human level characters like harry or even children like ginny have been shown to dodge

Secondly apparition may be fast but it does not garantee the element of surprise. As there is a moment between when you appear and cast the spell when a person can dodge. In the goblet of fire, several wizards teleported directly to harry, herminone and ron yet they dodged all spells fired by simply ducking. as such voldemort teleporting will not be much of a game changer

Lastly as it relates to mind control it has been stated that a strong enough mind can resist imperio and as demonstrated in the series finale of avatar ozais mind and spirit was strong enough to contend with and nearly take over the avatar. Who is by definition the very physical embodyment of the planet

So yeah Ozai stomp

#14 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (1995 posts) - - Show Bio

To let you know from now avada kedvra is NOT instantaneous, it like every other spell takes an amount of time {albeit seconds

Oh really?

Voldemort raised his wand and another jet of green light streaked at Dumbledore,

-Taken from: Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix

'By which time I shall be gone, and you will be dead!' spat Voldemort. He sent another killing curse at Dumbledore

Taken from: Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix

Another jet of green light flew from behind the silver shield. This time it was the one-armed centaur, galloping in front of Dumbledore, that took the blast and shattered into a hundred pieces,

Taken from: Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix

but before the fragments had even hit the floor, Dumbledore had drawn back his wand and waved it as though brandishing a whip. A long thin flame flew from the tip; it wrapped itself around Voldemort, shield and all. For a moment, it seemed Dumbledore had won, but then the fiery rope became a serpent, which relinquished its hold on Voldemort at once and turned, hissing furiously, to face Dumbledore.

Voldemort vanished; the snake reared from the floor, ready to strike--

There was a burst of flame in midair above Dumbledore just as Voldemort reappeared, standing on the plinth in the middle of the pool where so recently the five statues had stood.

'Look out!' Harry yelled.

But even as he shouted, another jet of green light flew at Dumbledore from Voldemort's wand and the snake struck--

Fawkes swooped down in front of Dumbledore, opened his beak wide and swallowed the jet of green light whole: he burst into flame and fell to the floor, small, wrinkled and flightless.

Taken from: Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix

Voldemort was teleporting AT INSTANT(you can't deny that unless J.K rowling told you something she didn't tell us) that's a CANON fact. Ozai can not handle a being who teleports AT INSTANT, flings spells AT instant, can possess him as he teleports. Yes, what;s stopping voldemort from teleporting at instant and then possessing Ozai? Ozai has no telepathic/mind control resistant feats. Ozai would get possessed and would then scorch himself to death.

to reach the target as such ozai is more than capable of dodging a giant green burst of light that regular human level characters like harry or even children like ginny have been shown to dodge

Harry potter = Master death. Not just a lone teenager who's weak.

Secondly apparition may be fast but it does not garantee the element of surprise. As there is a moment between when you appear and cast the spell when a person can dodge.

This is an opinion and speculation. Show me Ozai fighting a guy who teleports at instant, and casts at instant. If you can't then I'l start to ignore your speculation and just ask for feats. Show me the feats.

In the goblet of fire, several wizards teleported directly to harry, herminone and ron yet they dodged all spells fired by simply ducking.

They did not teleport at instant and hurl spells at him as they were teleporting. Also, Voldemort could have put a mind control spell on all of them and beat them senseless.

as such voldemort teleporting will not be much of a game changer

Show me Ozai fighting a guy who casts at instant, teleports at instant. Eventually Ozai is going to get tired, even he, a human can get tired. Voldemort is borderline immortal, not a average man..

Lastly as it relates to mind control it has been stated that a strong enough mind can resist imperio and as demonstrated in the series finale of avatar ozais mind and spirit was strong enough to contend with and nearly take over the avatar. Who is by definition the very physical embodyment of the planet

Where did it demonstrate Ozai's MIND taking over the Avatar? Ozai was trying to scorch the Avatar for goodness sakes, not take him over! His spirit? Oi. Where are your sources? I've seen every episode of Avatar and he never did this. Also, that big power was during the comet, this is not sozin's comet! He has no telepathic resistant feats, no feats concerned to mind control. Ozai is losing this one. Unless you can show me him resisting mind control, resisting possession, and a telepathic feat, then Voldemort still wins. End. Of. Story.

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#15 Posted by joewell (6361 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kingjohnrocks: Atleast give Ozai Sozin's Comet