Owlman vs Bronze Tiger both are from DC

@Ferro Vida said:

I'd say Bronze Tiger. He's been able to beat Batman in hand to hand without too much trouble, so logically he would be able to beat an alternate reality version of Batman.

No he has'nt,but he still wins cause Owlman is featless.

@Ferro Vida said:

@entropy_aegis: Yes, he has. On at least two occasions, the second of which Batman has prep for.

He was talking with Kathy when Tiger and the LOA attacked him,Tiger just kicked him and left.

There's a difference between prep and simply using an antidote to a particular poison which the LOA used frequently(and which they did in that fight).If Batman had prep then he would have taken some special equipment or armor but last time I checked that never happened.He fought Tiger h2h and he actually had the upperhand until the Sensei's men butted in.

They had another fight after that in which neither could gain the upperhand on the other.

@Ferro Vida said:

@entropy_aegis: See, I keep seeing people say this about Batman with prep. Except he has prep all the time. He could easily build himself a suit of armor that would make him bulletproof, and they he wouldn't have to worry about guys like Bane or punks with guns. He doesn't do this very often, though. Not outside of Justice League books, anyway. So I think that claim is bullshit. It's generally out of character for Batman to do something like that against a street level character. If you can prove otherwise, then please do so.

There's a difference,he actually has used an explosion against Bane.He did nothing to Tiger outside of fighting him h2h,there's no prep or anything close to that involved.

@Ferro Vida said:

@entropy_aegis: If there's a difference then don't say he will do something that he won't do. He used an explosion against Bane once. Has he done that kind of thing against any other villain on a consistent basis?

He used the explosion to destroy a virus not Bane,Bane just happened to be in the way.The point is rather simple,Batman did not use prep against Tiger,seriously he just went to the cave picked up the antidote and left to face Tiger.

How about you actually prove that Batman used prep of any kind.

@beatboks1 said:

@entropy_aegis said:

@Ferro Vida said:

@entropy_aegis: Yes, he has. On at least two occasions, the second of which Batman has prep for.

He was talking with Kathy when Tiger and the LOA attacked him,Tiger just kicked him and left.

That I agree with. A surprise kick to the solar plexus and then VT was gone, while Bruce was winded.

@entropy_aegis said:

There's a difference between prep and simply using an antidote to a particular poison which the LOA used frequently(and which they did in that fight).If Batman had prep then he would have taken some special equipment or armor but last time I checked that never happened.He fought Tiger h2h and he actually had the upperhand until the Sensei's men butted in.

They had another fight after that in which neither could gain the upperhand on the other.

Bruce hardly had the upper hand. It was evenly held between the two. the thought balloons of both confirmed it. If it hadn't been for the LOA member hitting Bruce with the poison dart ( that action because of it's dishonor making Turner turn on the LOA present) it would have been a stalemate. I do agree it Pisses me off how everyone says BT beats Bruce when in a straight up confrontation he's only ever matched him.

Also I'm pretty sure they've now face 3 or 4 more times without a result. (one in JLA, one in SS, and JLTF IIRC)

They fought twice after that,Bruce oneshotted him with a cheapshot in their last encounter.

@Ferro Vida said:

@entropy_aegis: He went to the cave and picked up the antidote. That implies that he had an idea of what he would be facing. He used time prior to the fight to prepare for something that he thought was going to happen. Logically, that qualifies as prep time. You still haven't answered my question. Has he done what you said he would against any street level character on a consistent basis?

Maybe it does,but that's not how prep is used in the battle forums here and it's more along the line of common sense that's like saying that wearing coats and gloves in winter=prep,it has no relevance in this fight and it had nothing do with Tiger.You're just misleading people by saying that Batman needed prep,they're just gonna go "Holy Crap" for no reason at all.

Batman has come up with plenty of plans against street level characters,the Black Glove for instance but I'm not bringing it up here intentionally because it has more to do with plot and has no meaning on these forums.