Wolverine can surive an atomic bomb. Wolverine is able to take down sentinels now i am not saying that a sentinel would stack up to Optimus but i assume they are both giant robotic things so they must come apart the same way plus Optimus i don't think has any atomic bombs and even if he did it wouldn't kill Wolverine.
" Wolverine can surive an atomic bomb. Wolverine is able to take down sentinels now i am not saying that a sentinel would stack up to Optimus but i assume they are both giant robotic things so they must come apart the same way plus Optimus i don't think has any atomic bombs and even if he did it wouldn't kill Wolverine. "
"Wolverine can surive an atomic bomb. Wolverine is able to take down sentinels now i am not saying that a sentinel would stack up to Optimus but i assume they are both giant robotic things so they must come apart the same way plus Optimus i don't think has any atomic bombs and even if he did it wouldn't kill Wolverine. "
Yeah but that doesn't mean a sentiel and optimus are made of the same material. Sentinels are like paper. How do we even know Wolverine's claws can cut through whatever optimus is made of?
"Wolverine can surive an atomic bomb. Wolverine is able to take down sentinels now i am not saying that a sentinel would stack up to Optimus but i assume they are both giant robotic things so they must come apart the same way plus Optimus i don't think has any atomic bombs and even if he did it wouldn't kill Wolverine. "
Yeah but that doesn't mean a sentiel and optimus are made of the same material. Sentinels are like paper. How do we even know Wolverine's claws can cut through whatever optimus is made of? "
I don't see why his claws couldn't cut through Prime seeing as how he can cut through Sentinals and the Hulk's hide. The main thing I want to know is when he survived a nuke because I'm not a big expert on Wolverine and this is the first time I'm hearing about this.
"Wolverine can surive an atomic bomb. Wolverine is able to take down sentinels now i am not saying that a sentinel would stack up to Optimus but i assume they are both giant robotic things so they must come apart the same way plus Optimus i don't think has any atomic bombs and even if he did it wouldn't kill Wolverine. "
Yeah but that doesn't mean a sentiel and optimus are made of the same material. Sentinels are like paper. How do we even know Wolverine's claws can cut through whatever optimus is made of? "
I don't see why his claws couldn't cut through Prime seeing as how he can cut through Sentinals and the Hulk's hide. The main thing I want to know is when he survived a nuke because I'm not a big expert on Wolverine and this is the first time I'm hearing about this. "
Well the sentinels are made of steel and other earth metals and the hulk's skin is just thick durable skin, that doesn't mean Wolverine's claws could cut through optimus. Prime is made of something Wolverine has never confronted, something his claws have never tested. So why should i or anyone else just assume that his claws will be able to just cut through him?
Anyone have scans of Optimus being damaged by something other than a blaster?
As much as I hate Wolverine and love Peter Cullen, I'm gonna go with the x-man here. Adamantium is just too much for OP's skin... But then again, feel free to prove me wrong. I would love OP to win...
You can make the case that Wolverine has got adamantium claws and has a healing factor and enhanced reflexes and whatever. But at the end of the day all Optimus has to really do is pick him up and throw him in any direction he pleases. Heck, if he doesn't want to trouble himself with bending over Wolverine is just one toe-punt away from a field goal
" Well the sentinels are made of steel and other earth metals and the hulk's skin is just thick durable skin, that doesn't mean Wolverine's claws could cut through optimus. Prime is made of something Wolverine has never confronted, something his claws have never tested. So why should i or anyone else just assume that his claws will be able to just cut through him? Anyone have scans of Optimus being damaged by something other than a blaster? "
In the current TF comic series, the only beings I remember hurting Optimus without a blaster were Megatron, but one of those times he was being powered up by super-energon so he overpowered Prime, though later in All Hail Megatron they were pretty equal. Then he was later having trouble against Sixshot, but Sixshot had armor made from really dense material found in the core of stars. He was literally taking all of the Autobot's blasters without any ill-effects and he actually survived being stepped on by Metroplex - a city-sized Transformer - though he was badly damaged as a result. Then in All Hail Megatron, he was nearly killed by Devastator, a giant combiner Transformer. Those are the only times I recall Optimus in the current TF series being hurt by something other than a blaster.
Optimus can get hurt by Logan's claws. Logan can win but he would have to play smart and use his surroundings. For whatever reason Wolverine can sever a Sentinal's entire arm even though his claw isn't long enough to go straight through it. That bit of reality bending is the only reason he has a shot.
I assume the person making that comment was talking about when the character Nitro exploded right next to Wolverine and he recovered extremely fast.
Wolverine doesn't need to get killed to lose this though. It seems people are forgetting that. Prime could KO Wolvie and get the win pretty easy imo. I do think this is borderline spite.
Yeah... I still have to back Optimus, just because I find it a stretch to believe that Cybertron's materials are equally as crappy as the Sentinel's covering, lol...
@MrDirector786: I am assuming Optimus could amp his durability with the Matrix possibly, though I've never seen him do so?... and I dont know just how powerful his standard issue blaster is, but based on its power source, could it pack just as hard of a punch as a small, rapid firing nuke device?
If that could be cleared up, then I may give Logan a loooong shot at victory....
Technically Megatron's arm cannon is nuclear powered. Of course that doesn't make much sense. Transformers' blaster power is completely plot related. =)
@MisterGuyMan: Lol, thats right. Good 'ol Megatron packing some nuclear heat on his arm! Yeah, it makes me think of how GI Joe laser pistols have like a -12% accuracy rating when in huge battles...lol
" Technically Megatron's arm cannon is nuclear powered. Of course that doesn't make much sense. Transformers' blaster power is completely plot related. =) "
Yeah, it's called a "fusion" cannon yet it doesn't actually seem to be that powerful. The biggest thing I remember him doing with his fusion cannon was knocking down a large building with one shot in All Hail Megatron.
" Yeah... I still have to back Optimus, just because I find it a stretch to believe that Cybertron's materials are equally as crappy as the Sentinel's covering, lol...
@MrDirector786: I am assuming Optimus could amp his durability with the Matrix possibly, though I've never seen him do so?... and I dont know just how powerful his standard issue blaster is, but based on its power source, could it pack just as hard of a punch as a small, rapid firing nuke device? If that could be cleared up, then I may give Logan a loooong shot at victory.... "
I've never seen him amp himself with the Matrix before.
@MrDirector786: Ok. So I'm back to hoping the materials he is made of are some hi-tech future type stuff, far ahead of anything the Sentinels are comprised of...lol.
" @MrDirector786: Ok. So I'm back to hoping the materials he is made of are some hi-tech future type stuff, far ahead of anything the Sentinels are comprised of...lol. "
Well, from this scan, the Decepticons called the materials on Earth soft and flimsy. I also posted that scan above of a truck crashing into Prime and Prime didn't have any ill-effects and he wasn't even moved which I think shows some of his durability.
@MrDirector786: Awesome scan! Optimus taking that truck crashing into him without flinching was good too.
So Optimus I think should be able to take Logan's attacks to some degree. Logan is a tough little guy though. Does Optimus have any atomizing attacks...? Or strength showings that would equal what WWHulk did to Logan (the punching his head until he momentarily passed out thing)? This may come down to who can last the longest...
I hate thinking that Optimus isn't guaranteed a win...lol
@whacknasty: He doesn't have any atomizing attacks that I know of, but the greatest strength feat I know of that he has was when he managed to do some damage to Sixshot's armor with a punch. Sixshot was literally taking blasts from all the Autobots and they couldn't even scratch him and then he told them that his armor is made from the dense material found in a collapsed star.
Wolverine would hardly qualify as the Cybertronian's "Darkest hour". If it could be used on just anything, Prime would have hada MUCH easier time with the Decepticons. @HumanNumber said:
"Well the sentinels are made of steel and other earth metals and the hulk's skin is just thick durable skin, that doesn't mean Wolverine's claws could cut through optimus. Prime is made of something Wolverine has never confronted, something his claws have never tested. So why should i or anyone else just assume that his claws will be able to just cut through him? Anyone have scans of Optimus being damaged by something other than a blaster? "
Depending on the incarnation, Prime has been cut open by sharp rocks thrown into him.
And just plain physical force from the other transformers. (1:17 would be what appears to be sharp rock. Which is actually part of the city that just falls apart being hit by both Megatron and Prime's body, so this super metal that you keep talking about isn't that durable.)
Now this fight for me honestly depends on if Prime can tag Wolverine. If he can't, Wolverine will chop him to pieces and again depending on the actual incarnation of Prime, for example G1, it wouldn't take much for Wolverine to damage to bring him down.
I'm not as knowledge on optimus prime as I am wolverine... but... I always believe wolverine would lose to anyone who can fly indefinitely. I guess the winner of this one depends on the place of fighting. If in an enclosed place, wolvy, if anywhere not enclosed...Optimus prime. Seriously, flight has a HUGE strategic value in these battles.
I guess it does sort of depend on the incarnation of Prime. I'm using the IDW G1 comic series since it's the current canon comic series. It's never been clear to me whether the G1 cartoon or the G1 comics are the canon to Transformers, and before anyone asks no they are not set in the same continuity and it's been stated by the writers that the G1 comics aren't in the same continuity as the cartoon. In fact, anyone who reads the comics and watches the show can see that they are not in the same continuity.
"You can make the case that Wolverine has got adamantium claws and has a healing factor and enhanced reflexes and whatever. But at the end of the day all Optimus has to really do is pick him up and throw him in any direction he pleases. Heck, if he doesn't want to trouble himself with bending over Wolverine is just one toe-punt away from a field goal "
If it's a fight to the death, I think wolverine would win, because I'm not sure Optimus could kill him. fight to KO, I think it's a pretty even match, given wolverine's stamina, heal factor, and martial arts training.
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