"Onslaught beats the stuffing out of jean grey and kills her off forever. Then Shuma Gorath and he go on a mindless killing rampage, and onslaught gets eaten by shuma gorath later.
1) If Onslaught wanted to; He could erase Shuma Gorath from existance. But the whole battle would be determined on who would make the 1st move.
2) I would have to go with Onslaught anyway because he has the power to absorb and use others powers and so on.. So let's say if Onslaught got to Phoenix 1st, no matter which version of her/it.... And then Galactus... Thor... Cyttorak.... etc.... Shuma would probably stand no chance at all.
3) And as for Phoenix.... If she can't tell if something is an illusion from Onslaught, then we already know, that she is nowhere anywhere near his power.
"@vegeta said:"isnt it said there is nothing the pheonix can do she can do anything her mind wants "Uatu explained her power as such, "she only had to think and that thought would become reality" "
" @Phoenix of the Black Throne: Onslaught with Professor X, Magneto, X-Man and Franklin Richards should beat any Phoenix, except for White Phoenix. May I ask why you think not? "
" Jean said Onslaught was the most powerful esper she ever encountered, Jean not channeling the Phoenix will lose, Jean in any Phoenix incarnation wins. "Agreed. Onslaught would not be able to defeat Dark Phoenix, White Phoenix of the Crown, the Phoenix Force itself or Green Phoenix. However, Onslaught would have a much better chance at defeating Green Phoenix since Green Phoenix tries to limit the amount of power she uses, unlike Dark Phoenix. The Phoenix Force and White Phoenix of the Crown are both multiversal, so Onslaught would have no chance of defeating them.
@iceprincess.. are you sure that onslaught can just " stripping her the Phoenix Force" the reason why i say that is because
.. remember that issue when Galactus tried separating the Phoenix Force from then host Rachel Summers and release it back to the universe? as he was doing it, stars started going dim and were dying.. later, omniversal guardian Roma, Uatu the Watcher and even Death itself appeared before Galactus and told him that he cannot separate the host from the Phoenix forcefully, for if he does, all life will cease to exist and no spark of life will ever come about.. that is probably why the Phoenix is described to be immortal, indestructible and mutable for it symbolizes everything that pertains to life itself
with that being said i think that onslaught is wayy too intelligent and cares about his own life too much (the fact that he would be irritating the very source of his existence) to piss the force off like that..
i agree that he would win THIS battle.. jean is wayy too human and she holds back most of her own power, way too much compassion, love, and moral reasoningg.. this is the phoenix's only weakness if you think about it loll
onslaught would win... the only phoenix that could beat him is one that is multiversal like the white crown.Actually, the only way Onslaught would win is if Phoenix fights him face to face. It is the White Hot Room that is >>> Onslaught. So if Phoenix is inside the HWR, she can defeat Onslaught from there.