Onslaught Vs. Holocaust

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-000 says:

"Eternal Chaos says:

"Onslaught"

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What?

Well, there's all that life force absorbtion I hear about. Just wondered.

I don't know. Iceman and Cyclops threw him around a bit. Iceman froze him, and Cyclops shot his ass across a room, giving the rest of the team time to prepare for battle stations.

Eternal Chaos says:

"But Onslaught was thrown around that easily? Well that again... Iceman is an omni potent mutant.. Well, now that I think about, I can sort of picture it..."

Iceman is not omnipotent, he's an omega level mutant.

And just for argument's sake, Holocaust.

Eternal Chaos says:

"Well that's what I ment, omega level. What makes you say Holocaust?"

I think with his life draining ability, and his father's technology, he'd absorb Onsluaght, since he's pretty much just a big energy being.

Eternal Chaos says:

"Onslaught might absorb Holocaust as well."

If he does, though, those people still exist within him. Therefore, Holocaust could absorb Onslaught from the inside.

Eternal Chaos says:

"But wouldn't Holocaust be powerless like an empty shell?"

No, because when Onslaught absorbs people, they live inside of him. So he'd take Holocaust in, then BAM! Dead.

Eternal Chaos says:

"Well here's my question. Why didn't Holocaust do that earlier against Onslaught, or when he fought Nate?"

Because they didn't absorb him, and didn't give him a chance to absorb them. If Onslaught did absorb Holocaust, it'd be a done deal, cause Onslaught would have no where to run.

But the way I see it, Onslaught either takes over his mind, or he midewipes him.

Well, it took the evil Hypirion to rip Holocaust apart.

He couldn't beat Hulk.

Yes.

He never absorbed Pheonix. The only people he absorbed was Nate and Franklin Richards. And after all that, he couldn't beat Hulk in a fist fight.

It was, but he pinned Hulk down, mind you it was a mindless Hulk (Savage Hulk), and he started to get angry, and he broke away from Onslaught, and punched him hard enough to break his psionic shield. Then everyone absorbed the energy matter, died, and Onslaught was defeated.

Octagon Freak says:

"But the way I see it, Onslaught either takes over his mind, or he midewipes him. "

I doubt it, Onslaught almost never did that. He's too egotistical, and thinks he has to go up against everyone in a fist fight, or, if his opponent is a telepath, a mind fight. So he fist fights Holocuast, wins, absorbs him. Holocaust wakes up, and absorbs Onslaught.

Ahh, but Onslaught's a little smarter than that. If he knows that, then he wouldn't absorb him. He doesn't need to.

Octagon Freak says:

"Ahh, but Onslaught's a little smarter than that. If he knows that, then he wouldn't absorb him. He doesn't need to."

Doesn't need to, but would most likely want to. Holocaust is a class 5 mutant, and is near Omega. So if Onslaught had the chance, why not?

Because he believes that he is already all powerful, and probably can't get any more so.

Octagon Freak says:

"Because he believes that he is already all powerful, and probably can't get any more so."

But that's not how Onslaught thinks. His mind-set is to always increase his power.

Eternal Chaos says:

"Onslaught might use telekinetics to slam Holocaust over and over, and when he's dead, he'll absorb is power."

He can't absorb powers, he uses them alive to use their powers.

And Holocaust is invulnerable to physical damage, except mystic powers :P

Eternal Chaos says:

"I read that too. Wait a sec dude, being that Onslaught is a reality warper, he can probably tear him apart on a molecular level. Another thing he can do is toss him into the sun or in a Volcano"

Sun and volcano wouldn't affect him. And I doubt he'd resort to the molecular thing.

Well, we've never seen him have molecular control on that level.

But if that was true, why didn't he tear Hulk apart while they were fighting?

Eternal Chaos says:

"He probably wouldn't do it, which is true, but it is within range so Onslaught would be able to tear Holocaust apart on a molecular level. (He's really cool too, one of my favorites, and I mean Holocaust lol)"

Yeah, just depends on what Onslaught feels like that day, and if he gets too cocky.

Octagon Freak says:

"But if that was true, why didn't he tear Hulk apart while they were fighting?"

He did, he separated Hulk from Banner.

Octagon Enigma says:

"Octagon Freak says:

"But if that was true, why didn't he tear Hulk apart while they were fighting?"

He did, he separated Hulk from Banner."

No, the explosion of his armor being ripped off separated them. I meant like rip him strait down the middle.