" Galactus, Onslaught is a planetary threat with some nice tricks like telepathy, magnetism and reality warping Galactus is a galaxy level threat and if the fight is close Galactus can always snack on Onslaught for more energy "
Onslaught created a sun :|
With that said, Galactus makes Onslaught his herald.
" Galactus, Onslaught is a planetary threat with some nice tricks like telepathy, magnetism and reality warping Galactus is a galaxy level threat and if the fight is close Galactus can always snack on Onslaught for more energy "
Onslaught created a sun :| With that said, Galactus makes Onslaught his herald. "
onslaught throws his most powerful attack at galactus who then grabs his moon sized can of off and sprays around his toes and wanders off without any further discomfort
" Onslaught is a match for Vulcan, Blackheart and Thor. "
None of them are a match for Onslaught. IIRC, Thor actually died fighting Onslaught. "
Onslaught is made out of pure psionic energy. Vulcan is a powerful energy manipulator/absorber. Now, given canon, he loses, but if written properly without all that immaturity and silliness, then Vulcan can .... defeat him. Thor: I thought that he just jumped into his body to disperse it at the end. Anyway, with Odinforce, Thor would own him. Onslaught has no defense against demonic powers. This goes for Blackheart. "
Onslaught is a low level reality warper and a massive telepathic power. Being formed out of energy doesn't mean Vulcan can manipulate hos composition. You're jumping to a conclusion you can't prove. Given canon, he defeated Jospeh (Magneto sans the mental blocks that kept his power in check), Thor, Nate Grey, Bishop, and created a second sun. How can Vulcan match him?
On the note of Blackheart, you have no proof of this. Thor is a mystical being, yet Onslaught had no problem fighting him. Saying he has no defense against "demonic power" is a baseless claim.
Thor doesn't go around using OF every other panel. He didn't use it against Rulk when he got owned, or Sentry, so let's assume for some reason, like in those fights, he's not Super Thor, just Thor with Mjolnir.
" @Edamame: thor? really?? one on one with Onslaught? "
Thor with Odinforce owns him. Yes.
Why disagree?
@Lance Uppercut said:
" @Edamame said:
" @Lance Uppercut said:
" @Edamame said:
" Onslaught is a match for Vulcan, Blackheart and Thor. "
None of them are a match for Onslaught. IIRC, Thor actually died fighting Onslaught. "
Onslaught is made out of pure psionic energy. Vulcan is a powerful energy manipulator/absorber. Now, given canon, he loses, but if written properly without all that immaturity and silliness, then Vulcan can .... defeat him. Thor: I thought that he just jumped into his body to disperse it at the end. Anyway, with Odinforce, Thor would own him. Onslaught has no defense against demonic powers. This goes for Blackheart. "
Onslaught is a low level reality warper and a massive telepathic power. Being formed out of energy doesn't mean Vulcan can manipulate hos composition. You're jumping to a conclusion you can't prove. Given canon, he defeated Jospeh (Magneto sans the mental blocks that kept his power in check), Thor, Nate Grey, Bishop, and created a second sun. How can Vulcan match him? On the note of Blackheart, you have no proof of this. Thor is a mystical being, yet Onslaught had no problem fighting him. Saying he has no defense against "demonic power" is a baseless claim. "
Well, he just tricked Nate Grey when he was with Sinister. I remember Thor flying through Onslaught to get Xavier out of Onslaught. I said that Vulcan should be able to match him. Onslaught's attacks might only empower Vulcan because they would all be energy based. "
I hardly think his ability to mind rape or the abilities he used to create a second sun were energy based.
It doesn't look like he tricked Nate in to anything. It looks like he quite forcibly absorbed Nate in to his being.
@Edamame: I don't think you and I are talking about the same encounter.
When Blackbolt screams, electrons and energy are being exerted. When Gladiator punched him, kinetic energy was being exerted. When Havok overloaded Vulcan, well, there was a lot of energy being exerted their, and Vulcan couldn't work past those.
" @Edamame: I don't think you and I are talking about the same encounter. When Blackbolt screams, electrons and energy are being exerted. When Gladiator punched him, kinetic energy was being exerted. When Havok overloaded Vulcan, well, there was a lot of energy being exerted their, and Vulcan couldn't work past those. "
This was in the Onslaught saga, which is 4 books all together. ???? Because Vulcan is an immature and inexperienced baby. LOL. Once Vulcan gets to Magneto's level, he will become a dangerous opponent, assuming that he is skilled at that point and is not immature or arrogant. "
He won't get to Magneto's level. Mainly because he's dead (though we all know how that goes). His power set just doesn't stack up.
" @Edamame: I don't think you and I are talking about the same encounter. When Blackbolt screams, electrons and energy are being exerted. When Gladiator punched him, kinetic energy was being exerted. When Havok overloaded Vulcan, well, there was a lot of energy being exerted their, and Vulcan couldn't work past those. "
This was in the Onslaught saga, which is 4 books all together. ???? Because Vulcan is an immature and inexperienced baby. LOL. Once Vulcan gets to Magneto's level, he will become a dangerous opponent, assuming that he is skilled at that point and is not immature or arrogant. "
He won't get to Magneto's level. Mainly because he's dead (though we all know how that goes). His power set just doesn't stack up. "
??? Being an energy manipulator/absorber is quite versatile. There is energy in everyone's brain. He can just suck it dry and shut their minds down. Most things in the Universe are energy based anyway. That makes him a threat. "
Everything in the universe is made of energy. Theoretically, he should have been performing Magneto's feats years ago. I mean, Magneto's powers are based on control of the EM Spectrum, but he's shown versatility far greater then anything I've ever seen from Vulcan. You''re assumptions as to what he could do are irrelevant when he hasn't done them.
@Edamame: The composition of Dark Matter at this point is just theorized. We can't even prove the elements it's composed of exist. It's all hypothetical. However, it's still composed of particles. Particles, formed of matter and energy that can be manipulated.
I'm not a scientist however, nor am I planning on studying dark matter.
I'm talking about more versatility despite the fact that he purposely holds himself back.
" @Edamame: I don't think you and I are talking about the same encounter. When Blackbolt screams, electrons and energy are being exerted. When Gladiator punched him, kinetic energy was being exerted. When Havok overloaded Vulcan, well, there was a lot of energy being exerted their, and Vulcan couldn't work past those. "
This was in the Onslaught saga, which is 4 books all together. ???? Because Vulcan is an immature and inexperienced baby. LOL. Once Vulcan gets to Magneto's level, he will become a dangerous opponent, assuming that he is skilled at that point and is not immature or arrogant. "
He won't get to Magneto's level. Mainly because he's dead (though we all know how that goes). His power set just doesn't stack up. "
??? Being an energy manipulator/absorber is quite versatile. There is energy in everyone's brain. He can just suck it dry and shut their minds down. Most things in the Universe are energy based anyway. That makes him a threat. "
Everything in the universe is made of energy. Theoretically, he should have been performing Magneto's feats years ago. I mean, Magneto's powers are based on control of the EM Spectrum, but he's shown versatility far greater then anything I've ever seen from Vulcan. You''re assumptions as to what he could do are irrelevant when he hasn't done them. "
If I recall correctly, dark matter which makes up most of our galaxy to prevent it from dispersing is not made out of energy, but I will have to check on that. Yeah. Vulcan is just incredibly poorly written and I already said that what I expect of him is not equal to his canonical feats. Also, Magneto having control over the EM grants versatility because it is the force that binds all matter and well, That says a lot. "
Isn't "The Fallen One" composed of energy derived from dark matter?
@Lance Uppercut: Pretty sure dark matter/energy, as it is written in marvel is energy based and can be used offensively, as per Fallen One who is powered by dark energy and not the power cosmic.
Onslaught is strong enough to mind rape Galactus. Thanos was close to doing it and Onslaught >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanos when it comes to pure psionic rawness.
depends on how Hungry Galactus is. and at which point in Onslaughts career. Doesn't Onslaught have all the power of Xavier Magneto, X-Man and Franklin Richards? because Galactus fears conflict with Just Franklin Richards. So I don't see how someone who has all of FR's powers and then some would be nothing to him. there is no Logic behind that. In No way am I saying Onslaught beats the big G but he should atleast give a hungry Galactus a fight.
Galactus would still take down Onslaught at full power. Although not as easily as many people here may think. He may have been a planetary threat at the time but with all his unbelievable abilities including Reality Warping he's no joke. Galactus > Onslaught but it's by no means a cake walk.
Galactus would still take down Onslaught at full power. Although not as easily as many people here may think. He may have been a planetary threat at the time but with all his unbelievable abilities including Reality Warping he's no joke. Galactus > Onslaught but it's by no means a cake walk.
By full powered Onslaught I mean Onslaught with X-Man and Franklin Richards absorbed. Onslaught isn't simply Xavier, Magneto, Nate Grey and Franklin Richards combined(even if that is already absolutely ridiculous). Magneto's abilities can enhance a psychics abilities exponentially, just like he did with Xavier when he was dying to help him contact Lilandra. That being the case Magneto's abilities would also enhance Nate Grey's and Franklin Richards abilities VASTLY within Onslaught. Even though full powered Onslaught being THAT powerful Galactus is still greater and by a good amount.
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