onslaught vs dormammu

                                                                                                            vs

• onslaught has absorbed dr. doom into his being
• doramarru is at full power
• the battle is in earth real

Dormammu curbstomp. 

Onslaught would have a chance if he has Franklin Richards and X-man absorbed into him....

Dormammu.

" Dormammu curbstomp.  "

whats with the music and Dormammu wins IMO

" @KnightmareMegasTTGL said:

" Onslaught would have a chance if he has Franklin Richards and X-man absorbed into him.... "

Can reality warping/telepathy/telekinesis affect Dormammu? "

" @CosmicSpiral: I know, but that does not answer my question.  ; ) "

Dormammu. No contest.

just remember guys. dormammu is considered to be one of stranges arch foes. and since dr. strange was one of the many helping out to defeat onslaught wouldn't that suggest that onslaught is pretty powerful enough to bump heads with dormammu?

" just remember guys. dormammu is considered to be one of stranges arch foes. and since dr. strange was one of the many helping out to defeat onslaught wouldn't that suggest that onslaught is pretty powerful enough to bump heads with dormammu? "

Sometimes it does.

Im going with dormammu on this one

" @Edamame said: 

Sometimes it does.

Then it's not logic. A=A doesn't work "sometimes".  Onslaught doesn't have the juice to affect Dormammu.  "

I was alluding to relativity.  If Magneto can defeat the Hulk, then so can the Silver Surfer. "

so let me get this straight. to what effect can dormammu do to the phoenix force?   "

" @Lance Bastro: I doubt that Dormammu could affect the Phoenix Force, but I could be wrong. "

ABC logic works if you actually have the premises straight and take all factors into account. It would work well for something like "If Bizarro beats Superman, and Superman beats Wonder Woman, then Bizarro beats Wonder Woman," because Wonder Woman does not have any abilities or resources that we would expect to work any better on Bizarro than they would on Superman. It also works fairly well for Dragonball, because there most of the characters have basically the same abilities in basically the same proportions (i.e. everybody has superstrength, speed, toughness, flight, and energy projection; there are no "specialists" in the DBZ cast like, for example, Flash, who has only superspeed, or Hulk, who has super strength and toughness, but not speed, flight, energy, etc). It fails in cases where powers or circumstances are of very different types. Xavier > Magneto > Nimrod, for example.

The problem here with the Dr. Strange reference, is that the premises are not correct. It assumes Dormammu = Strange, which isn't true. It also assumes Strange, at the time of Onslaught, was equal to Strange at any other time, which is also not true. It also assumes significant personal intervention from Strange in fighting Onslaught, and while I can't rule it out completely (might have happened in his own comic during the crossover), I know he was not present anywhere in the big Onslaught finale where they finally beat him. 
 
All that said, Onslaught never demonstrated the kinds of phenomenal cosmic power that you would expect for someone with the full power of Franklin Richards and Nate Grey, so I have always suspected that he didn't actually succeed in his absorption attempts as much as he would have believed. He was defeated by a team who's high cards (by a good margin) were Thor and Hulk. And Thor seemed to be hanging back for a lot of it too (of course, there was also a lot of bad writing and plot contrivances going on, like Vision + Rogue being the only ones who could have staggered Onslaught, even though Thor + Mjolnir should be many times stronger and faster than both of them together). 
 
Personally I feel Onslaught would be beaten by almost any full fledged cosmic being or skyfather, and he'd probably even have a hard time defeating a competent Galactian herald. Dormammu would squash him.

Hard battle, but I give the edge to Dormammu, he can invoke the power of others !

" ABC logic works if you actually have the premises straight and take all factors into account. It would work well for something like "If Bizarro beats Superman, and Superman beats Wonder Woman, then Bizarro beats Wonder Woman," because Wonder Woman does not have any abilities or resources that we would expect to work any better on Bizarro than they would on Superman. It also works fairly well for Dragonball, because there most of the characters have basically the same abilities in basically the same proportions (i.e. everybody has superstrength, speed, toughness, flight, and energy projection; there are no "specialists" in the DBZ cast like, for example, Flash, who has only superspeed, or Hulk, who has super strength and toughness, but not speed, flight, energy, etc). It fails in cases where powers or circumstances are of very different types. Xavier > Magneto > Nimrod, for example.

The problem here with the Dr. Strange reference, is that the premises are not correct. It assumes Dormammu = Strange, which isn't true. It also assumes Strange, at the time of Onslaught, was equal to Strange at any other time, which is also not true. It also assumes significant personal intervention from Strange in fighting Onslaught, and while I can't rule it out completely (might have happened in his own comic during the crossover), I know he was not present anywhere in the big Onslaught finale where they finally beat him.  All that said, Onslaught never demonstrated the kinds of phenomenal cosmic power that you would expect for someone with the full power of Franklin Richards and Nate Grey, so I have always suspected that he didn't actually succeed in his absorption attempts as much as he would have believed. He was defeated by a team who's high cards (by a good margin) were Thor and Hulk. And Thor seemed to be hanging back for a lot of it too (of course, there was also a lot of bad writing and plot contrivances going on, like Vision + Rogue being the only ones who could have staggered Onslaught, even though Thor + Mjolnir should be many times stronger and faster than both of them together).  Personally I feel Onslaught would be beaten by almost any full fledged cosmic being or skyfather, and he'd probably even have a hard time defeating a competent Galactian herald. Dormammu would squash him. "

While in his dimension, Onslaught isnt beating Dormammu

DorMAMA!

Based upon feats Dormammu wins easily. But full powered Onslaught is not to be taken lightly. So I say Dormammu takes him out in the Dark Dimension but Onslaught has a chance if the battle is outside of there. Dormammu basically has the bigger chance of being the victor then. :/

Does O have Franklin Richards and X-man absorbed into him?

Dormammu kills Onslaught.

Hard battle but dormmamu

Dormammu

Not sure why absorbing Dr. Doom would have made a difference.

If he can weild Franklin's power, and that much is enough to take on Dormammu, Onslaught would win.

Sadly he never did, nor do i think giving him a leeway in battle forum is justified.

Dormammu FTW as far as i am concerned.

@killemall: Don't know about you, but I miss Lance's cheesing music on threads.........

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