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#1 Posted by N0tS0An0nym0us (907 posts) - - Show Bio

VS

Bloodlusted

No Prep Time

Standard Gear

Death counts as win

Location: Asgard

#2 Posted by NeonGameWave (9039 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin.

#3 Posted by Killemall (18607 posts) - - Show Bio

Apart from surrounding hyperboles, there really isnt much of a difference between Classic Odin and Current, apart from an ambigious boost he got during Thor: Everything Burns few months after Tom Breevroot wrote Odin is more powerful than Phoenix, so not sure whether its a temporarily boost, a blatant PIS because Fraction had too much weed to smoke, or a conscious decision to elivate his and surtur's power level.

Odin would win, he has more number of feats, and as long as they match firepower to firepower this could be a pretty close battle. Not sure if Shenron even has TP defense, i certainly dont recall seeing anything regarding that on Dragon Ball GT episodes but then perhaps its in the manga which i have not read.

#4 Posted by MorganFreeman (446 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin uses his magic to erase Dragon Ball GT from existence and destroys Omega Shenron in the process.

#5 Posted by TheMightyAvenger (1908 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall: I'm unaware of this boost, if you don't mind could you explain this to me?

Also Omega never appeared in the manga, he is a GT only character, and no he has no TP resistance.

#6 Posted by dondave (38893 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin ftw

#7 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheMightyAvenger said:

@Killemall: I'm unaware of this boost, if you don't mind could you explain this to me?

Also Omega never appeared in the manga, he is a GT only character, and no he has no TP resistance.

There wasn't any boost, Odin is just wrote in different way now.
 
@Killemall said:

Apart from surrounding hyperboles, there really isnt much of a difference between Classic Odin and Current, apart from an ambigious boost he got during Thor: Everything Burns few months after Tom Breevroot wrote Odin is more powerful than Phoenix, so not sure whether its a temporarily boost, a blatant PIS because Fraction had too much weed to smoke, or a conscious decision to elivate his and surtur's power level.

Odin would win, he has more number of feats, and as long as they match firepower to firepower this could be a pretty close battle. Not sure if Shenron even has TP defense, i certainly dont recall seeing anything regarding that on Dragon Ball GT episodes but then perhaps its in the manga which i have not read.


Considering that in other story, in JiM it was also mentioned that Bor/Buri created whole universe in which Asgard exists and that Odin was able to give Galactus a good fight - I would say that he is above his old feats.
#8 Posted by higher_evolutionary (2014 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

Apart from surrounding hyperboles, there really isnt much of a difference between Classic Odin and Current, apart from an ambigious boost he got during Thor: Everything Burns few months after Tom Breevroot wrote Odin is more powerful than Phoenix, so not sure whether its a temporarily boost, a blatant PIS because Fraction had too much weed to smoke, or a conscious decision to elivate his and surtur's power level.

Odin would win, he has more number of feats, and as long as they match firepower to firepower this could be a pretty close battle. Not sure if Shenron even has TP defense, i certainly dont recall seeing anything regarding that on Dragon Ball GT episodes but then perhaps its in the manga which i have not read.

Stronger than phoenix ?!

#9 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
@higher_evolutionary said:

@Killemall said:

Apart from surrounding hyperboles, there really isnt much of a difference between Classic Odin and Current, apart from an ambigious boost he got during Thor: Everything Burns few months after Tom Breevroot wrote Odin is more powerful than Phoenix, so not sure whether its a temporarily boost, a blatant PIS because Fraction had too much weed to smoke, or a conscious decision to elivate his and surtur's power level.

Odin would win, he has more number of feats, and as long as they match firepower to firepower this could be a pretty close battle. Not sure if Shenron even has TP defense, i certainly dont recall seeing anything regarding that on Dragon Ball GT episodes but then perhaps its in the manga which i have not read.

Stronger than phoenix ?!

Yes, he really said that. More - he said that Thanos never solod and will never solo Avengers. O_O
#10 Posted by spawn_123 (1693 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin

#11 Posted by Killemall (18607 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheMightyAvenger said:

@Killemall: I'm unaware of this boost, if you don't mind could you explain this to me?

Also Omega never appeared in the manga, he is a GT only character, and no he has no TP resistance.

Well its two ways to look at it, you got one explanation from Czarny, my take of it is a little different. The whole Thor: Everything Burns shows Surtur as a being capable of destroying entire universe, and will go so far to say if Surtur dies the spreading of his energy would do the destruction from him, kind if new given Surtur has died in the past without the universe ever been affected. Then we have after a short prep and help of a plot device Manchester Gods, Surtur became a threat to a multiverse.

After Surtur death, his energy gets released, the energy capable of destroying the entire universe and Odin shows up , as cool as a cucumber, and absorbs the whole energy with one hand no less. Certainly seems like those two are , at the least, universal powerhouse, which seemed like a boost. Let me know if you want scans, but i would highly recommend actually reading Everything burns, its only 6 issues, very recent series and has awesome artwork.

@czarny_samael666 said:

Considering that in other story, in JiM it was also mentioned that Bor/Buri created whole universe in which Asgard exists and that Odin was able to give Galactus a good fight - I would say that he is above his old feats.

Odin and Galactus has never actually never fought before but it was still cool to see. The rest cant argue to me he has grown more powerful and as far as Marvel Now is concerned as has Thor (Apart from him getting punched by Hulk in Avengers 01 and then the next time we see them both are knocked out, not sure what happened or why the fight wasnt shown gotta ask Hickman) who seem to be capable of controling lightning and stuffs even when he was weilding his axe , or reading the mind of people. Asgardia universe seem to be getting a boost, the way its going 5 more issues and Thor is going to be a lot bigger of a power house.

@higher_evolutionary said:

Stronger than phoenix ?!

Thats certainly what Breevroot said, and well he's as TOAA as it gets. I myself am finding it hard to believe, here is the conversation

make of this conversation as you will (these are not my crops, these were save by @CitizenBane: from formspring, so all thanks to him)

#12 Posted by Killemall (18607 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

Yes, he really said that. More - he said that Thanos never solod and will never solo Avengers. O_O

Actually after looking over his past, turns out on his own accord he hasnt. Which was new to me coz uptill yesterday i thought he had, turns out while he beat most of the Avengers / X men the biggest powerhouse Thor even in his first series was defeated by a massively powerful cannon that Thanos created using the power of a synthetic soul gem, something which was pointed to me by (@SpectroRaphael:)

Special thanks to him, while he should be powerful enough to solo the avengers, turns out he hasnt.

#13 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
@Killemall
But he did in Avengers: Celestial Quest, I am sure You've read it, since You used Rot's fight in few fights. He was able to stop Mjolnir and affect intangible Vision there. 
 

Odin and Galactus has never actually never fought before but it was still cool to see. The rest cant argue to me he has grown more powerful and as far as Marvel Now is concerned as has Thor (Apart from him getting punched by Hulk in Avengers 01 and then the next time we see them both are knocked out, not sure what happened or why the fight wasnt shown gotta ask Hickman) who seem to be capable of controling lightning and stuffs even when he was weilding his axe , or reading the mind of people. Asgardia universe seem to be getting a boost, the way its going 5 more issues and Thor is going to be a lot bigger of a power house.

 1.I know. Only Doom with Galan's power did it IIRC. But what matters here, is that we always thought that Galan will one-shot Odin.
2.Hickman ha to deal with Thor somehow and since it seems that it was mindless Hulk it isn't that bad. A specially considering that Hulk got another sucker punch while Thor was busy with something else (probably Ex Nihilo).
3.Thor always could use thunders without Mjolnir. Just look on his fight with Hulk in Hulk's annual, when Hulk is KOd - Thor is doing it with wave of his hand. 
4.Thor is currently making a lot of great feats, like killing Demogorge or taking Tanarus who was able to crack Terminus armor (Thor had problems with it in the past), his fight with Nul, Rulk or his appearances in mini series (tracking energy in Thor: Deviants Saga, tp-probe resistance against Emma, crushing her body, opening portal to other parts of universe against Phoenix, hurting PF, affecting Alter Ego's mind in Astonishing Thor, creating energy-shield in Thor Annual...). Now, he is going to defeat Gorr that killed god that was able to toy with Black Holes and we have his (from young version) words that Mjolnir can easily destroy planets. Hickman likes him and Aaron is making great stuff. And both seems to give Thor new feats, as well as Fraction did, but in better way.
#14 Posted by TheMightyAvenger (1908 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall: Thanks a lot, I will read it when it comes out in my country, sadly things are quite slow here.

#15 Posted by JackKnight (2969 posts) - - Show Bio

Omega Shenron Comes to Asgard to course havoc

Odin comes and does this:

BTW arn't Comics vs Anime thread band from Comic vine now?

#16 Edited by itheone (55 posts) - - Show Bio

Omega Shenron could consume the entire universe, when has Odin shown that kind of power ?

#17 Edited by PabloSL (643 posts) - - Show Bio
@morganfreeman said:

Odin uses his magic to erase Dragon Ball GT from existence and destroys Omega Shenron in the process.

Man that would be so cool

@itheone said:

Omega Shenron could consume the entire universe, when has Odin shown that kind of power ?

He has no feats to prove it

Also, Odin stronger than Phoenix?? WTF?

#18 Posted by kyrees (6209 posts) - - Show Bio
#19 Posted by colliderz (2836 posts) - - Show Bio

@itheone: DBZ vs other franchises are banned in CV

#20 Edited by those_eyes (8058 posts) - - Show Bio

banny

#21 Edited by Kingant27 (7684 posts) - - Show Bio

Pure raw power, probably goes to Omega Shenron, however Odin wins here; TP, time manipulation etc.

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