Old Man Logan VS Miles Morales

Old Man Logan

Miles Morales

Rules

• In character
• No prep
• Win by any means
• Standard gear

Location

• Car are stationary
• Location is unpopulated
• Begin 30 feet apart
• Fight takes place here:

Who wins and why?

In character Logan

@jashro44: Fears for old man Logan

Those elbow pads look like serious business. I'll have to side with OML for that alone.

Sigh, and the Miles underrating will continue. Poor Miles.

Thats an unfair advantage, Logan look to badass to losed. Also it's miles moral, he not winning.

Logan.

All he has to do is suck less.

I always get happy and sad at the same time when I see Michael Turner art.

Anyways, probably Logan.

I will get you some scans tomorrow maybe. Just remind me. I'm tired now though.

I saw Miles Morales on the cover of Old Man Logans ongoing (he's back btw, he has had a new mini/ongoing in secret wars and will be getting an ongoing after secret wars). I am thinking that there might be some interactions between them, and I am already kind of interested. Wolverine and spider-man has always been one of my favourite team ups and I think an older version of Logan interacting with an even younger spider-man might be cool. Than again it was just a comic cover so maybe it wont happen. Either way whether we see them interact or not I figured this could be a good fight since both will be getting more showings soon and an ongoing in the 616 universe due to secret wars.

It seems both Miles and Old Man Logan are coming to the 616 universe after secret wars. That and to be fair old man logan did show some great blunt trauma durability and did slaughter the hulk family pretty much. So he is pretty tough in his own right to be fair.

@jashro44: Here is the prblem. He is wolverine. He is stillt he same Wolverine, and no one on this thinks highly of Miles. Its that simple. You have people arguing Damien Wayne beating Miles, or Night Wing, or even Bane. Its sad.

Oh no. Please no. Please just keep those shitty characters in their shitty universes. Why do they want to ruin 616 ?

I'm going to side with Miles, only because I haven't seen much from OML

I don't think Damian could beat Miles. Bane would lose a majority due to his fighting style focusing more on strength than avoidance. Nightwing is debatable IMO. I don't consider old man logan to be the same as 616 wolverine though. All though we will see how he stacks up to the 616 universe soon I guess. I've always viewed old man logan as less skillful due to all the time he spent away from fighting and as a pacifist but maybe thats changed in his ongoing; all though he is also from a less established universe than the 616 universe so theres that as well. His healing factor is also weaker to bullets.

I don't think Old Man Logan can win. Miles has too many abilities. As far as I remember Old Man Logan hasn't been shown to be as skilled or as fast as Earth-616 Logan. He's probably more ruthless than his Earth-616 counterpart but I think Miles has too many advantages. Range, stealth, agility, strength & speed are all in his favor.

Its funny that most of the MCu is base on 1610, but Ultimate comics that broke sales for Marvel over 616 in 2000s are crappy. Yup.

@sirfizzwhizz: Not sure if I agree about old man logan wiping the floor with nightwing. Yea he has the healing factor but as I said he is from a less established universe than nightwing and he spent a long time as a pacifist so I don't think he is as skilled as nightwing. That and Old man logans stabbing resistance isn't to great since he was dropped by bullets IIRC. So nightwing could possibly cut him up maybe, or tie him up with greater skill and agility.

Old Man Logan was badass but he is far off from his 616 counterpart feat wise IMO. Of course I haven't read his series in secret wars yet so maybe he's done something there.

@jashro44: He was dropped by bullets?

Probably Miles, but im rooting for Logan, loved that arc.

Yea it was in part 6. He would also bleed when he popped his claws IIRC:

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All though as I said his blunt force feats were better. He tanked some big hits from Banner and survived being eaten by Banner for 12 hours for example:

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I thought you read Old Man Logan :p

@jashro44: how could he be eaten if he had a adamantium skeleton?

I don't know. I guess hulk swallowed him hole?

Be hard with that size, and claws. huh. weird

LOGAN

Miles wins.

Wolverine can be ripped to pieces.

@makhai: From what I have seen 616 wolverine can't be ripped apart. I remember during hulk/wolverine six hours hulk tried and failed. I also remember ba'al trying it and failing as well. It seems to take a lot of strength at least.

Unfortunately, writers tend to go out of their way to learn on what they are writing about very infrequently. Unless we are going to assume my theory from a few years ago is true (adamantium ligaments), it would be impossible for adamantium bones to equal limbs that could not be separated. So there are a few options that we can assume are true. Wolverine has adamantium ligaments, Wolverine's strength is greater than currently estimated, or neither and they are just plot holes.

I tend to agree with the adamantium ligaments thing. I am guessing the adamantium there is more malleable. All though I guess one can argue this doesn't apply to Old Man Logan since that is an else world. So maybe he was ripped apart.

Seems like every single alternate universe Wolverine is capable of being ripped apart.

Just wanna say, Old Man Logan stomps.

(Yeah, this thread is old and dead. But I just wanna throw my two cents out there...)

I mean, this Respect Thread says it all.

https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/YPzfGE

OML is awesome but Miles in a close fight

@sirfizzwhizz: Honestly, and believe me I hate Miles so badly, but this is getting ridiculous. I mean how is Miles getting stomped in here?

Bias and hate. it is what it is.

I don't like Miles either, but this is just...

What?

Yeah, but come on. This is extremely wrong.

@g2_: I mean while I don't like Miles, I still know he is very strong street level character and I just can't believe how much people are lowballing him.

True, they are very slow learners. But that's, of course, to be expected of fanboys.

This is pathetic, Miles stomps him.

Miles Morales...I'm going against the culture this time!

I guess the Miles fanboys are still reeling from that Old Man Logan #20 fight, as if they are somehow trying to make the claim this is a mismatch or Miles stomps.

Like ok boo boo you ignore on panel evidence because you feel your character is being unfairly judged, that makes it ok.

Miles stomps.

Wolverine realizes he's fighting a kid and stops before there's a clear victor, then they team up against whichever villain they're actually fighting in the story.

@jashro44: yeah miles stealth mode is pretty much useless against an opponent who can has fantastic smelling senses.

@superdragonfly9:

And don't forget his ears. He can hear somebody whispering a heavily crowded bar.