Thanos. Probably a close tough battle but modern Thor doesn't know or use the Odin force like Odin. He holds back and hell, didn't even know how to fix mjolnir after bor broke it. Having all the knowledge that the Odin force brings, Thor shouldn't have needed Strange's help to repair mjolnir. Probably just bad writing but still. Odin would've repaired it easily.
Regular Odin turned Thanos into his punching bag. Thor with the Odin Force fought on par with Surtur in Thor #400.
You are arguing two rather different versions of Odin Force Thor, their powers have not been consistent given the different amount of Odin Force wielded during different point in time.
Drawing as an example, King Thor whose sole power boost was Odin force as well defeated Destroyer Armor and blew a hole in it. The Odin Force Thor however outright admitted he couldn’t defeat the Destroyer armor and attempted to summon Asgardian army in order to defeat it.
This version is different from one that appeared in Thor # 400 and has lot less impressive feats and a lot more limitations on his power.
OF Thor isn't Odin nor is he as powerful as Odin due to lacking the runes. Fighting Surtur isn't really a feat given how inconsistent he is.
Surtur has not been inconsistent Thor with the power of Odin Force however is a different story altogether. Trying to inject a feat from Thor # 400 in order to justify the power level of Thor from Thor # 600 however may not be a reasonable thing to do as their power level are vastly different.
Thor # 400 tried its level best to over glorify Thor and his powers given it was his landmark issue.
OF Thor isn't Odin nor is he as powerful as Odin due to lacking the runes. Fighting Surtur isn't really a feat given how inconsistent he is.
Surtur has not been inconsistent Thor with the power of Odin Force however is a different story altogether. Trying to inject a feat from Thor # 400 in order to justify the power level of Thor from Thor # 600 however may not be a reasonable thing to do as their power level are vastly different.
Thor # 400 tried its level best to over glorify Thor and his powers given it was his landmark issue.
Surturs inconsistent. He's been bested by Odin despite Ymir helping him and was beaten by Thor with nothing but the shadow of the Odinsword(also with Ymirs help), and King Thor stomped him at one point. Then we have other instances like him being superior to Odin and killing him, or stalemating him in the afterlife and leaving Odin wondering if he could beat him even with help from Thor(they end up winning handily but still...). There are very different pictures to be painted about his power level.
Regular Odin turned Thanos into his punching bag. Thor with the Odin Force fought on par with Surtur in Thor #400.
OF Thor isn't Odin nor is he as powerful as Odin due to lacking the runes. Fighting Surtur isn't really a feat given how inconsistent he is.
Well, Old King Thor is when Thor truly reached Odin's level, or even surpassed depending on how you interpret it. OF Thor is less experienced essentially.
And fighting Surtur is impressive, he's a multi-Galaxy level. Regardless, I think OF Thor beats Thanos handily.
@highaccuser: @claymore1998: The more modern incarnations of Odin/Odin Force are less powerful, which is a reasonable explanation.
How so? Odins power isn't entirely derived from the OF, he also has the runes and such. Old King Thor doesn't appear to be much weaker than classic Odin and I haven't really seen how classic Odin is any more different from modern Odin.
@highaccuser: @claymore1998: The more modern incarnations of Odin/Odin Force are less powerful, which is a reasonable explanation.
Not true man.
Heck recently during The Tenth Realm tie in of the ongoing Orginal Sins we are told, an angry Odin ripped out an entire realm attached to the World Tree and banished it outside of conventional universe because he's a badass.
Odin is still scary powerful, as always been. Its just different writers see him at different power level. Matt Fraction more or less saw him as a theological representation of God, with Odin during Fear Itself showing Iron Man what gods actually see.
Odin is a glorified plot device put it however you want :)
@highaccuser: @claymore1998: The more modern incarnations of Odin/Odin Force are less powerful, which is a reasonable explanation.
Not true man.
Heck recently during The Tenth Realm tie in of the ongoing Orginal Sins we are told, an angry Odin ripped out an entire realm attached to the World Tree and banished it outside of conventional universe because he's a badass.
Odin is still scary powerful, as always been. Its just different writers see him at different power level. Matt Fraction more or less saw him as a theological representation of God, with Odin during Fear Itself showing Iron Man what gods actually see.
Odin is a glorified plot device put it however you want :)
+ manipulating Surtur's energy that would destroy the universe.
Besides, it doesn't matter how it is shown now, because all its/his feats counts.
OF Thor isn't Odin nor is he as powerful as Odin due to lacking the runes. Fighting Surtur isn't really a feat given how inconsistent he is.
Surtur has not been inconsistent Thor with the power of Odin Force however is a different story altogether. Trying to inject a feat from Thor # 400 in order to justify the power level of Thor from Thor # 600 however may not be a reasonable thing to do as their power level are vastly different.
Thor # 400 tried its level best to over glorify Thor and his powers given it was his landmark issue.
Surturs inconsistent. He's been bested by Odin despite Ymir helping him and was beaten by Thor with nothing but the shadow of the Odinsword(also with Ymirs help), and King Thor stomped him at one point. Then we have other instances like him being superior to Odin and killing him, or stalemating him in the afterlife and leaving Odin wondering if he could beat him even with help from Thor(they end up winning handily but still...). There are very different pictures to be painted about his power level.
He isn't, just Surtur can bust galaxy to create his sword and with TS he is above Odin. Without it, he is slightly below.
@czarny_samael666: To be fair we are actually told Thor had to hang himself still death and not only near death in order to obtain the powers of Runes because Odin had already done so.
After all there really isn't much of a difference between the power source of Odin or Rune King Thor, its just that having sacrified more he gained the same power to a higher degree.
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