Odin vs Superman Prime

man as much as i love Odin and he is the strongest God marvel has presented after RKT but Prime is a beast call it PIS or what the guy still owned the DCU and thats a feat in and of itself. I go for him the may even shatter the universe since own can punch through reality and the other can destroy it at will

Odin, because outside hype and PIS like having Mxy nabbed and too drunk to even use his power, he's all fluff.

Odin on the other hand is a guy that warps reality, manipulates time, etc, you know come off as a real God.

Odin waves his hand stopping time, removes all of Prime's memories, turns him human and sends him to Earth to never bother the forums or comic industry again.

Odin is too saavy and battle tested for a head case that can get scared in the dark.  Odin smashes.

Why is this even being debated?

Odin.

Superman Prime

Prime

 

Odin, because outside hype and PIS like having Mxy nabbed and too drunk to even use his power, he's all fluff.

Odin on the other hand is a guy that warps reality, manipulates time, etc, you know come off as a real God.

 

           

 

Odin waves his hand stopping time, removes all of Prime's memories, turns him human and sends him to Earth to never bother the forums or comic industry again.

@isaac_clarke said:

 

Odin, because outside hype and PIS like having Mxy nabbed and too drunk to even use his power, he's all fluff.

Odin on the other hand is a guy that warps reality, manipulates time, etc, you know come off as a

 

Odin waves his hand stopping time, removes all of Prime's memories, turns him human and sends him to Earth to never bother the forums or comic industry again.

 owned a 5d Imp who would turn Odin into a pile of shit. Prime stomps stupid beard.

Did you guys remember how Prime fare against Mordru?

Odin stomps superman and most characters of dc are horribly written and way overpowered and even so he gets smashed 

prime stomps

                    @isaac_clarke said:

 

Odin, because outside hype and PIS like having Mxy nabbed and too drunk to even use his power, he's all fluff.

Odin on the other hand is a guy that warps reality, manipulates time, etc, you know come off as a real God.

 

           

 

Odin waves his hand stopping time, removes all of Prime's memories, turns him human and sends him to Earth to never bother the forums or comic industry again.

Too bad Odin can't hurt a guy who is immune to magic and survived the destruction of the universe and owned a 5d Imp who would turn Odin into a pile of shit. Prime stomps stupid beard.

                   

               

Odin wins.

               

Tell me how Prime is going to hurt Odin. Has Prime ever fought against magic on the level of Odin? Also, Mxy thing was bad writing. Mxy would STOMP Prime.

@Susanoo said:

               

Tell me how Prime is going to hurt Odin. Has Prime ever fought against magic on the level of Odin? Also, Mxy thing was bad writing. Mxy would STOMP Prime.

I thinks Mordru is.

@war of light_2814 said:

@Susanoo said:

               

Tell me how Prime is going to hurt Odin. Has Prime ever fought against magic on the level of Odin? Also, Mxy thing was bad writing. Mxy would STOMP Prime.

I thinks Mordru is.

The problem with Mordu as a measuring stick, all he did was fire a bunch of pink pellets at Prime, not a magic galaxy busting attack or punches that can be felt across all planes of reality. Just a really lame pellet attack.
@TheUltimateSurvivor: Except he isn't immune, muchless has he ever fought a being on Odin's level of power, ever. At least not without raging PIS.

Odin stomps superman and most characters of dc are horribly written and way overpowered and even so he gets smashed 

@lord_galactus said:

Odin stomps superman and most characters of dc are horribly written and way overpowered and even so he gets smashed 

Most DC characters are not overpowered nor are they horribly written. I can say that most of Marvel's comics are horribly written because all they care about nowadays is making lots of money.

@lord_galactus said:

Odin stomps superman and most characters of dc are horribly written and way overpowered and even so he gets smashed 

Most DC characters are not overpowered nor are they horribly written. I can say that most of Marvel's comics are horribly written because all they care about nowadays is making lots of money.

@war of light_2814 said:

@Susanoo said:

               

Tell me how Prime is going to hurt Odin. Has Prime ever fought against magic on the level of Odin? Also, Mxy thing was bad writing. Mxy would STOMP Prime.

I thinks Mordru is.

The problem with Mordu as a measuring stick, all he did was fire a bunch of pink pellets at Prime, not a magic galaxy busting attack or punches that can be felt across all planes of reality. Just a really lame pellet attack.
@TheUltimateSurvivor: Except he isn't immune, muchless has he ever fought a being on Odin's level of power, ever. At least not without raging PIS.

@Cosmic_Falcon

@isaac_clarke said:

@war of light_2814 said:

@Susanoo said:

               

Tell me how Prime is going to hurt Odin. Has Prime ever fought against magic on the level of Odin? Also, Mxy thing was bad writing. Mxy would STOMP Prime.

I thinks Mordru is.

The problem with Mordu as a measuring stick, all he did was fire a bunch of pink pellets at Prime, not a magic galaxy busting attack or punches that can be felt across all planes of reality. Just a really lame pellet attack.
@TheUltimateSurvivor: Except he isn't immune, muchless has he ever fought a being on Odin's level of power, ever. At least not without raging PIS.

I think the idea is that if Odin attacks directly with magic, then he'll have little hope of hurting Prime directly.  He'd have to use magic in different ways like reality warping to beat Prime. 

@Cosmic_Falcon said:

"I think the idea is that if Odin attacks directly with magic, then he'll have little hope of hurting Prime directly.  He'd have to use magic in different ways like reality warping to beat Prime." 

That could potentially be true, but the problem is I still haven't seen any note worthy magical based attack on him.

Sure he's tanked BA's attack and shrugged them off because apparently the force behind his fists is magic based(news to me) and Mordu's quick pellet attack out of Prime's arrogance, but thats about it.

Theres nothing there that would make me think that, lets say either Classic Fate or Strange, decided they had to put Prime down they wouldn't be able to. Muchlike if I looked towards high powered mystic entities like the Vishanti or Shuma Gorath would find themselves powerless to simply blast Prime away. Muchlike some older showings of Odin where he's hacking reality tremble in his fist fights would just as likely put Prime down without a problem.

The only reason threads like this exist are people somewhat guessing to how powerful the random magic resistance Prime possess, as far as I know he doesn't have the showings to say skyfathers will become ragdolls to him due to said anti magic defense he has.

@war of light_2814 said:

"In the very same storyline mordru absorb all magic from universe247(or at least he was claimed to) and he seem to pissed off when he attack prime."

I'd imagine someone capable of the feat (unless Universe has some pretty weaksauce magic users) could have atleast fired something a little more impressive than what he hit Prime with. This is how I see it as most energy themed attacks, if that attack were to miss Prime and hit the ground, what kind of damage would it have done? I would imagine it would be lucky to bust a side walk, when it hit prime reality wasn't crumbling, they were not blinded by flashing lights or saw a massive explosion as a result and I would have heavy doubts of those attacks being meant as a super piercing magical attacks that have any worthwhile power outside them.

@MrDirector786 said:

"Most DC characters are not overpowered nor are they horribly written. I can say that most of Marvel's comics are horribly written because all they care about nowadays is making lots of money."

How does writing terrible comics equate to making lots of $$?

Seems like a somewhat contradicting strategy of cashing in on their readers. =P

Odin ftw

 

@war of light_2814 said:

"In the very same storyline mordru absorb all magic from universe247(or at least he was claimed to) and he seem to pissed off when he attack prime."

I'd imagine someone capable of the feat (unless Universe has some pretty weaksauce magic users) could have atleast fired something a little more impressive than what he hit Prime with. This is how I see it as most energy themed attacks, if that attack were to miss Prime and hit the ground, what kind of damage would it have done? I would imagine it would be lucky to bust a side walk, when it hit prime reality wasn't crumbling, they were not blinded by flashing lights or saw a massive explosion as a result and I would have heavy doubts of those attacks being meant as a super piercing magical attacks that have any worthwhile power outside them.

If Galactus attacked Spiderman, he would get knocked into the walls. Just like when Superman 1 Million said his eye beams are hotter than stars, all it does is knock some guy unconscious into a building. Consider that saved by the PG13 rating.

" There's problem then:the writer doesn't always give the hype how powerful the attacks are you can see it with other characters as well . the Characters  might be universe buster but If the just didn't care to hype it ther'll be no describtion imagine what if Galactus attack spiderman There may be no describetion about it but Spidy would turned in to nothingness  anyway doesn't it?Galactus also fire simple energy blasts multiple times-there's no describtion how powerful it is but it still can hurt other powerful beings.I am under the impression that if he can resist to Magic of someone that powerful(and didn't seem to holding back)it means that he has a very high resistance of magic.

Theres the thing, outside who is firing the attack and who is tanking it, there is no implication of power behind it. Mordu didn't spend time charging up mystical energies, he didn't start glowing with raw power or anything like that, I mean honestly writers for years have been able to at the very least imply power through other means like the ones I mentioned. Like Glory vs Thor, where Glory fires everything he has at sending him through time and space, while Thor responds with Mjolnir, absorb the attack and fire it back powerful enough to tear through reality as he is be. That seems like it would be a pretty intense back and forth between characters of energy projection.

There are at least two times in recent years that imply the blasting power Galactus can dish out.

When he sent out a beam that hit Bill that melted the side of a planet without tagging it.

Another directed at Zeus in chaos war that no mere skyfather should have shrugged off, implying the kind of power to one shot them.

Mordu was like GRR and Prime was like Hah! Nothing really to make me turn my head to think it has any real power behind it, you catch my drift. The writer put no effort into it just as they did with Prime tanking Adam's hits, which Superman has tanked and hasn't had his skull caved in because it's magic. =P

@war of light_2814 said:

" There's problem then:the writer doesn't always give the hype how powerful the attacks are you can see it with other characters as well . the Characters  might be universe buster but If the just didn't care to hype it ther'll be no describtion imagine what if Galactus attack spiderman There may be no describetion about it but Spidy would turned in to nothingness  anyway doesn't it?Galactus also fire simple energy blasts multiple times-there's no describtion how powerful it is but it still can hurt other powerful beings.I am under the impression that if he can resist to Magic of someone that powerful(and didn't seem to holding back)it means that he has a very high resistance of magic.

Theres the thing, outside who is firing the attack and who is tanking it, there is no implication of power behind it. Mordu didn't spend time charging up mystical energies, he didn't start glowing with raw power or anything like that, I mean honestly writers for years have been able to at the very least imply power through other means like the ones I mentioned. Like Glory vs Thor, where Glory fires everything he has at sending him through time and space, while Thor responds with Mjolnir, absorb the attack and fire it back powerful enough to tear through reality as he is be. That seems like it would be a pretty intense back and forth between characters of energy projection.

There are at least two times in recent years that imply the blasting power Galactus can dish out.

When he sent out a beam that hit Bill that melted the side of a planet without tagging it.

Another directed at Zeus in chaos war that no mere skyfather should have shrugged off, implying the kind of power to one shot them.

Mordu was like GRR and Prime was like Hah! Nothing really to make me turn my head to think it has any real power behind it, you catch my drift. The writer put no effort into it just as they did with Prime tanking Adam's hits, which Superman has tanked and hasn't had his skull caved in because it's magic. =P

 

@war of light_2814:  Prime has reality breaking attacks. He has punched out of the phantom zone. Theres not much he cant do by attacking. Superman Prime owned on Mxy. Defeated a entire JLA with ease. Stomped on a Monitor who is skyfather level like it was nothing. Then was beating down on Monarch to a draw until Prime ripped off his armor.....Prime even surpised Monarch after he gave him a taste of whats inside his armor. But monarchs armor contained enough energy to destroy a entire universe. Prime laughed at mordru who is one of the most powerful magical beings in the future. Mordru who rivaled with Shaazam. Odin is magical so most of his attacks will have no effect on Prime and Prime will over power Odin. So Prime should win this.

@war of light_2814:  Prime has reality breaking attacks.

@war of light_2814:  Prime has reality breaking attacks. He has punched out of the phantom zone. Theres not much he cant do by attacking. Superman Prime owned on Mxy. 

Defeated a entire JLA with ease.

Stomped on a Monitor who is skyfather level like it was nothing. Then was beating down on Monarch to a draw until Prime ripped off his armor.....Prime even surpised Monarch after he gave him a taste of whats inside his armor. But monarchs armor contained enough energy to destroy a entire universe. Prime laughed at mordru who is one of the most powerful magical beings in the future. Mordru who rivaled with Shaazam. Odin is magical so most of his attacks will have no effect on Prime and Prime will over power Odin. So Prime should win this.

Then was beating down on Monarch to a draw until Prime ripped off his armor.....Prime even surpised Monarch after he gave him a taste of whats inside his armor. But monarchs armor contained enough energy to destroy a entire universe. Prime laughed at mordru who is one of the most powerful magical beings in the future. Mordru who rivaled with Shaazam. Odin is magical so most of his attacks will have no effect on Prime and Prime will over power Odin. So Prime should win this.

Prime laughed at mordru who is one of the most powerful magical beings in the future. Mordru who rivaled with Shaazam. Odin is magical so most of his attacks will have no effect on Prime and Prime will over power Odin. So Prime should win this.

@war of light_2814:  Prime has reality breaking attacks.

That's hardly a feat.

DC power catagory goes like this......Skyfather level and down > Universal threat level characters > Reality breaking characters > multiverse level threat characters > nigh-omnipotent characters> Then the only true omnipotent character which is the prescence level.  Its pretty impressive to smash thru realities at will.
@supermandefender said:

@war of light_2814:  Prime has reality breaking attacks. He has punched out of the phantom zone. Theres not much he cant do by attacking. Superman Prime owned on Mxy. 

Mxy didn't even try to fight him I've also heard that he was depowered .

Mxy got snatched by Prime before he was prevented from leaving. And he wasnt depowered....she was just preventing Mxy from using his powers to escape. Prime was literally smacking mxy around. Mxy only got away because she lifted her magic preventing him from leaving off of him and she gave up her life to do so....the only reason why Prime didnt look for away to kill Mxy was because he needed Mxy to find a way for him to keep the green lantern energy from leaving his body. It over powered him. He was literally 2 powerful here.

Defeated a entire JLA with ease.

Not enough .

Not enough for what? To be worthy enough to beat Odin? Yes it is....Odin couldnt defeat the top JLA memebers as easy as Prime did in count down.
@supermandefender said:

Then was beating down on Monarch to a draw until Prime ripped off his armor.....Prime even surpised Monarch after he gave him a taste of whats inside his armor. But monarchs armor contained enough energy to destroy a entire universe. Prime laughed at mordru who is one of the most powerful magical beings in the future. Mordru who rivaled with Shaazam. Odin is magical so most of his attacks will have no effect on Prime and Prime will over power Odin. So Prime should win this.

Prime didn't beating down monarch.monarch actually toying with him.he mock with prime for an entire fight and prime didn't win they both survive so it's essentially stalmate the explosion that was cause by monarch didn't bust universe the reality itself still exist as well as most of things in it the explosion just wiped all life in earth 51.

I didnt say Prime won over Monarch I said that he was beating down on him...and he was. Prime was on the offensive and Monarch got a few blast keeping Prime at a distance. Monarch was making fun of him but it was not because he was stronger than Prime. And Monarch after that fight was no more....Captain Atom reappeared like he always does after he dies....so it leaves me to believe Monarch died. I mean his chest armor was ripped off. Prime survived and the lantern energy naturally left his body.
@supermandefender said:

Prime laughed at mordru who is one of the most powerful magical beings in the future. Mordru who rivaled with Shaazam. Odin is magical so most of his attacks will have no effect on Prime and Prime will over power Odin. So Prime should win this.

That's exactly what I'm debating and as far as I'm concern Mordru>Shazam.His rival is Nabu    

I know Mordru has fought with shaazam a couple of times and Shazaam as won the battles ive read. I know in the end it was Eclipso that sealed Shazaams doom tho...forcing Shazaam to called forth the Spectre for help to defeat Superman posessed by Eclipso....i know it really came down to 2 options for him.....either kill Superman or call forth the Spectre to drive Eclipso out of the Spectre. This was directly before Days of Vengences.

@war of light_2814: 

@war of light_2814:  Prime has reality breaking attacks.

That's hardly a feat.

 

DC power catagory goes like this......Skyfather level and down > Universal threat level characters > Reality breaking characters > multiverse level threat characters > nigh-omnipotent characters> Then the only true omnipotent character which is the prescence level.  Its pretty impressive to smash thru realities at will.

Defeated a entire JLA with ease.

Not enough .

 

Not enough for what? To be worthy enough to beat Odin? Yes it is....Odin couldnt defeat the top JLA memebers as easy as Prime did in count down.

DC power catagory goes like this......Skyfather level and down > Universal threat level characters > Reality breaking characters > multiverse level threat characters > nigh-omnipotent characters> Then the only true omnipotent character which is the prescence level.  Its pretty impressive to smash thru realities at will. 

Not enough for what? To be worthy enough to beat Odin? Yes it is....Odin couldnt defeat the top JLA memebers as easy as Prime did in count down. 

didnt say Prime won over Monarch I said that he was beating down on him...and he was. Prime was on the offensive and Monarch got a few blast keeping Prime at a distance. Monarch was making fun of him but it was not because he was stronger than Prime. And Monarch after that fight was no more....Captain Atom reappeared like he always does after he dies....so it leaves me to believe Monarch died. I mean his chest armor was ripped off. Prime survived and the lantern energy naturally left his body. 

I know Mordru has fought with shaazam a couple of times and Shazaam as won the battles ive read. I know in the end it was Eclipso that sealed Shazaams doom tho...forcing Shazaam to called forth the Spectre for help to defeat Superman posessed by Eclipso....i know it really came down to 2 options for him.....either kill Superman or call forth the Spectre to drive Eclipso out of the Spectre. This was directly before Days of Vengences. 

@isaac_clarke said:

@war of light_2814: Don't bother with defender he usually leaves if no one responds to him. The name itself and his attitude to believe Superman needs defending on Vine speaks for itself.

I do find it hilarious to hear how Odin was fighting Thanos to a stand still when Thanos was struggling to get up after Odin's assaults, all while Odin didn't have much clear intention of actually putting Thanos down. Great feat for Thanos, but not as Defender is pretending it is.
Another tidbit to add, Eternity himself is nigh omnipotent and the Spectre at "full power" would still lose to LT. Considering the Spectre is more recently depicted as having his hands full with the Rage Entity or Parallax Eternity stands a solid chance of putting up quite a fight against him himself.

As for our little discussion just to add this in, the Galactus Event was more than 3 star systems, since after the Annihilation ship reports how it's annihilating their forces for "3 star systems and does not slow!" and Thanos Imperative implies Galactus swept the galaxy clean.

Odin still wins IMO due to being tremendously more powerful than Prime.

@czarny_samael:
 
Prove? Breaking reality is - doesn't matter in which Megaverse - opening a portal. It is not a clear strength feat.
Opening a portal your right is not a big feat. Like Surfer opening hyperspace is not a feat. But Flash running into speed force is a big feat! Dr. Strange opening a portal from 1 realm to another is not a huge feat....but Prime who has no power set to do such a thing just punches and tears a whole in reality and passes into another universe is a big feat.
If I must prove again I will...but im sure you have seen the scan of Superboy Prime punching out of the phantom zone also Superman Prime punched a whole into the 5th dimension where he grapped mxy. On top of that Boy Prime punched a whole out of Speed force. All scans we have all see. He is punching out of one reality to another.

 Odin would one-shot whole JLA... With snap of his fingers.

I won't answer longer, because it clearly proves You know nothing, absolutely nothing about Odin.

I think your under estimating the JLA alittle bit. Most of these guys dance with guys and fight skyfather levels. Odin may have the potential to do something but having the potential once is not the samething as having it as a reg. feat....I think your confusing the 2. Can Odin defeat the JLA sure....can he defeat them easily sure......but it all depends on Odin. Lack of sleep, ect ect reasons. Odin has lost tons of battles and has even been fought to a stand still by Thanos. The facts are Odin is not much higher than Superboy Prime thats if he is higher. Odin is somehwere between universal threat character and a reality breaking threat character. He doesnt compare up to characters on a Spectre level. He is not at Galactus level. In fact in the infinite Gauntlet they flat out place each character in order according to there powerlevels.

Characters such as Eternity dont even rival against nigh-omnipotence level characters like Living tribunal. And I dont want to hear you compare Odin to those levels or compare odin to a multiversal level character ...because thats like comparing Odin to Eternity. Eternity is a multiversal level threat character. And he is not nigh omnipotent.
Spectre at full power can draw the Living Tribunal and Spectre will beat Eternity. 

@czarny_samael: I some what agree with your part 2 statement. I think Odin while has the ability to one shot Surfer....he isnt always capable of one shoting Surfer and thats the point i was trying to make. Besides that i agree with your number 2 statement with Galactus and Odin being capable of one shotting characters on a Superman par level. Reality breaking feat i think can be measureable by how it was done.