The only problem with that you stated is that Eru couldn't not beat melkor. In order to be Omnipotent a being needs to do what is impossible, no matter the circumstances or situation. If Eru is omnipotent, yep he could easily creates melkor with enough power to go agaisn't him, but he could also beat him no matter how powerful Melkor is. That's the definition of Omnipotence; Do the impossible. No paradox can explain it.
It's not like eru couldn't kill him. It's more like eru created him and gave him the power to defy him, so that they could start an epic journey for middle earth. Morgoth and eru never met in flat out combat. Eru would have decimated him if they had.
Morgoth's claim to power lies in that he actually was strong enough to corrupt an omnipotent's world in creation, creating and embodying the very concept of corruption, he knew a good amount of his thoughts (he even knew the themes for ainur iirc), he created his own themes, became capable of having sentient thoughts of his own, and made twisted creations of his own, as well as claimed arda. What he lacked was flame imperishable. (The flame of imperishable, was something only eru possesed. In order for the creatures to gain approval, eru blew it in them. This is what morgoth was looking for. If you ever wondered what gandalf said to the durin's bane/balrog on the bridge, this is what he meant by 'I'm the servant of secret fire'.)
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If Melkor can REALLY go against him, in mean that it matters anything for us, not like fly vs sun, or something similar, it would mean that he had any chance, so Eru couldn't be omnipotent. And according to Frocharocha Eru couldn't kill Melkor.
Tbh melkor's fight against eru will be about the same as toaa's fight against LT. Like a fly in the sun.
The thing is, melkor can be interpreted as LT gone bad. He's strong, absolutely strong enough to single handedly corrupt the verse, and even considered 'the world's enemy', or 'the great enemy'. But eru, like toaa, doesn't engage in the world directly. That's why the things prolong. What happened to melkor later, is he started believing that his physical form is his real self, and restricted himself. hence he's the only valar who felt fear when captured in war of wrath. This lead to the devolvement, and the loss of power, burning by silmarillion, the infamous wound by fingolfin, subsequent loss in war of wrath and dagor dagorath.
This is why morgoth has four clear stages as I already said.
One: At the start of song, full power melkor. The one he used in this thread and the one I'm explaining about.
Two: After the song, whatever power he lost for song corruption/whatever carried to middle earth. Physical melkor. No feats except corruption, and perhaps star constellations of other valar, I'll need to check. etc.
Three: After all the things he created and maiars he corrupted, including sauron. Physical weakened melkor. He's strong enough to transform into a sky high flaming giant and destroy the two trees, as well as sun and moon (the tree essence eaten by a spirit-spider called ungoliant. NOT the one sam killed in rotk. That was shelob.) and random stuff like causing earthquakes and storms.
Four: After gaining and getting burned by silmarillion, pretty much a strong skyrim God/Aedra with a huge army of balrogs and dragons. Morgoth, as the thread is accidentally named after.
Gap between one-two>>>two-three>three-four.
It's not just because I like LOTR above all else, I'd give any such entity the same treatment, like narnia's emperor beyond the sea, (though I haven't read much of him)
A full form melkor at the beginning of song would be, imo, too much to deal with for a skyfather.
Sorry it was long, this is final argument on my side. Just ask me if any words/concepts confused you, or you need anything lotr later.
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