Can Odin defeat Dormammu and Phantom Stranger ?
Odin vs Dormammu and Phantom Stranger
"God" is just a word that describes a title of a status for one who is superior in status to those below it. That's why I chose the word Pantheon otherwise we would be using thousands of "gods" to compare one from another. The "Fear Itself" arc and cross overs can not be used into this debate because it is a loose ended story that strays away from the rest of the continuity. 40 Years of Issues > 6 months of experimented story arc.
What I would like to see is some hard evidence. Someone showing me feats and scans of Dormammu that far outweigh Multiversal destruction and creation.
Something that Dormammu has done, outside of his realm, that has shown he has threatened everything on a cosmic scale across every plane of existence.
Granted.
In this arc, Dormammu plots revenge against Dr. Strange because out of sworn oath, he had promised not to go to Earth to kill Strange. Instead, He goes directly to the realm that houses Eternity in hopes that if he imprisons Eternity, Dr. Strange will come to Eternity's rescue and when he is finished destroying Dr. Strange, he will continue to destroy Eternity. Strange falls into the trap but instead, Dormammu is forced to fight Eternity. Dormammu sacrifices his physical body (power) and blows up Eternity. He reforms in the next issue and Eternity is permanently dead. (Just that one Eternity)
Any being who is powerfull enough to either trap or take on Eternity more than once, is a very powerfull and feared being. As powerfull as Odin is written/percieved to be, I just don't believe that Marvel have put him on par with someone like Dormammu, who's a constant threat to 616, not just a team. I believe Dormammu has more feats that are constant and put him where he is.
In this issue, Dr. Strange is using time to hide from Dormammu. Dr. Strange jumps back in time where the original Guardians of the Universe grants to help him. Dormammu follows and is confronted by the original Guardians including the Phoenix and another Sorcerer Supreme.
This is where he takes over Multi-Eternity.
Dormammu steps outside his realm again to make a mockery of the Elder Gods. He fights Gaea on Earth and imprisons her inside her own world.
Gaea is more powerful than Odin, just to let you know.
Dormammu is not only near omnipotent, he has a somewhat decent fighting ability.
In comparison to the Living Tribunal which relates to:
@Valkaad said:
I think Dormammu is above Odin in terms of power. He has faced Eternity in Battle (Odin wouldn't dream of attempting that). In the original OHOTHMU The Living Tribunals entry even says "One of the most powerful beings in the multiverse, dwarfing even Dormammu in power".
The fact that Dormmamu was used as a benchmark to state Tribunals power says a lot.
Dormammu's avatar in Marvel Zombies was powerful enough to fight the Power Cosmics Zombies.
This was somewhere between the lines of the little chess game of the minds between he and Odin. Don't mind Loki begging Dormammu for his vision.
Out of Odin, Ancient One, Dr. Strange and Dormammu. --- It was Dormammu who had the most effect fighting against Zom.
Zom is beyond Eternity. BEYOND. In fact, the Initial hero of the Zom Saga was Dormammu. Dr. Strange became the aftermath hero of the arc.
There are surprisingly a lot more, but digging into the depth of 40 years of archive is quite obviously too much work.
One does not simply walk into an Archive.
(This information is from the Dormammu vs Odin forum presented by: OneDoesNotSimplyWalkIntoMordor
this guy is a GENIUS!)
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