#1 Posted by King Saturn (225163 posts) - - Show Bio

Can Odin defeat Dormammu and Phantom Stranger ?

#2 Posted by lordraiden (7612 posts) - - Show Bio

odin, in a heartbeat!

#3 Posted by King Saturn (225163 posts) - - Show Bio

lordraiden says:

"odin, in a heartbeat!"

Not in a Heartbeat lordraiden. If you remember Spectre was unable to kill Phantom Stranger ! He turn him into a rodent. And its been stated that Phantom Stranger has power near that of Spectre so this would be a good fight !

#4 Posted by lordraiden (7612 posts) - - Show Bio

King Saturn says:

"lordraiden says:
"odin, in a heartbeat!"
Not in a Heartbeat lordraiden. If you remember Spectre was unable to kill Phantom Stranger ! He turn him into a rodent. And its been stated that Phantom Stranger has power near that of Spectre so this would be a good fight !"

Yeah, I agree not in a heartbeat, don't take it too literally, but he wipes the floor nevertheless! and phantom stranger is far from spectres league! phontom stranger is good, but if spectre wanted to, he could erase him out of existance! if spec could destroy the wizard shazam when he wasn't at full power, he sure as hell can blink out phantom stranger!

#5 Posted by King Saturn (225163 posts) - - Show Bio

lordraiden says:

"King Saturn says:
"lordraiden says:
"odin, in a heartbeat!"
Not in a Heartbeat lordraiden. If you remember Spectre was unable to kill Phantom Stranger ! He turn him into a rodent. And its been stated that Phantom Stranger has power near that of Spectre so this would be a good fight !"
Yeah, I agree not in a heartbeat, don't take it too literally, but he wipes the floor nevertheless! and phantom stranger is far from spectres league! phontom stranger is good, but if spectre wanted to, he could erase him out of existance! if spec could destroy the wizard shazam when he wasn't at full power, he sure as hell can blink out phantom stranger!"

I dont know lordraiden. If history is true about the Phantom Stranger being a fallen angel. Its very much possible The Presence wont grant the power to Spectre to peform a feat of wiping Stranger from Existance. But thats only if history is true according to Wikipedia. LOL

#6 Posted by fear monger (1077 posts) - - Show Bio

odin,is the god of norse gods,dormammu is powerful and so is PS,but odin wins easy

#7 Posted by lordraiden (7612 posts) - - Show Bio

fear monger says:

"odin,is the god of norse gods,dormammu is powerful and so is PS,but odin wins easy"

all the way!

#8 Posted by lordraiden (7612 posts) - - Show Bio

Change of heart, after a whole year of thinking bout it, Dormy and PS!

#9 Posted by Fresh Prince (5226 posts) - - Show Bio
Odin has no chance here....
#10 Posted by Magicalmoment (1516 posts) - - Show Bio

dormy and ps wins

#11 Posted by Fantasma Ghost (1452 posts) - - Show Bio

Poor Odin.

#12 Posted by King Saturn (225163 posts) - - Show Bio
Wow... its amazing what a whole year can do to the perspective of a thread

lol
#13 Posted by lordraiden (7612 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"Wow... its amazing what a whole year can do to the perspective of a thread

lol
"

tell me bout it lol
#14 Posted by King Saturn (225163 posts) - - Show Bio
lordraiden said:
"King Saturn said:
"Wow... its amazing what a whole year can do to the perspective of a thread

lol
"

tell me bout it lol"
LOL

I saw a few other old ass threads... where I wonder to myself " Now why did I say that ? "

Ha Ha Ha
#15 Posted by acewasp23 (6087 posts) - - Show Bio

King Saturn said:

"lordraiden said:
"King Saturn said:
"Wow... its amazing what a whole year can do to the perspective of a thread

lol
"

tell me bout it lol"
LOL

I saw a few other old ass threads... where I wonder to myself " Now why did I say that ? "

Ha Ha Ha
"

i stand by every thing i've said in every thread. LoL

oh yeah this is a bad curbstomp btw. PS and Dormammu for the win.

#16 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

Phantom Stranger is several notches above Skyfather.

Team for the win.

#17 Posted by lordraiden (7612 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"lordraiden said:
"King Saturn said:
"Wow... its amazing what a whole year can do to the perspective of a thread

lol
"

tell me bout it lol"
LOL

I saw a few other old ass threads... where I wonder to myself " Now why did I say that ? "

Ha Ha Ha
"

That's the exact same thing I was thinking when I revived this thread lol
#18 Posted by #1ElderScrollsFan (1991 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe the team wins barely

#19 Posted by TheTmac (472 posts) - - Show Bio

Team.

#20 Posted by grimlock (1567 posts) - - Show Bio

for once in an Odin thread i admit that he gets beat

#21 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@Fantasma Ghost said:

Poor Odin.
#22 Posted by XiiX (9474 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheTmac said:

Team.

#23 Posted by ShootingNova (19054 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin can kiss goodbye to victory.

#24 Posted by LostMind (155 posts) - - Show Bio

"God" is just a word that describes a title of a status for one who is superior in status to those below it. That's why I chose the word Pantheon otherwise we would be using thousands of "gods" to compare one from another. The "Fear Itself" arc and cross overs can not be used into this debate because it is a loose ended story that strays away from the rest of the continuity. 40 Years of Issues > 6 months of experimented story arc.

What I would like to see is some hard evidence. Someone showing me feats and scans of Dormammu that far outweigh Multiversal destruction and creation.
Something that Dormammu has done, outside of his realm, that has shown he has threatened everything on a cosmic scale across every plane of existence.

Granted.

In this arc, Dormammu plots revenge against Dr. Strange because out of sworn oath, he had promised not to go to Earth to kill Strange. Instead, He goes directly to the realm that houses Eternity in hopes that if he imprisons Eternity, Dr. Strange will come to Eternity's rescue and when he is finished destroying Dr. Strange, he will continue to destroy Eternity. Strange falls into the trap but instead, Dormammu is forced to fight Eternity. Dormammu sacrifices his physical body (power) and blows up Eternity. He reforms in the next issue and Eternity is permanently dead. (Just that one Eternity)

Any being who is powerfull enough to either trap or take on Eternity more than once, is a very powerfull and feared being. As powerfull as Odin is written/percieved to be, I just don't believe that Marvel have put him on par with someone like Dormammu, who's a constant threat to 616, not just a team. I believe Dormammu has more feats that are constant and put him where he is.

In this issue, Dr. Strange is using time to hide from Dormammu. Dr. Strange jumps back in time where the original Guardians of the Universe grants to help him. Dormammu follows and is confronted by the original Guardians including the Phoenix and another Sorcerer Supreme.

This is where he takes over Multi-Eternity.

Dormammu as Eternity

Dormammu steps outside his realm again to make a mockery of the Elder Gods. He fights Gaea on Earth and imprisons her inside her own world.

Gaea is more powerful than Odin, just to let you know.

Dormammu is not only near omnipotent, he has a somewhat decent fighting ability.

In comparison to the Living Tribunal which relates to:

@Valkaad said:

I think Dormammu is above Odin in terms of power. He has faced Eternity in Battle (Odin wouldn't dream of attempting that). In the original OHOTHMU The Living Tribunals entry even says "One of the most powerful beings in the multiverse, dwarfing even Dormammu in power".

The fact that Dormmamu was used as a benchmark to state Tribunals power says a lot.

Dormammu's avatar in Marvel Zombies was powerful enough to fight the Power Cosmics Zombies.

This was somewhere between the lines of the little chess game of the minds between he and Odin. Don't mind Loki begging Dormammu for his vision.

Out of Odin, Ancient One, Dr. Strange and Dormammu. --- It was Dormammu who had the most effect fighting against Zom.

Zom is beyond Eternity. BEYOND. In fact, the Initial hero of the Zom Saga was Dormammu. Dr. Strange became the aftermath hero of the arc.

There are surprisingly a lot more, but digging into the depth of 40 years of archive is quite obviously too much work.

One does not simply walk into an Archive.

(This information is from the Dormammu vs Odin forum presented by: OneDoesNotSimplyWalkIntoMordor

this guy is a GENIUS!)

#25 Posted by GhostRider2 (3614 posts) - - Show Bio

The team wins, Dormammu is up there you know...

#26 Posted by xeon1cs (1481 posts) - - Show Bio

I mean...Phantom Stranger can't even fight. So it's basically Dormammu vs Odin.

#27 Posted by AssertingValor (5467 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin cannot overcome this team alone.

#28 Posted by Epicbeast3000 (956 posts) - - Show Bio

Either member of the team can beat Odin in a hard fight. Two of them just stomp.

#29 Posted by SupermanWins465 (218 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin takes a loss on this one.