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#1 Posted by Norbit (72 posts) - - Show Bio

Can they all team up and win????
#2 Posted by Dane (10474 posts) - - Show Bio

no.

#3 Posted by kagetaicho (1983 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dane said:
" no. "
#4 Posted by AtPhantom (14458 posts) - - Show Bio

Just to make one thing perfectly clear, you don't really Apocalypse is a cosmic level being, do you?

Online
#5 Posted by The Mjolnir Wielder (7906 posts) - - Show Bio

LT wins in ridiculously easy fashion, even if you're using Full-Powered Galactus and WPOTC. Just to put it out there, Odin and Apocalypse shouldn't be in this fight.
#6 Posted by Norbit (72 posts) - - Show Bio

YES I DOOOOOOO!!!!!
#7 Edited by Norbit (72 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Mjolnir Wielder:
Why not? Apoc can keep growing bigger and bigger.
Apoc can Curb stomp LT with his gigantic foot. And Odin is very powerful.
#8 Posted by The Mjolnir Wielder (7906 posts) - - Show Bio
@Norbit said:
"@The Mjolnir Wielder: Why not? Apoc can keep growing bigger and bigger and Odin is very powerful "

Odin is only a skyfather-leveler and Apoc's Celestial tech is useless against the 3rd most powerful character in Earth-616.
#9 Posted by Norbit (72 posts) - - Show Bio

i say Apoc curbstomp on LT!
#10 Edited by Superparody (2011 posts) - - Show Bio
@Norbit said:

"i say Apoc curbstomp on LT! "


dont be stupid...size means nothing to an entity that can with but a stray thought destroy Apoc and a entire universe. 
plus you cant harm the Tribunal physically or mentally or magically the only known thing that can currently hurt the tribunal is the HOTU
 

 
#11 Posted by Norbit (72 posts) - - Show Bio

thats harsh...
#12 Edited by Superparody (2011 posts) - - Show Bio
@Norbit said:

"thats harsh... "


...have you even read about the LT? 
he is currently the second most powerful being in the multiverse.
  

And mephisto would kill Apoc
#13 Posted by Norbit (72 posts) - - Show Bio

yeh but i thought if they teamed up they might win.
#14 Edited by Superparody (2011 posts) - - Show Bio
@Norbit said:

"yeh but i thought if they teamed up they might win. "


nope 
Odin - Dies 
Galactus - Dies 
Pheonix - might last for a second of two but still dies 
Apoc - is not a cosmic threat, molecular manipulation pales in comparrison to Reality warping and cosmic energy manipulation
 

 
#15 Posted by Norbit (72 posts) - - Show Bio
@Norbit:
who is the most powerful?
#16 Edited by Superparody (2011 posts) - - Show Bio
@Norbit said:

"@Norbit: who is the most powerful? "



The one Above all - Represents the writers of Marvel ,Supreme being of the Marvel universe
#17 Posted by The Mjolnir Wielder (7906 posts) - - Show Bio
@Norbit said:
"@Norbit: who is the most powerful? "

1. Pre-Retcon Beyonder 
    TOAA 
    Thanos w/ THOTU 
2. Pre-Retcon Molecule Man 
3. Living Tribunal
#18 Posted by TheJuggernautpunch (6135 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Mjolnir Wielder: What ? You put PR Beyonder and HOTU Thanos on the same level as TOAA ?
#19 Posted by JediXMan (27924 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheJuggernautpunch said:
" @The Mjolnir Wielder: What ? You put PR Beyonder and HOTU Thanos on the same level as TOAA ? "
That's what I was thinking.
 
I still say TOAA is #1, and above Beyonder. But I won't get into a debate over that. HotU is below TOAA.
#20 Posted by TheJuggernautpunch (6135 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan: Indeed . No one is more powerful than TOAA .
#21 Posted by The Mjolnir Wielder (7906 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheJuggernautpunch said:
" @The Mjolnir Wielder: What ? You put PR Beyonder and HOTU Thanos on the same level as TOAA ? "

All three of them are omnipotent, so why wouldn't they be on the same level?
#22 Edited by JediXMan (27924 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheJuggernautpunch: 
 
A lot of people say pre-retcon Beyonder = TOAA. I  personally disagree. He should still be a step below. No one should be above the One Above All.
#23 Posted by Superparody (2011 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
"@TheJuggernautpunch said:
" @The Mjolnir Wielder: What ? You put PR Beyonder and HOTU Thanos on the same level as TOAA ? "
All three of them are omnipotent, so why wouldn't they be on the same level? "

pre retcon beyonder was powerful, but he wasnt all knowing - if he was then he would understand everything (love, hate ambition , evil and good) but he made stupid choices and errors
#24 Posted by Deava Aeschma (113 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan said:
" @TheJuggernautpunch:   A lot of people say pre-retcon Beyonder = TOAA. I  personally disagree. He should still be a step below. No one should be above the One Above All. "
PR Beyonder had to give up part of his power to kill Death, something TOAA would not need to do. 
 
Beyonder is below TOAA
#25 Posted by The Mjolnir Wielder (7906 posts) - - Show Bio
@Superparody said:
"@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
"@TheJuggernautpunch said:
" @The Mjolnir Wielder: What ? You put PR Beyonder and HOTU Thanos on the same level as TOAA ? "
All three of them are omnipotent, so why wouldn't they be on the same level? "
pre retcon beyonder was powerful, but he wasnt all knowing - if he was then he would understand everything (love, hate ambition , evil and good) but he made stupid choices and errors "

That still doesn't really matter when determining how powerful someone is. Reece doesn't have the cosmic awareness of Galactus or Eternity, but he's still considerably more powerful than both of them combined.  Pre-Retcon Beyonder was still omnipotent, omnipresent and was stated as being billions of times more powerful than the rest of the multiverse combined.
#26 Posted by JediXMan (27924 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @TheJuggernautpunch said:
" @The Mjolnir Wielder: What ? You put PR Beyonder and HOTU Thanos on the same level as TOAA ? "
All three of them are omnipotent, so why wouldn't they be on the same level? "
Omnipotence means all powerful, not all knowing (Omniscient) or everywhere (Omnipresent). Therefore he is below the One Above All.
#27 Posted by xan84 (4286 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan said:
" @The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @TheJuggernautpunch said:
" @The Mjolnir Wielder: What ? You put PR Beyonder and HOTU Thanos on the same level as TOAA ? "
All three of them are omnipotent, so why wouldn't they be on the same level? "
Omnipotence means all powerful, not all knowing (Omniscient) or everywhere (Omnipresent). Therefore he is below the One Above All. "

If you are Omnipotent then you are omniscient and omnipresent. Omnipotent = you can do whatever you whant and if you whant to be omniscient then you are, if you whant to be omnipresent then you are. 
That said i put TOAA on nr.1 then the rest.
 
What  Deava Aeschma said is also very true. If someone gives something away and he is diminished then he can't be omnipotent aka infinite because something was lost, if you take X from infinte what is left is still infinite.
#28 Posted by The Mjolnir Wielder (7906 posts) - - Show Bio
@Deava Aeschma said:
" @JediXMan said:
" @TheJuggernautpunch:   A lot of people say pre-retcon Beyonder = TOAA. I  personally disagree. He should still be a step below. No one should be above the One Above All. "
PR Beyonder had to give up part of his power to kill Death, something TOAA would not need to do.   Beyonder is below TOAA "

He stated that he didn't have the powerful to recreate Death, but he did anyway (he was limiting himself mentally) when that reporter chose to sacrifice himself.
#29 Posted by xan84 (4286 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
"@Deava Aeschma said:
" @JediXMan said:
" @TheJuggernautpunch:   A lot of people say pre-retcon Beyonder = TOAA. I  personally disagree. He should still be a step below. No one should be above the One Above All. "
PR Beyonder had to give up part of his power to kill Death, something TOAA would not need to do.   Beyonder is below TOAA "
He stated that he didn't have the powerful to recreate Death, but he did anyway (he was limiting himself mentally) when that reporter chose to sacrifice himself. "

Something was still lost, he was diminished and so he can't be on TOAA level. TOAA is inifinte.
#30 Posted by The Mjolnir Wielder (7906 posts) - - Show Bio
@Xan said:
"@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
"@Deava Aeschma said:
" @JediXMan said:
" @TheJuggernautpunch:   A lot of people say pre-retcon Beyonder = TOAA. I  personally disagree. He should still be a step below. No one should be above the One Above All. "
PR Beyonder had to give up part of his power to kill Death, something TOAA would not need to do.   Beyonder is below TOAA "
He stated that he didn't have the powerful to recreate Death, but he did anyway (he was limiting himself mentally) when that reporter chose to sacrifice himself. "
Something was still lost, he was diminished and so he can't be on TOAA level. TOAA is inifinte. "

It was stated throughout Secret Wars II that Pre-Retcon Beyonder was infinite as well. One can't be more powerful than another when both are omnipotent.
#31 Edited by JediXMan (27924 posts) - - Show Bio
@Xan said:

" @JediXMan said:

" @The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @TheJuggernautpunch said:
" @The Mjolnir Wielder: What ? You put PR Beyonder and HOTU Thanos on the same level as TOAA ? "
All three of them are omnipotent, so why wouldn't they be on the same level? "
Omnipotence means all powerful, not all knowing (Omniscient) or everywhere (Omnipresent). Therefore he is below the One Above All. "

If you are Omnipotent then you are omniscient and omnipresent. Omnipotent = you can do whatever you whant and if you whant to be omniscient then you are, if you whant to be omnipresent then you are. 
That said i put TOAA on nr.1 then the rest.
 
What  Deava Aeschma said is also very true. If someone gives something away and he is diminished then he can't be omnipotent aka infinite because something was lost, if you take X from infinte what is left is still infinite. "
This is true in a reality, but in comics the term omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent are used separately (it is irritating, however). That and omnipotence is generally tossed around too much.
#32 Posted by xan84 (4286 posts) - - Show Bio

@The Mjolnir Wielder      
 
How about when doom got his poweres for himself ? He was clearly weak from that. Yes he got them back after but meh .. He realy does not look infinte from my point of view.
#33 Posted by Norbit (72 posts) - - Show Bio

TOAA represents the writers? But they are just ordinary dudes!!!
#34 Posted by xan84 (4286 posts) - - Show Bio
@Norbit said:
"TOAA represents the writers? But they are just ordinary dudes!!! "

Not in comics they are not. They can do whatever they whant with the "comic universe" (as long as they can get $ to) si yeah they are omnipotent there.
#35 Posted by Sun King (390 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
"@Norbit said:
"@Norbit: who is the most powerful? "
1. Pre-Retcon Beyonder     TOAA     Thanos w/ THOTU 2. Pre-Retcon Molecule Man 3. Living Tribunal "

The TOAA is also Stan Lee, therefore beats Pre-Recton Beyonder too!
#36 Posted by SilverGalford (2939 posts) - - Show Bio
@Superparody: i agree , the team die.
#37 Posted by Norbit (72 posts) - - Show Bio
@Superparody said:
"@Norbit said:

"yeh but i thought if they teamed up they might win. "


nope 
Odin - Dies 
Galactus - Dies 
Pheonix - might last for a second of two but still dies 
Apoc - is not a cosmic threat, molecular manipulation pales in comparrison to Reality warping and cosmic energy manipulation
 

 
"

Have you ever heard of teamwork?
#38 Posted by Push (1552 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan said:
" @TheJuggernautpunch said:
" @The Mjolnir Wielder: What ? You put PR Beyonder and HOTU Thanos on the same level as TOAA ? "
That's what I was thinking.  I still say TOAA is #1, and above Beyonder. But I won't get into a debate over that. HotU is below TOAA."
Unfortunately for TOAA, nothing has ever shown that, as PR Beyonder was also a TOAA being.
#39 Posted by Superparody (2011 posts) - - Show Bio
@Norbit said:
"@Superparody said:
"@Norbit said:

"yeh but i thought if they teamed up they might win. "


nope 
Odin - Dies 
Galactus - Dies 
Pheonix - might last for a second of two but still dies 
Apoc - is not a cosmic threat, molecular manipulation pales in comparrison to Reality warping and cosmic energy manipulation
 

 
"
Have you ever heard of teamwork? "

Team work does nothing for this battle, Odin, Galactus and Apoc cant even touch the tribunal and the phoenix force wont be able to do any damage to the tribunal...even all togather his power still dwarfs theirs 

If all these guys fear the tribunal...what hope does your pathetic team have?
#40 Posted by Theworldbreaker (1642 posts) - - Show Bio


 
#41 Posted by sa5m (2112 posts) - - Show Bio
@Theworldbreaker said:
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hehe =P
#42 Posted by Susanoo (5909 posts) - - Show Bio
@Theworldbreaker said:
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#43 Posted by Thor's hammmer (7184 posts) - - Show Bio

this is ridiculos spite and everyone knows it it should be locked
#44 Posted by PowerHerc (78172 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheJuggernautpunch said:
" @JediXMan: Indeed . No one is more powerful than TOAA . "

Yes.
#45 Posted by TheCerealKillz (10266 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @Norbit said:
"@The Mjolnir Wielder: Why not? Apoc can keep growing bigger and bigger and Odin is very powerful "
Odin is only a skyfather-leveler and Apoc's Celestial tech is useless against the 3rd most powerful character in Earth-616. "
Who's second?
#46 Posted by TheGodKiller (299 posts) - - Show Bio

To the person who made this thread :

#47 Edited by TheGodKiller (299 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheJuggernautpunch:

I am. Want proof ?

My nosehairs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TOAA(Kirby/Stan Lee) + LT + Presence + HOTU + Infinity Gauntlet + PR Beyonder +

PR Molecule Man + MoM + Godspawn + Fulcrum.................................................................................and the list goes on and on.

After all there's a reason I am known as the GodKiller .

#48 Posted by TheGoldenOne (38849 posts) - - Show Bio
LT in a horrible curbstomp.
#49 Posted by Killemall (16956 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dane said:

no.
#50 Posted by SilverGalford (2939 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dane said:

no.

that's right