Odin and Thor (marvel) vs Odin and Thor (Norse Mythology)

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#1 Posted by kingkronos (2501 posts) - 11 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

Are they on the same level? If not state your reason.

#2 Posted by Nefarious (16250 posts) - 11 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

No, the mythology is set up differently from the comics.

#3 Posted by kingkronos (2501 posts) - 11 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

@Nefarious said:

No, the mythology is set up differently from the comics.

Did you understand the question?

who's more powerful? And please if you don't know much about mythology, don't comment.

#4 Edited by yeimsick (19 posts) - 11 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

Explain the question more please, Hand to hand combat only or full out battle with no rules?

#5 Posted by kingkronos (2501 posts) - 11 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

@yeimsick said:

Explain more please, hand to hand combat or full out battle with no rules?

No rules. It's just which version is more powerful?

#6 Posted by Trinity00 (2504 posts) - 11 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

Norse they're actual omnipotents.

#7 Posted by kingkronos (2501 posts) - 11 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

@Trinity00 said:

Norse they're actual omnipotents.

They are far far below that..... From what I've heard norse gods are kinda weak.

#8 Posted by Trinity00 (2504 posts) - 11 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

@kingkronos said:

@Trinity00 said:

Norse they're actual omnipotents.

They are far far below that..... From what I've heard norse gods are kinda weak.

I heard Odin is a true omnipotent.

#9 Posted by Almighty_Darkseid (1724 posts) - 11 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

norse

#10 Posted by kingkronos (2501 posts) - 11 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

@Trinity00 said:

@kingkronos said:

@Trinity00 said:

Norse they're actual omnipotents.

They are far far below that..... From what I've heard norse gods are kinda weak.

I heard Odin is a true omnipotent.

And you heard that from.........

#11 Posted by ShootingNova (9458 posts) - 11 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

The actual mythological gods had a lot of power, probably more than Marvel Counterparts.

#12 Posted by FourthDeity (2223 posts) - 11 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

@ShootingNova: Such as?

#13 Posted by ShootingNova (9458 posts) - 11 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

@FourthDeity said:

@ShootingNova: Such as?

Even looking at the relics you can tell they have more power. When Odin throws Gungnir in Marvel, it hits and comes back. In mythology, it would always hit and always kill.

#14 Posted by kingkronos (2501 posts) - 11 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

@FourthDeity said:

@ShootingNova: Such as?

What ShootingNova is trying to say is that in mythology gods don't have powers they have power. In mythology you don't see a god that can't do something, it's just that it depends on the god's level of power and his limits. Unlike comic characters who have powers instead of power.

#15 Posted by ShootingNova (9458 posts) - 11 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

@kingkronos said:

@FourthDeity said:

@ShootingNova: Such as?

What ShootingNova is trying to say is that in mythology gods don't have powers they have power. In mythology you don't see a god that can't do something, it's just that it depends on the god's level of power and his limits. Unlike comic characters who have powers instead of power.

There are gods that couldn't do certain things in mythology, many times. Not just Norse, but in all mythologies.

#16 Posted by tim2081 (503 posts) - 11 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

I think they're close to equal, since a lot of the Norse stories are referenced in the comics. However, they appear weaker in Marvel compared to the other characters, such as Galactus.

#17 Posted by kingkronos (2501 posts) - 11 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

@ShootingNova said:

@kingkronos said:

@FourthDeity said:

@ShootingNova: Such as?

What ShootingNova is trying to say is that in mythology gods don't have powers they have power. In mythology you don't see a god that can't do something, it's just that it depends on the god's level of power and his limits. Unlike comic characters who have powers instead of power.

There are gods that couldn't do certain things in mythology, many times. Not just Norse, but in all mythologies.

True, that depends on the limits of a gods' power.

#18 Posted by ShootingNova (9458 posts) - 11 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

@kingkronos said:

@ShootingNova said:

@kingkronos said:

@FourthDeity said:

@ShootingNova: Such as?

What ShootingNova is trying to say is that in mythology gods don't have powers they have power. In mythology you don't see a god that can't do something, it's just that it depends on the god's level of power and his limits. Unlike comic characters who have powers instead of power.

There are gods that couldn't do certain things in mythology, many times. Not just Norse, but in all mythologies.

True, that depends on the limits of a gods' power.

There were things gods couldn't do at their full strength anyways. But some were quite impressive.

#19 Posted by Z3RO180 (3788 posts) - 11 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

@kingkronos: No comment

#20 Posted by FourthDeity (2223 posts) - 11 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

@kingkronos: @ShootingNova: ahh I see Thank you both for clarifying but if marvel odin vs the people mythology odin fought I'm almost certain he would one shot them too.

#21 Posted by The_Thunderer (2883 posts) - 11 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

in terms of feats marvel has more, but as someone mentioned the Gods are not limited by having to make their comics seem interesting so they will sell, and do not change with writers and so are consistently more powerful.

#22 Posted by kingkronos (2501 posts) - 11 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

@FourthDeity said:

@kingkronos: @ShootingNova: ahh I see Thank you both for clarifying but if marvel odin vs the people mythology odin fought I'm almost certain he would one shot them too.

And who the hell is that?

Also if you mean myth odin then no. Odin was very powerful in mythology.

#23 Posted by FourthDeity (2223 posts) - 11 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

@kingkronos: Nah not odin. The people Mythology odin one shotted

#24 Posted by kingkronos (2501 posts) - 11 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

@FourthDeity said:

@kingkronos: Nah not odin. The people Mythology odin one shotted

Who the hell is "the people Mythology odin"???

#25 Posted by FourthDeity (2223 posts) - 11 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

@kingkronos: You said Mythology Odin one shotted who ever he fought right?

Im saying Marvel Odin could do the same.

#26 Posted by kingkronos (2501 posts) - 11 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

@FourthDeity said:

@kingkronos: You said Mythology Odin one shotted who ever he fought right?

Im saying Marvel Odin could do the same.

And when did I ever state that?

And no marvel odin could not one shot anybody from marvel and escpecially not from mythology.

I said he is powerful but he's not going around one shotting people in mythology. He is a wise and powerful warrior. In norse myth, the gods were all warriors. So odin being the god of war means alot.

#27 Posted by FourthDeity (2223 posts) - 11 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

@ShootingNova said:

@ShootingNova said:

@FourthDeity said:

@ShootingNova: Such as?

Even looking at the relics you can tell they have more power. When Odin throws Gungnir in Marvel, it hits and comes back. In mythology, it would always hit and always kill.

I May have misinterpreted that

#28 Edited by ShootingNova (9458 posts) - 11 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

@The_Thunderer said:

in terms of feats marvel has more, but as someone mentioned the Gods are not limited by having to make their comics seem interesting so they will sell, and do not change with writers and so are consistently more powerful.

The fight is as easy as this: Mythological Odin throws Gungnir, Marvel Odin dies.

#29 Posted by Mad8Baller (469 posts) - 11 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

Odin is overpowered in the mythology as compared to this current Marvel Odin who's old and no longer a solo war machine.
As for the Thors -
Myth Thor is the absolute god of Thunder.  His hammer when it clashes generates electricity.  He isn't like Thor who charges up.

#30 Posted by ShootingNova (9458 posts) - 11 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

@Mad8Baller said:

Odin is overpowered in the mythology as compared to this current Marvel Odin who's old and no longer a solo war machine. As for the Thors - Myth Thor is the absolute god of Thunder. His hammer when it clashes generates electricity. He isn't like Thor who charges up.

How is he overpowered when you look at someone like Surtr, Jormungandr, Fenrir, Ymir etc.

#31 Posted by MightySammy94 (21 posts) - 2 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

Bump

#32 Posted by ShootingNova (9458 posts) - 2 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

Why the bump?

@ShootingNova said:

The fight is as easy as this: Mythological Odin throws Gungnir, Marvel Odin dies.

LOL. Nova, you scrub. How could you?

Marvel team stomps. Better feats in almost everything.

#33 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (4574 posts) - 2 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

@ShootingNova said:

Why the bump?

@ShootingNova said:

The fight is as easy as this: Mythological Odin throws Gungnir, Marvel Odin dies.

LOL. Nova, you scrub. How could you?

Marvel team stomps. Better feats in almost everything.

Did you just quote yourself? And you are contradicting your own opinion, well, and sound unlike you generally do.. everything ok mate?

(shared account or dual personality?)

#34 Posted by ShootingNova (9458 posts) - 2 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

@PrinceAragorn1: It was kind of a joke...... but it was kind of true because I didn't want people to get mislead by my past garbage.

#35 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (4574 posts) - 2 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

@ShootingNova said:

@PrinceAragorn1: It was kind of a joke...... but it was kind of true because I didn't want people to get mislead by my past garbage.

Changed personality then.. lameeee... dual would have been much cooler :p

#36 Posted by ShootingNova (9458 posts) - 2 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

@PrinceAragorn1: No, it was just past stupidity has no worth in this thread.

#37 Edited by PrinceAragorn1 (4574 posts) - 2 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

@ShootingNova said:

@Mad8Baller said:

Odin is overpowered in the mythology as compared to this current Marvel Odin who's old and no longer a solo war machine. As for the Thors - Myth Thor is the absolute god of Thunder. His hammer when it clashes generates electricity. He isn't like Thor who charges up.

How is he overpowered when you look at someone like Surtr, Jormungandr, Fenrir, Ymir etc.

Btw, Thor did beat Jormungand in ragnorok, though he died in effort due to venom. Surtur was nemesis/destined enemy of freyr, I daresay thor could've handled him.. fenrir was beaten by vidar, and thor may have done as good. Idk how odin failed and vidar succeeded though. Ymir, we really don't know how tough the battle was, but probably I'd was stronger than thor..

There really aren't a lot who can beat thor 1 on 1 in the norse myths (I haven't touched it in a while though)

One battle I'd die to watch was tyr vs thor though. The war God vs the strongest aesir.. it'd be incredible.

#38 Posted by ShootingNova (9458 posts) - 2 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

@PrinceAragorn1: Yes, I know.

Odin failed because the Norns destined him to die by Fenrir, and so it was. Tyr died killing Garmr.

#39 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (4574 posts) - 2 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

@ShootingNova said:

@PrinceAragorn1: Yes, I know.

Odin failed because the Norns destined him to die by Fenrir, and so it was. Tyr died killing Garmr.

still, the guy needed a bit more focus, only thing I can remember him being distinct was losing his arm. Kind of sad.. and he may not have died with both arms..

#40 Posted by ShootingNova (9458 posts) - 2 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

@PrinceAragorn1: He lost a hand, not an arm.

#41 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (4574 posts) - 2 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

@ShootingNova said:

@PrinceAragorn1: He lost a hand, not an arm.

hand then..

#42 Posted by Racob7 (719 posts) - 2 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

I'd say Marvel. In Marvel Odin is Galaxy level but in the mythology he was eaten by a wolf. Then again it was Fenrir.

#43 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (4574 posts) - 2 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

@Racob7: Myth odin has a 100% kill spear.

#44 Posted by Racob7 (719 posts) - 2 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

@PrinceAragorn1: Point. Gungnir is instakill I agree.

#45 Posted by ShootingNova (9458 posts) - 2 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

@Racob7: @PrinceAragorn1: I doubt Odin could throw in time before his Marvel counterpart kills him. Marvel Odin can freeze time, project barriers, and so forth.

#46 Posted by Racob7 (719 posts) - 2 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

@ShootingNova: What about Thor?

#47 Posted by ShootingNova (9458 posts) - 2 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

@Racob7: Kindly explain to me how shattering mountains and calling upon featless lightning is winning against throwing Mjolnir which travels at FTL speeds, creating cosmic hurricanes, summoning winds from a thousand worlds, and so forth?

#48 Posted by Racob7 (719 posts) - 2 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

@ShootingNova: I didn't say he could win. I'm saying how much of a fight could he put up before he's down?

#49 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (4574 posts) - 2 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

@ShootingNova said:

@Racob7: Kindly explain to me how shattering mountains and calling upon featless lightning is winning against throwing Mjolnir which travels at FTL speeds, creating cosmic hurricanes, summoning winds from a thousand worlds, and so forth?

touche. Only awesome thing thor has done in the myth was lifting the world serpent and holding his own against time/age..

#50 Posted by 18hunt (2242 posts) - 2 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

Norse dominate

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