Team 1. Master Order and Lord Chaos usually are used to get beaten down by omnipotent guys like IG Thanos, but all abstracts are most likely above principalities, and I think even weaker abstracts like MO and LC should be able to win. My opinion of elder gods continues to drop when I think of Gaia begging the Celestials for mercy in the Thor-Celestial saga, and both Chthon and Set ran from the Demogorge (although that was before Chthon's and Set's power was increased by millennia of worship from humans).
@space_coyote: Just going by the fact that MO and LC are universal (maybe omniversal) abstracts, and chthon & set are just eldergods of one planet in the 616 universe, also I can't think of any awesome eldergod feats atm, most impressive thing i can think of was how classic Strange was sort of scared of Chthon.
Oblivion >>>>>>>>>>> Chthon and Set >>>>> Order and Master.
Oblivion solo those, he is the embodiment of nothingness, the very oppositionen of Eternity which is everything that is..
The omniverse is made of everything there is and nothing at all. This nothing at is is Oblivion, he will never die, can't be harmed etc.
Chthon is one of the Dark creatures, he is a shadow demon, he and Set should be subject to Oblivion. Order and Chaos r not actually threats here, maybe Order and Chaos vs Set might be a better match imo
The embodiment of Time had a struggle with Oblivion. He can be harmed. Cyttorak and Juggernaut negated Oblivion's power. The Marvel Demiurge released its God powers while traveling to "the sun" (which means the heavens in general) and thus created the Pantheons of Asgard and Olympus. Chthon was a tribulation beyond that power even still. It is very similar to The Source and the Godwave of DC creating the new Gods and older Gods the first time the Godwave was released. Chthon being an entire tier above that and Set copying many of the abilities he watched Chthon perform.
Oblivion sucks and still wanking him is nothing short of deeply pathetic
Set fought the Demogorge (A being that's supposed to basically be the end of all Skyfathers) for millions of years and Chthon did something impressive that one time
@emmett_frost: If you put Oblivion at Eternity level, do you feel there is context to Eternity stating Cthon was killing her with his presence. This was during the Pietro possession run.
I always put Chthon over his normal status as elder god due to his chaos magic which allows him to punch out of his weight-class. I admit it is less clear of a case after retcon removing the chaos wave from him though.
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