#1 Posted by Batmanfanboy (1139 posts) - - Show Bio

So I am reading nova,marvel now.

I see Kid Nova going so fast he space jumps and somehow ends up in another part of space...

How fast is this compared to flash speeds?

#2 Edited by Batman242 (4860 posts) - - Show Bio

The fastest I've seen from New 52 Flash is running at escape velocity. He can actually go faster, but has to increase mass to keep from drifting out to space.

Then there's him outrunning the Omega Beams...

#3 Edited by waezi2 (7149 posts) - - Show Bio

@batmanfanboy: A Nova Centurion with standard power-set has march 3 speed, so Flash is faster.

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#4 Posted by Batmanfanboy (1139 posts) - - Show Bio
#5 Edited by dondave (36504 posts) - - Show Bio

Nova isn't faster. Barry in the New 52 has been able run at nearly the Speed of Light.

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#6 Edited by reaverlation (15596 posts) - - Show Bio

Current Barry is way slower than Superman travel wise but sh!tstomps Superman combat wise(just so people don't get confused)so not sure.

#7 Posted by Batmanfanboy (1139 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: The speed of light is slow just so everyone knows this,it is just very long lasting in existence.

It takes Hundreds of thousands of years for the light of a dying star to travel across space so we from earth can see it,Nova jumped from 1 part of space to the other in 1 second.

just to put it in perspective.

I just wanted to know if flash was doing his time warp feats yet

#8 Edited by Batman242 (4860 posts) - - Show Bio

@batman242: sooo is nova faster atm?

Maybe. Flash, like I said earlier can go faster than escape velocity, which is Mach 34. How fast did Nova go exactly?

#9 Posted by Batman242 (4860 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

Nova isn't faster. Barry in the New 52 has been able run at nearly the Speed of Light.

When did he do that?

#10 Posted by Batmanfanboy (1139 posts) - - Show Bio
#11 Posted by Batmanfanboy (1139 posts) - - Show Bio

@waezi2: This isn't a nova centurion.

These are black novas or "Super novas"


#12 Posted by godzilla44 (3036 posts) - - Show Bio

@batmanfanboy: I hope you know that's travel speed not combat speed and wouldn't help in fight.

#13 Posted by dondave (36504 posts) - - Show Bio

@batmanfanboy: Nova teleported from the Moon to Jupiter, it's not like he went to the other side of the Universe.

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#14 Posted by dondave (36504 posts) - - Show Bio

@batman242: Multiple times throughout his series. It was the focus of one it arcs, whenever he ran near the Speed of light he seemed to create wormholes in time.

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#15 Posted by Floopay (8721 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: it looks like he's opening stargates without knowing it. A standard ability in the Nova arsenal.

All Nova members can easily top escape velocity and hit Mach 50+ in combat. Just an FYI.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#16 Edited by Batman242 (4860 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: As I recall it, the wormholes were because of Turbine. He'd open them only when he saw/sensed that Barry was using the energy from the Speed Force.

#17 Posted by Batmanfanboy (1139 posts) - - Show Bio

@floopay: a rare appearance by you..i remember seeing you a lot more a few years ago

#18 Posted by MonsterStomp (16949 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman kick all ya'll asses.

#19 Posted by dondave (36504 posts) - - Show Bio

@batman242: They were, that's why I said they seemed to be because of Barry. But the fact remains that Dr Elias clocked Barry running at near the speed of light.

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#20 Posted by Floopay (8721 posts) - - Show Bio

@floopay: a rare appearance by you..i remember seeing you a lot more a few years ago

I'm on a couple times a week. Life has gotten a bit busier, but I still make a point to stop in :)

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#21 Posted by Batman242 (4860 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: I'll reread those issues. Thanks for the info.

#22 Edited by waezi2 (7149 posts) - - Show Bio

@batmanfanboy: He is Supernova level? Does that mean he carry the Nova Force like Garthan Saal and Rich Rider, the former Supernovas?

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#23 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

@waezi2 said:

@batmanfanboy: He is Supernova level? Does that mean he carry the Nova Force like Garthan Saal and Rich Rider, the former Supernovas?

I don't think so, he was rather easily dealt with by BRB in his last issue. And is he really flying that fast or is he using jumping through hyperspace?

Of course in fight speed Flash is faster anyway.

#24 Posted by waezi2 (7149 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666:

That could explain it. Nova centurions CAN jump through hyperspace by the use of star-gates.

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#25 Posted by Batmanfanboy (1139 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666: i think Novas can fight at mach 50

Mach 3 is speed of sound so idk how far and beyond mach 50 is.

#26 Posted by dondave (36504 posts) - - Show Bio

@batmanfanboy: What feats makes you think that they can fight at Mach 50?

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#27 Edited by Batmanfanboy (1139 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave:

Superhuman Speed: By channeling the Nova Force properly, Rider can grant himself the ability to run and move at speeds that are beyond the physical limits of the finest human athlete. While the upper limit of his running speed isn't known, he can at least run several hundred miles an hour. He can move at speeds faster than light

http://marvel.wikia.com/Richard_Rider_(Earth-616)

Put it this way: if Mach 1 is somewhere at 344 mph, Mach of speed of light would be:

186,000 mph/344 mph.

Calculate, then the result is the Mach.

I think it's somewhere at 5,000+.


He can fight way higher than mach 50 the,that was a under calculation on my end.

#28 Posted by dondave (36504 posts) - - Show Bio

@batmanfanboy: IIRC Richard has never flown at the speed of light. Also how does flight speed suddenly turn into combat speed?

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#29 Posted by Batmanfanboy (1139 posts) - - Show Bio

One of a novas best feats without using the Nova force,he is not even stressing this level of speed and he is attacking here.

Traveling at point 6 superluminal.

Superluminal is faster than speed of light,point 6 would be 6 times faster than that.

I didn't even know nova was this fast until I looked it up my self.

The only thing stopping him from altering time is the fact there is no real time in space.

#30 Posted by Batmanfanboy (1139 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: just proved you wrong obviously lol...hes flown 6 times faster than the speed of light. ^ see scan

#31 Posted by dondave (36504 posts) - - Show Bio

@waezi2: Sam is a SuperNova not a Nova Prime. They're are basically another class of Nova's. It has nothing to do with their power level

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#32 Posted by Batmanfanboy (1139 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: I am not talking about POWER level I am talking about speed lol that's all and we are talking standard speed level of novas,this is the standard.

Please remember this kid is 15

#33 Posted by dondave (36504 posts) - - Show Bio

@batmanfanboy: You did not prove me wrong. He's travelling 0.6 Superluminal as in under the Speed of light, not six times the Speed of light.

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#34 Posted by dondave (36504 posts) - - Show Bio

@batmanfanboy: I was answering Waezi2's question as to whether Supernova's possess the full Nova Force, my reply wasn't directed at you in any way.

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#35 Edited by Batmanfanboy (1139 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: Superluminal definition is faster than speed of light and without using Nova force or trying.

point 6 superluminal would normally be slower than speed of light but do to the fact by definition it already faster than speed of light. saying point 6 doesn't negate the fact he is going Superluminal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superluminal_motion

it's comic books dude...some people can be faster/fight faster than flash it's ok lol

Had it bee under the speed of light then they would of said point 6 at the speed of light.

#36 Posted by Batmanfanboy (1139 posts) - - Show Bio
#37 Posted by Gizmorino (322 posts) - - Show Bio

I think nova has FTL travel speed

#38 Edited by Sovereign91001 (4223 posts) - - Show Bio

@batmanfanboy said:

@dondave:

Superhuman Speed: By channeling the Nova Force properly, Rider can grant himself the ability to run and move at speeds that are beyond the physical limits of the finest human athlete. While the upper limit of his running speed isn't known, he can at least run several hundred miles an hour. He can move at speeds faster than light

http://marvel.wikia.com/Richard_Rider_(Earth-616)

Put it this way: if Mach 1 is somewhere at 344 mph, Mach of speed of light would be:

186,000 mph/344 mph.

Calculate, then the result is the Mach.

I think it's somewhere at 5,000+.

He can fight way higher than mach 50 the,that was a under calculation on my end.

Your calculations are off, Mach 1 is ~340 Meters per second or ~761 mph

and @dondave is right, he's flying 60% of the speed of light. 1.0 Superluminal is the speed of light, anything over that would be faster. If he was travelling 6 times the speed of light, it would have said 6.0 (600%) Superluminal.

Not .06 (sixty percent).

The only way he travels FTL is through Stargates.

#39 Edited by Batmanfanboy (1139 posts) - - Show Bio

@sovereign91001: well if that's true then regardless. the fact he was .6 below superluminal without nova force or trying means he can go faster than light which explains why it says so in his bio.

#40 Posted by Sovereign91001 (4223 posts) - - Show Bio

@sovereign91001: well if that's true then regardless. the fact he was .6 below superluminal without nova force or trying means he can go faster than light which explains why it says so in his bio.

He can go FTL through stargates only, he doesn't have any non Star Gate FTL feats. And he was using the Nova Force, anytime he uses his abilities he uses the Nova Force.

#41 Posted by Batmanfanboy (1139 posts) - - Show Bio

@sovereign91001: Nova force is where he can get his power from but it comes at percentages of power.

Without the helmet holding him back he became one of the strongest marvel characters.

He wasn't using much nova force in the scan if at all any.

But ok,don't tell me.

Tell who ever edited his BIO on marvel.com

#42 Posted by Sovereign91001 (4223 posts) - - Show Bio

@sovereign91001: Nova force is where he can get his power from but it comes at percentages of power.

Without the helmet holding him back he became one of the strongest marvel characters.

He wasn't using much nova force in the scan if at all any.

But ok,don't tell me.

Tell who ever edited his BIO on marvel.com

He couldn't control the whole Nova Force without the Worldmind and even with all that power, he was still below say the Silver Surfer tier, I'd put him in the mid-herald tier probably.

Anywho, stuff like that is one of the reasons most people on the battle boards will tell you those bio's are bunk.

#43 Posted by Batmanfanboy (1139 posts) - - Show Bio

@sovereign91001: No im pretty sure this version of nova at full power was one of marvels strongest maybe you thought I meant quasar

#44 Posted by Sovereign91001 (4223 posts) - - Show Bio