Northstar vs Quicksilver

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#51  Edited By Edenstar
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Not really. After checking put this battle, I see people really overestimate Northstar. He has the pontintial ability to move at the speed of light but does not possesses the ability to withstand that level of speed. If he were to do that he'd cause massive damage to the surrounding area and kill himself. He also can barely breath in flight is he surpasses 60 miles per hour and that is only due to intensive physical training.  
 
Quicksilver on the other hand does not possesses that sort of pontintial but does have other advantages. While his maxium is around Mach 4 his body's physiology is completely dedicated to reaching that pontintial. Quicksilver can breath at speeds humans would not be able to, his eyes are built to withstand the air rushing past them, his tendons are strong enough to deal with the impact of his feet make when he runs, his bones are stronger for the same reason as the tendons, while the regular human body only gets 25% maximum energy of the food that a person eats, Quicksilver get 95% and his body generates no fatigue toxins, so he doesn't get tired by running.  
 
Basically, Northstar has pontintial  but no way to tap into and is limited, while Quicksilver can tap into his maxuim without restraint.   
 
If you don't believe those reasons, let's look at Mimic who copied half of Northstar's speed/abilities and Colussus' iron body. Mimic maxed out half of Northstar's lightspeed (900,000 mps) while using Colussus' armor to protect himself and he tore himself apart! He was far more durable than Northstar and half lightspeed all but killed him.
 
My verdict:  
Fight: 50/50.  Quicksilver is faster overall and a better fighter, but Northstar can generate intense light and concussive blast and still is a speedster.  
Race: Quicksilver. Northstar can't compete with someone who doesn't get tired and doesn't have to worry about breathing issues.
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#52  Edited By alexander121793

Here is a list of Northstar's powers and abilities.

 

Powers

Gestalt Photokinesis: Originally he could only generate light when in physical contact with his twin sister Aurora. Should he link hands with Aurora, they could generate a light equivalent to a lighthouse beacon (one million foot candles) by each sibling’s varying the rate of acceleration of his or her own molecules out of phase with those of the other’s.

Photokinesis: can generate from his body a bright white light equivalent at maximum intensity to half million-foot candles. He does so by varying the rate of acceleration of the molecules of his body out of phase with one another, thereby generating a cascade of photonic discharges.

  • Concussive Blasts: ability to send out powerful concussive blasts that can do considerable damage. He can project these from his hands and out from his body in a series of concussive bursts.

Superhuman Speed: possesses the ability to propel his body at superhuman speed, becoming a living projectile. Through an act of concentration, Northstar can channel a portion of the kinetic energy of the atomic motion in his body’s molecules in a single direction. This can accelerate his body in a velocity in direct proportions to the amount of kinetic energy he has tapped. It was once theoretically possible for him to reach 99% of the speed of light (186, 272 miles per second in a vacuum), although he never traveled at anywhere near that speed since if he did, he would wreak great damage upon himself and his environment. Northstar can also move a portion of his body at superhuman speed at a time.

  • Heightened Reflexes: possesses reflexes far above the average human. Reflexes are so advanced that he can go through an entire apartment, checking all the rooms and taking out the survivors in just mere seconds.
  • Flight: ability to propel himself through the air. To hover in mid-air Northstar applies thrust downward in a carefully controlled manner. When carrying another, unprotected human being aloft, Northstar does not move faster than 60 miles per hour in order that his "passenger" may be able to breathe easily (Northstar himself can breathe at somewhat higher rates due to training) and so that the "passenger" will not suffer harm from wind, friction, or air turbulence.
  • Accelerated Metabolism: possesses a boosted metabolism that can be used to heal wounds quickly.
  • Enhanced Durability: as a side effect of partially robbing his molecules of their atomic motion, the binding forces within and between the molecules increase. This enhances the sheer toughness of Northstar's entire body. This effect gives his skin enough durability to withstand the ravages of wind, friction and air turbulence.
  • G-Force Compensation: ability to use his super speed to automatically compensate for any G-Force difference.

 

AbilitiesNorthstar is a world-class professional skier, skilled trapeze artist, and an accomplished novelist. He also speaks fluent French. After resurrection by The Hand, Northstar has been trained in the deadly martial arts. Northstar is very skilled in aerial combat.

 

Here is quicksilvers

 

Current Powers
  • Speed Physiology: Pietro's body is adapted towards the rigors of high-speed running. His cardiovascular and respiratory systems are many times more efficient than those of a normal human being. He metabolizes an estimated 95% of the caloric energy content of foodstuffs (normal humans use about 25%). The chemical processes of Quicksilver's musculature are so highly enhanced that his body does not generate fatigue poisons, the normal by-products of locomotion, which force the body to rest. Rather, his body constantly expels waste products during his accelerated respiration through exhalation. His joints are smoother and lubricated more efficiently than those of a normal human being. His tendons have the tensile strength of spring steel. His bones contain unknown materials significantly more durable than calcium to withstand the dynamic shocks of his feet touching the ground at speeds a human could never achieve or withstand. Quicksilver's practical reaction time is several times faster than a normal human's and the speed at which his brain processes information is heightened to a level commensurate with his bodily speed, enabling him to perceive his surroundings while traveling at high velocities. Quicksilver's lachrymose is more viscous than normal, thus preventing rapid evaporation and replenishment of surface fluids on his eyeballs under the influence of high wind velocity to occlude his vision.
  • Superhuman Speed: He was originally capable of running faster than the speed of sound (770 miles per hour). He had sufficient energy reserves that enabled him to run at this average speed for an unknown amount of hours before reducing his speed to replenish his body's store of energy. Quicksilver has used his powers of acceleration for various feats. He has plucked an arrow out of the air from a standing start, and has dodged machine gun fire. He has created cyclone-like gusts of wind, which are able to knock a man off his feet. He is able to run across the Atlantic Ocean and to oversea continents without having to stop, run up the sides of buildings effortlessly, and also seems able to use some type of energy, comparing it to "his father's power". After being captured by the High Evolutionary, where his powers were upgraded by Isotope E, his speeds have been increased until he was capable of reaching high supersonic speeds up to at least Mach 4 (3,080 miles per hour), the true extent of his new speeds are unknown. It is possible that he could run at even greater speeds if he was not limited by geological and atmospheric conditions. Quicksilver is also immune to the effects of friction, reduced oxygen up to a point where a human can no longer breathe, and impact upon his body while moving at super-speeds. He has traveled around the world by running on top of the ocean water and even ran all the way up Mount Everest without slowing down and went flying above cloud level as a result.
  • Molecular Destabilization: Through the course of his life as a mutant, his super speed has granted him numerous abilities. One of the very peculiar ones was being able to vibrate his molecular structure at high speeds. Different writers used it for different things that were often absurd or completely ignored it. He has demonstrated the full effect which enables him to destabilize atomic matter by accelerating its molecules often causing it to fall apart or explode usually by touching it. It is unknown if he can do this from a distance like his nephew Thomas Shepherd. Another example can be found in Uncanny X-Men #44, when he had the ability to fly for short periods of time.
  • Superhuman Strength: Pietro possesses superhuman strength in his lower body as part of his body's adaptations for running. With his upper body he can lift (press) approximately 1000 pounds while his legs can press approximately 1 ton under optimal conditions.
  • Enhanced Durability: He is capable of resisting tremendous impact forces that could easily crush and kill a human without suffering any serious external or internal injuries.
  • Precognitive Immunity: Perhaps due to his close relation to the Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver is invisible to Layla Miller's precognition.

 

Abilities

Quick Intellect: Pietro is able to think at great speeds, contrary to his impulsiveness.

Skilled Combatant He has been trained in martial arts and other forms of combat by Captain America making him an excellent fighter.

 

Based on the describtions for both I haved to say Northstar wins both.

 

For the fight: Northstar is faster, has light control powers and he can fly and I dou't quicksilver has high enough reflects to dodge lightspeed blasts. Northstar wins.

 

For the race: It would be closer but I still say Northstar. While Northstar cannot handle traveling at 99% of the speed of light he can pretty much handle going virtualy any speed slowerthan that  and his safe speed is still faster than quicksilvers.

 

Northstar has the added benifit of flight in the race. While Quicksilver would have to go around buildings, objects, people ect. Northstar could simply fly over them and straight to the destination.

 

So even if Quicksilver somehow has slightly better reflectes he would still lose time by going around by buildings, objects, people ect. and when your racing someone faster than you that can be a major disadvantage.

 

So while quicksilver is running around obstacles Northstar could simply fly over them at way faster speeds than mach 4 and be at the finish line before Quicksilver.

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#53  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

Northstar is faster than Quicksilver, and I believe a better fighter (not sure on that, though).

That said, both lose. A lot. And Northstar has been losing a lot lately.

Still, I say Northstar.

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#54  Edited By TheGoldenOne

Northstar for both rounds

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Bump c:

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Um i don't know a lot about Northstar but if he really is as impressive as this why didn't fox include him in the X-Men movies? My guess is Quicksilver probably wins because he is argubly Marvel's most iconic speedster, and has taken part in both Races Across the Universe. If Northstar is really that powerful, you guys should make a Northstar v Makkari forum.

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Wait no sorry change my mind Northstar is 99% lightspeed. Northstar kicks Quicksilver's mutant ass. Northstar is so powerful that he wears glasses to protect his eyes from super high air pressure. QS doesn't cause he's slow.

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Northstar wins both rounds.

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#59  Edited By Zemoftw

Quicksilver

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Gonna go ahead and bump this, current Quicksilver blitzes

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Pretty sure QS is faster since he is LS now

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@fernandeztimothygian: Dr. Voodoo said Pietro went "beyond the limits of speed as we know it" so it's pretty safe to assume he's well above lightspeed now

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Nice thread. Going with Northstar

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Current QS and easily.

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#66  Edited By HellionVulcan

Quicksilver murderstomps going by his feats in No Surrender.

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Quicksilver is legit MFTL character now, he has.....

  • Outrun Radiowaves
  • Outrun Artifical Blackhole of High Evolutionary
  • Performed Picosecond tier feat
  • Broke Space-Time Barrier (something only Flashes and Silver Surfer can do) and reached speed which was beyond the limits of the speed of physical reality and travelled to the dimension which is far beyond space and time.

With these kind of feats the guy is now closer to The Flash's level of speed, lol......