Normbolts VS Marauders

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#1  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

No one on the Ledger liked this....So enjoy :( 

Marauders:
-Sabretooth (no adamantium)
-Gambit (bo-staff, 3 decks)
-Harpoon (quiver of harpoons)
-Riptide
-Arclight
-Vertigo
-Blockbuster
-Scalphunter (accurate assault rifle w/ scope, large blade)



VS

 
Normbolts:
Green Goblin (Glider, bag of bombs, razorbats)
Bullseye (daggers, sais)
Venom (Gargan)
Headsman (glider, power-axe)
Swordsman (standard blade)
Grizzly
Nuke/Scourge (assault rifle)

  
Location:
Downtown Tokyo.  Unpopulated, begin at opposite ends of a main street (roughly 200 feet).  Everyone begins on the ground level.  Everything is on limits.

Rules:
-Neither team has knowledge.
-Morals apply.
-Standard elimination rules.    

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#2  Edited By Mercy_

Assuming Gambit doesn't have his death powers?

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#3  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

Correct.
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#4  Edited By texasdeathmatch

THOR WINZ.
 
But this is interesting...I'd leaning towards Norman's Thunderbolts because of Venom and Grizzly, but Vertigo could def turn the tables for Marauders. Scratch that, I'm choosing the Marauders

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#5  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@texasdeathmatch said:
"THOR WINZ.  But this is interesting...I'd leaning towards Norman's Thunderbolts because of Venom and Grizzly, but Vertigo could def turn the tables for Marauders. Scratch that, I'm choosing the Marauders "

LOL.  You outdebated yourself.
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#6  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@k4tzm4n said:
" @texasdeathmatch said:
"THOR WINZ.  But this is interesting...I'd leaning towards Norman's Thunderbolts because of Venom and Grizzly, but Vertigo could def turn the tables for Marauders. Scratch that, I'm choosing the Marauders "
LOL.  You outdebated yourself. "
it happens often. You should see what happens when it gets physical
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#7  Edited By texasdeathmatch

BA BUMP, this is a fantastic thread. THINK, YOU FOOLS. Stop going the easy route and simply picking your favorite character. This shits infinitely more exciting to think about

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#8  Edited By nightwing91

Marauders

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#9  Edited By cattlebattle

the Thunderbolts--The Marauders greatest feat was killing a race of unarmed non powerful mutants, then ganging up on the X-Men, The Thunderbolts are comprised of some the most dangerous villians in Marvel, who, have probably killed a lot more people
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#10  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@cattlebattle said:
"the Thunderbolts--The Marauders greatest feat was killing a race of unarmed non powerful mutants, then ganging up on the X-Men, The Thunderbolts are comprised of some the most dangerous villians in Marvel, who, have probably killed a lot more people "

No. 
1) The Marauder's have done well against the X-Men at least twice now. 
2) Most dangerous villains? You must be kidding me.  I'm a big fan of them, but they're hardly the deadliest, even in terms of street level.   And having a higher kill count doesn't mean jack, especially considering they've had dozens of more appearances.
 
 
@nightwing91 said:
"Marauders "

Why? 
 
@texasdeathmatch
said:
"BA BUMP, this is a fantastic thread. THINK, YOU FOOLS. Stop going the easy route and simply picking your favorite character. This shits infinitely more exciting to think about "

LMAO! You're on a roll today. 
 
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#11  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@k4tzm4n said:
" @cattlebattle said:
"the Thunderbolts--The Marauders greatest feat was killing a race of unarmed non powerful mutants, then ganging up on the X-Men, The Thunderbolts are comprised of some the most dangerous villians in Marvel, who, have probably killed a lot more people "

No. 
1) The Marauder's have done well against the X-Men at least twice now. 
2) Most dangerous villains? You must be kidding me.  I'm a big fan of them, but they're hardly the deadliest, even in terms of street level.   And having a higher kill count doesn't mean jack, especially considering they've had dozens of more appearances.
 
 
@nightwing91 said:
"Marauders "

Why? 
 
@texasdeathmatch
said:
"BA BUMP, this is a fantastic thread. THINK, YOU FOOLS. Stop going the easy route and simply picking your favorite character. This shits infinitely more exciting to think about "
LMAO! You're on a roll today.   "
An angry, disdainful roll.
 
@cattlebattle said:
" the Thunderbolts--The Marauders greatest feat was killing a race of unarmed non powerful mutants, then ganging up on the X-Men, The Thunderbolts are comprised of some the most dangerous villians in Marvel, who, have probably killed a lot more people "

How are the Thunderbolts going to resist Vertigo's puking inducing powers?
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#12  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

@texasdeathmatch:
Vertigo was definitely the wildcard, but we've seen characters capable of fighting their way through it.

Keep the hate roll going.  At this rate, you'll be banned here and forced to spend all your time at the Ledger :D

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#13  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@k4tzm4n said:
"

@texasdeathmatch:
Vertigo was definitely the wildcard, but we've seen characters capable of fighting their way through it.

Keep the hate roll going.  At this rate, you'll be banned here and forced to spend all your time at the Ledger :D

"
I'm cool with that. I'm surrounded by children on this forum. I hope these mods realize they're regulating a bunch of 12 year olds who apparently don't go to school and just sit on this site everyday.
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#14  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@texasdeathmatch said:
" @k4tzm4n said:
"

@texasdeathmatch:
Vertigo was definitely the wildcard, but we've seen characters capable of fighting their way through it.

Keep the hate roll going.  At this rate, you'll be banned here and forced to spend all your time at the Ledger :D

"
I'm cool with that. I'm surrounded by children on this forum. I hope these mods realize they're regulating a bunch of 12 year olds who apparently don't go to school and just sit on this site everyday. "


"lmfao" doesn't give that post the credit it deserves. 
 
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#15  Edited By (((Prodigy)))

I think I'm going to give a very small edge to the Marauders. They just seem to have more heavy hitters than the Bolts do. Venom, of course, is a good heavy hitter, but I can see him getting taken out by Arclight very quickly. And there are some members of the Bolts who rarely get good showing in any fight (namely Headsman, Swordsman, and Grizzly). The Marauders, on the other hand, have Sabretooth (solid high-tier street leveler), Vertigo (good mass-incapacitation power), Blockbuster (by far the strongest player on the field) and several other threats.  

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#16  Edited By _Courage_

As much as I don't want to go against my boy Bullseye and Venom, I think the Marauders would win. Blockbuster could take several enemies at once, Sabretooth would be tough to eliminate, and the rest of the team could hold their own somewhat. And like Prodigy stated, Arclight has a sufficient means to deal with Venom.

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#17  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

I think Blockbuster is being slighty overrated.  Sure, he's a good brawler, but Cyc KO'd him with a regular level optic blast in the Mutant Massacre.
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#18  Edited By (((Prodigy)))
@k4tzm4n said:
" I think Blockbuster is being slighty overrated.  Sure, he's a good brawler, but Cyc KO'd him with a regular level optic blast in the Mutant Massacre. "
I seem to recall he traded a couple of blows with Thor in the Mutant Massacre too.
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#19  Edited By Ferro Vida

This is a really good match. A case could be made for either side. Kudos, K4tz

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#20  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@Ferro Vida said:
" This is a really good match. A case could be made for either side. Kudos, K4tz "
Not nearly as good as my thread though :P
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#21  Edited By Ferro Vida
@texasdeathmatch: Which one is your thread?
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#23  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

@Ferro Vida:
He lies!  It's not even close to the quality of Gambit VS Galactus.

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@(((Prodigy))) said:
" @k4tzm4n said:
" I think Blockbuster is being slighty overrated.  Sure, he's a good brawler, but Cyc KO'd him with a regular level optic blast in the Mutant Massacre. "
I seem to recall he traded a couple of blows with Thor in the Mutant Massacre too. "

Yes and when Thor started trading back Blockbuster died. :P
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I'll back the Marauders here. Honestly, I think they've got superior firepower (Gambit, Harpoon, Riptide & Scalphunter) over the Normbolts. They've also got enough muscle between Blockbuster & Arclight to handle Venom. The Normbolts have an advantage with Goblin's glider but between the four I mentioned they should be able to take him off it and negate that advantage. 
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#26  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Jake Fury:
I agree when it comes to power/strength, Marauders have it. However, I'd say the majority of Thunderbolts (Norman, Venom, Bullseye) have proven to be far more effective in combat.
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@k4tzm4n:
That's true, they're certainly well above the Marauders in overall status in the Marvel U.  
 
Fine, I'm a Marauder fanboy and I'm biased towards them. Stop beating it out of me! :-(
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#28  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Jake Fury:
I am too, which is why I made it.  I think this can go either way.
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@k4tzm4n:
It definitely can.  
 
*sigh* If only the Marauders had Prism and it'd be a curbstomp... 
 

 
 
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#30  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Jake Fury:
LOL major no to prism!
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#31  Edited By (((Prodigy)))

Hasn't Prism supposedly died like half a dozen times now? 
lol
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#32  Edited By nicknicholby

yeah, prism has a very fragile body.  jean grey smashed him against a wall with her TK. 
 
I say the mauraders win.  scalphunter is almost a good a shot as bullseye.  i don't think any of them can hurt blockbuster.  arclight is a very good long distance asset.  i'm pretty sure sabretooth could take venom and the others could easily be distracted by vertigo and easily picked off by riptide and harpoon and gambit.

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#33  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@nicknicholby: 
-Scalphunter is a good shot, but nowhere along the lines of Bullseye. He couldn't even tag Gambit when unleashing with two assault rifles. 
-Blockbuster can be hurt by a lot of them.  Cyclops KO'd him with a regular level optic blast. 
 -At a distance Arclight won't be that powerful, as she tends to send individual shockwaves.  Her power really makes for best use in an indoor environment or unstable surfaces (such as a roof) 
-Sabretooth cannot take Venom.  Venom is virtually immune to the physical damage Sabretooth can inflict.  In order for Sabretooth to beat Venom, Venom will literally have to not fight back and just let him attack. 
-Vertigo certainly is a factor, but all of her displays of power have been within moderate proximity (20 feet or so).  This means she can be taken out by the likes of Bullseye, Scourge, or even Green Goblin, especially since she has standard level durability. 

 
@(((Prodigy))):

All of the Marauders have died and been cloned numerous times by Sinister.  It makes for better jobbing when you know the character can come back ;) 
 
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#34  Edited By czarny_samael666

I belive that T-Bolts can win it mainly thanks to GG and Venom. Grizly > Blockbuster IMO. I also belive that Bullseye will be a bigger threat than Scalphunter, even if Scalp has better equipment.

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#35  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

ANCIENT BUMP!

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Normbolts.

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#37  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

Why?