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#51 Posted by Marshall_Long (2264 posts) - - Show Bio

Whats up with all this Kirby solos BS...If that pink cotton ball tries to absorbing someone, Cole Ionic drains him or Sora goes into him Anti-Sora form and speed blitzes him...

Even if that happens nobody on playstation has an answer for Sonic, Sora is the only threat but he'll have his hands full with Kirby.

#52 Posted by InFamous_Wolf (1002 posts) - - Show Bio

@deathhero61: It drains the life force of enemies.....So it works on anybody but characters like Nix cannot be killed with it because they are protected by plot.

#53 Posted by DeathHero61 (7004 posts) - - Show Bio

@infamous_wolf: Prove to me that it can instantly kill large enemies and powerful enemies, and cole may possibly solo.

#54 Posted by InFamous_Wolf (1002 posts) - - Show Bio

@infamous_wolf said:

Whats up with all this Kirby solos BS...If that pink cotton ball tries to absorbing someone, Cole Ionic drains him or Sora goes into him Anti-Sora form and speed blitzes him...

Even if that happens nobody on playstation has an answer for Sonic, Sora is the only threat but he'll have his hands full with Kirby.

Well, Cole can handle Kirby and Sora can go up against Sonic. Ratchet will limit Sonic's speed by placing highly explosive homing mines on the ground.

#55 Posted by InFamous_Wolf (1002 posts) - - Show Bio

@infamous_wolf: Prove to me that it can instantly kill large enemies and powerful enemies, and Cole may possibly solo.

Sadly,I can not. As I said previously they are protected by plot.The game would kinda suck if you could one attack kill everything. Realistically it would work on anything with a life force. Anyway the main reason I mentioned Ionic drain was to take out Kirby.

#56 Edited by Marshall_Long (2264 posts) - - Show Bio

@infamous_wolf: Nobody on the Playstation side has an answer to Super Sonic not even Sora, the other Nintendo guys won't even have to fight.

#57 Posted by DeathHero61 (7004 posts) - - Show Bio

@infamous_wolf: Nobody on the Playstation side has an answer to Super Sonic not even Sora, the other Nintendo guys won't even have to fight.

Super Sonic is constantly shown to actually get hurt or tired by those with enough power. Dark Gaia, Time Eater, Solaris etc. Sora is easily on their level so that applies to him as well.

#58 Edited by InFamous_Wolf (1002 posts) - - Show Bio

@infamous_wolf: Nobody on the Playstation side has an answer to Super Sonic not even Sora, the other Nintendo guys won't even have to fight.

Same thing applies. Anti-Sora and Rachet's homing mines can deal with Super Sonic. Actually, what am I saying these Characters are in their STRONGEST Form. Cole with The Beast power creates a vacuum in his hand and crushes Super Sonic.

#59 Posted by SHARKBEARAGATOR (1667 posts) - - Show Bio

@deathhero61: Solaris is a universe buster he was literally consuming dimensions, Time Eater was destroying Space/Time, Dark Gaia's confrontation with Light Gaia was said to be able to destroy the world. Sora is strong but I don't think that strong.

#60 Posted by KingAres109 (1293 posts) - - Show Bio

Its funny that Nintendo have the most powerful characters..But Xbox is easily the best system.Lol..And dont the Fabel hero have that time stopping ability?

#61 Posted by InFamous_Wolf (1002 posts) - - Show Bio

Its funny that Nintendo have the most powerful characters..But Xbox is easily the best system.Lol..And dont the Fabel hero have that time stopping ability?

Fixed

#62 Posted by SHARKBEARAGATOR (1667 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingares109: Lots of these characters have time stopping abilities. Like Sora, Sonic (Chaos Control), Mario has a time stopping power up etc.

#63 Edited by Cor_Tsar (1255 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1: Playstation has exactly one character who can do anything, and that's Cole Mcgrath. Xbox has zero characters, and Nintendo has kirby, Pikachu, Sonic, and Donkey Kong who utterly stomps Kratos in pure strength. The keyblade is not a basic power, it's his weapon, before he had that weapon, he was just a normal boy with barely any skill. The keyblade essentially granted Sora all of his powers and abilities. Winner, Nintendo.

Round 2: Honestly don't know too much about the XBOX characters, and only so much of the playstation one's. I do know Sora is extremely strong and fast, with many hax abilities, same with Cole. Kratos could be a threat, but seeing as he's the main strong man, DK should go up against him and i just don't see how it doesn't end in a 1 shot by DK. People under-estimate a Gorilla who can knock a moon easily out of orbit, and then reenter the earth's atmosphere like it aint nothing.

Samus by herself can take out every other gunman and soldier type character. Faster, Stronger, more durable, more agile, and most importantly she has the most vicious guns out of any character here, Ratchet has a pretty large array of weapons himself, but while it's large, it's not as vicious as Samus's stronger weapons meant to cause a large apparent distortion in space and time. I'm pretty sure both of these two can create a sorta black hole, and both can create essentially a sun. Too bad ratchet just can't keep up. And now that i'm thinking of guns, where's Jak? He'd be a tide changer for sure.

Link should might be able to keep up with Sora, but in every incarnation, Link's never shown the pure speed that Sora has, still Link's been around much longer, and while Sora has Hax, Link has 25+ years of weapons and experience to call on. Along with magic that can turn him into a literal fairy, so yea, there's that.

Don't know too much about Cole, but i'm sure Mario and Kirby could double team him, while Solid Snake get's tossed aside by the extreme versatility and power of his opponents. I'm pretty sure Kirby and Mario together can take down just about every foe with almost all powerups.

Pikachu can take out every human leveled character with ease and from a distance. And Sonic can either help take down Cole or Sora, the only two who actually matter on the PS side at this point.

Winner; Nintendo

Round 3: Idk, Link and Mario have both had wishing items in their games. Samus's strongest weapon is the Hyper beam, which we have no quantifiable feats for, except knowing that none of Samus's other weapons could even dent Mother Brain for real, and then the hyper beam came and just stomped all over her. Sonic has Chaos Emeralds, but just about everything dwindles in front of the two wishing items both Link and mario have

Unless Playstation or Xbox has a character that could alter everything with a thought, then Nintendo clearly stomps this round.

Winner Nintendo.

Nintendo always wins, that's why they've been here for so long only focusing on VG's. What other company can say that, none, and you know why? Because unlike Nintendo, they lost.

#64 Posted by DeathHero61 (7004 posts) - - Show Bio

@deathhero61: Solaris is a universe buster he was literally consuming dimensions, Time Eater was destroying Space/Time, Dark Gaia's confrontation with Light Gaia was said to be able to destroy the world. Sora is strong but I don't think that strong.

Super sonic also fought a Nega mother wisp, and im positive sora can take her out. Sora saved the multi-verse on several occasions......(allot of his toughest foes being mini reality warpers and demi-gods.) Super sonic beated Dark Gaia regularly, He beated time eater with the help of his equal.(and defeated him through regular means, Time eater only shoot energy beams at him and a artificial "sun" at him. He beated solaris by hitting weakpoints and by getting shadow's and silver's help...... plus him beating solaris never happened remember? time was reset. Plus Sora can easily use gravity magic to stop anyone on the nintendo team from moving at the start of the battle then have cole rain a ionic vortex or ionic storm on them, or just restrain them with his fully upgraded shock bombs(as soon as they explode targets get instantly restrained by electricity.)

And super sonic still runs on stamina. His Big battle with gaia proves this. Sora can dodge any light speed blitzing, mario can potentially do the same, and cole could probably just keep him self engulfed in lighting to make it impossible to touch him. Ratchet uses his arsenal to take out the entire team except possibly kirby since he can just absorb everything.......

This is a good combat showcase but just skip to 6:40-7:20

#65 Posted by Cor_Tsar (1255 posts) - - Show Bio

@sharkbearagator said:

@deathhero61: Solaris is a universe buster he was literally consuming dimensions, Time Eater was destroying Space/Time, Dark Gaia's confrontation with Light Gaia was said to be able to destroy the world. Sora is strong but I don't think that strong.

Super sonic also fought a Nega mother wisp, and im positive sora can take her out. Sora saved the multi-verse on several occasions......(allot of his toughest foes being mini reality warpers and demi-gods.) Super sonic beated Dark Gaia regularly, He beated time eater with the help of his equal.(and defeated him through regular means, Time eater only shoot energy beams at him and a artificial "sun" at him. He beated solaris by hitting weakpoints and by getting shadow's and silver's help...... plus him beating solaris never happened remember? time was reset. Plus Sora can easily use gravity magic to stop anyone on the nintendo team from moving at the start of the battle then have cole rain a ionic vortex or ionic storm on them, or just restrain them with his fully upgraded shock bombs(as soon as they explode targets get instantly restrained by electricity.)

And super sonic still runs on stamina. His Big battle with gaia proves this. Sora can dodge any light speed blitzing, mario can potentially do the same, and cole could probably just keep him self engulfed in lighting to make it impossible to touch him. Ratchet uses his arsenal to take out the entire team except possibly kirby since he can just absorb everything.......

This is a good combat showcase but just skip to 6:40-7:20

Why are you ignoring Samus? you say use gravity on the team, but Samus has no weakness to the effects of Gravity, and would honestly put up a good fight against Sora.

Even so, Link is all that's needed to beat Sora, even though not physically at Sora's level, all of Sora's hax abilities have a counter by Link, and while he's not as fast as Sora, he's should be around the same strength level and durability level. this isn't considering the AoE magic that Link has, compared to Sora's more singular type of magical attacks.

Also, ratchet aint beating samus, she's better than him in just about everything. Except maybe versatility.

As i said, don't know much about Cole, but Mario and Kirby as a team should easily beat him using their multiple power ups and base abilities. Mario and Kirby together are almost an unbeatable team. Link with powerful magic and knowledge on all their opponents(using navi, Midna, etc etc. hey technically they're items.) and Samus with her insane physical attributes as well as superior tech to everyone here, are almost an unbeatable team. Pikachu and DK, are a beatable team, but a gorilla and a Mouse are always cool to just look at.

#66 Posted by DeathHero61 (7004 posts) - - Show Bio

@cor_tsar said:

@deathhero61 said:

@sharkbearagator said:

@deathhero61: Solaris is a universe buster he was literally consuming dimensions, Time Eater was destroying Space/Time, Dark Gaia's confrontation with Light Gaia was said to be able to destroy the world. Sora is strong but I don't think that strong.

Super sonic also fought a Nega mother wisp, and im positive sora can take her out. Sora saved the multi-verse on several occasions......(allot of his toughest foes being mini reality warpers and demi-gods.) Super sonic beated Dark Gaia regularly, He beated time eater with the help of his equal.(and defeated him through regular means, Time eater only shoot energy beams at him and a artificial "sun" at him. He beated solaris by hitting weakpoints and by getting shadow's and silver's help...... plus him beating solaris never happened remember? time was reset. Plus Sora can easily use gravity magic to stop anyone on the nintendo team from moving at the start of the battle then have cole rain a ionic vortex or ionic storm on them, or just restrain them with his fully upgraded shock bombs(as soon as they explode targets get instantly restrained by electricity.)

And super sonic still runs on stamina. His Big battle with gaia proves this. Sora can dodge any light speed blitzing, mario can potentially do the same, and cole could probably just keep him self engulfed in lighting to make it impossible to touch him. Ratchet uses his arsenal to take out the entire team except possibly kirby since he can just absorb everything.......

This is a good combat showcase but just skip to 6:40-7:20

Why are you ignoring Samus? you say use gravity on the team, but Samus has no weakness to the effects of Gravity, and would honestly put up a good fight against Sora.

Even so, Link is all that's needed to beat Sora, even though not physically at Sora's level, all of Sora's hax abilities have a counter by Link, and while he's not as fast as Sora, he's should be around the same strength level and durability level. this isn't considering the AoE magic that Link has, compared to Sora's more singular type of magical attacks.

Also, ratchet aint beating samus, she's better than him in just about everything. Except maybe versatility.

As i said, don't know much about Cole, but Mario and Kirby as a team should easily beat him using their multiple power ups and base abilities. Mario and Kirby together are almost an unbeatable team. Link with powerful magic and knowledge on all their opponents(using navi, Midna, etc etc. hey technically they're items.) and Samus with her insane physical attributes as well as superior tech to everyone here, are almost an unbeatable team. Pikachu and DK, are a beatable team, but a gorilla and a Mouse are always cool to just look at.

Samus's arsenal honestly does not compare to ratchet's...... Plus whats her greatest feat in gravity? because sora can use gravity to the scale where his opponents are flattened......

Link's arsenal of magic is useless in comparison to sora, in physicals link is far inferior even in durability, his reaction time isn't good enough to handle sora who is not only massively hypersonic(he is arguably FTL) he can use two keyblades and overpower him with his skill in swordsmenship.

Just to add insult to injury towards link, he fought this giant monster as a lion, which not only decreased his speed, but basically most of his stats. realistically.

More combat showcases.

And finally.

Ratchet's arsenal will destroy samus, don't make me fetch videos.

You know nothing about cole...... dude, they get stomped. and how are those guys dealing with kratos as well? along with the minor but decent distraction of nathan drake and sackboy and solid snake?

#67 Posted by reikai (4556 posts) - - Show Bio

Universals? Fei and the Xenogears would like to have words.

Yes I know it's gotten ridiculous. That's what happens when you have Console Wars.

#68 Posted by Dratini1331 (7040 posts) - - Show Bio

R1: Sonic Solos, Kirby Solos

R2: Sonic still solos

R3: Sonic still solos

#69 Posted by Cor_Tsar (1255 posts) - - Show Bio

Samus's arsenal honestly does not compare to ratchet's...... Plus whats her greatest feat in gravity? because sora can use gravity to the scale where his opponents are flattened......

Link's arsenal of magic is useless in comparison to sora, in physicals link is far inferior even in durability, his reaction time isn't good enough to handle sora who is not only massively hypersonic(he is arguably FTL) he can use two keyblades and overpower him with his skill in swordsmenship.

Just to add insult to injury towards link, he fought this giant monster as a lion, which not only decreased his speed, but basically most of his stats. realistically.

More combat showcases.

And finally.

Ratchet's arsenal will destroy samus, don't make me fetch videos.

You know nothing about cole...... dude, they get stomped. and how are those guys dealing with kratos as well? along with the minor but decent distraction of nathan drake and sackboy and solid snake?

Samus's arsenal doesn't compare to Ratchet's? Samus can do almost everything ratchet can do, except for the silly stupid things like chicken guns and dance guns. So while he can make a black hole, Samus can make a black hole. Idk if he can create a mini sun, but Samus can create a mini sun. I'm also not sure if ratchet can create a large distortion in space and time, but Samus can. So while he may have more versatility, it's in dumb things, all of Samus's guns are meant to be vicious. Also, Samus easily physically overpowers ratchet, so not only does he have the inferior weaponry(if more versatile), he's just plain outmatched by Samus.

Also her Gravity suit null's the effects of gravity in general, the void of space doesn't effect her, nor does moving through magma and freezing cold water. Gravity has no effect on her with her Gravity suit, that's what it's meant to do.

Also, Sora is not FTL, just because he's reacting to lasers doesn't make him ftl. Also, Link has essentially an automatic counter in his arsenal, so outmatching him in skill is unlikely, his reaction is damn near instantaneous for most of his enemies.. Link has the ability to slow time for an infinite amount of time, he can create earthquakes, thunderstorms, multiple explosions, can be invincible(in like 3 different ways), control the winds, control seasons, turn invisible, teleport. I'm pretty as a composite character, he has control of almost all elements of the world, time, nature, space, almost all of it. Not too mention as a composite character he has slight toon force.

Kratos aint nothing, DK one shots him. Donkey Kong is stronger, feat wise, than any other character in the whole GoW universe, except for maybe Atlas. Donkey Kong is experienced at closing distance with his enemies and socking them to death, it's his thing. he can get close to his enemy, and barely any one can take his mighty moon shifting strength. He has the ability to close the distance and beat Kratos to death. He's never shown the durability to survive an ass whooping by DK, considering he was beat down by Hercules, so he's definitely gonna get beaten by DK.

ND, SS, & SB , especially ND and SS, can easily be beaten by Pikachu alone. Agility, Quick attack, Thunderbolt, death. they won't be able to hit Pikachu who's using both quick attack and agility, and the thunderbolt is enough to kill peak humans, unless you have any feats of them surviving anything similar.

#70 Posted by DeathHero61 (7004 posts) - - Show Bio

R1: Sonic Solos, Kirby Solos

R2: Sonic still solos

R3: Sonic still solos

Don't see how

Still don't see how

Really don't see how

#71 Posted by Dratini1331 (7040 posts) - - Show Bio

@deathhero61: You don't see how a MFTL character solos this line up?

#72 Posted by ShadoVvlite (1205 posts) - - Show Bio

@deathhero61: If we're using the most powerful versions Archie Hyper Sonic solos.

#73 Edited by DeathHero61 (7004 posts) - - Show Bio

@cor_tsar:

Samus's arsenal doesn't compare to Ratchet's? Samus can do almost everything ratchet can do, except for the silly stupid things like chicken guns and dance guns. So while he can make a black hole, Samus can make a black hole. Idk if he can create a mini sun, but Samus can create a mini sun. I'm also not sure if ratchet can create a large distortion in space and time, but Samus can. So while he may have more versatility, it's in dumb things, all of Samus's guns are meant to be vicious. Also, Samus easily physically overpowers ratchet, so not only does he have the inferior weaponry(if more versatile), he's just plain outmatched by Samus.

Also her Gravity suit null's the effects of gravity in general, the void of space doesn't effect her, nor does moving through magma and freezing cold water. Gravity has no effect on her with her Gravity suit, that's what it's meant to do.

Also, Sora is not FTL, just because he's reacting to lasers doesn't make him ftl. Also, Link has essentially an automatic counter in his arsenal, so outmatching him in skill is unlikely, his reaction is damn near instantaneous for most of his enemies.. Link has the ability to slow time for an infinite amount of time, he can create earthquakes, thunderstorms, multiple explosions, can be invincible(in like 3 different ways), control the winds, control seasons, turn invisible, teleport. I'm pretty as a composite character, he has control of almost all elements of the world, time, nature, space, almost all of it. Not too mention as a composite character he has slight toon force.

Kratos aint nothing, DK one shots him. Donkey Kong is stronger, feat wise, than any other character in the whole GoW universe, except for maybe Atlas. Donkey Kong is experienced at closing distance with his enemies and socking them to death, it's his thing. he can get close to his enemy, and barely any one can take his mighty moon shifting strength. He has the ability to close the distance and beat Kratos to death. He's never shown the durability to survive an ass whooping by DK, considering he was beat down by Hercules, so he's definitely gonna get beaten by DK.

ND, SS, & SB , especially ND and SS, can easily be beaten by Pikachu alone. Agility, Quick attack, Thunderbolt, death. they won't be able to hit Pikachu who's using both quick attack and agility, and the thunderbolt is enough to kill peak humans, unless you have any feats of them surviving anything similar.

Honestly i looked through youtube and i realized it will take forever to show you all the weapon feats for ratchet,(im only going to put a few videos) so im going to start off by asking some quick basic questions, has samus shown any feats of her suit being resistant to lava? or resistant to liquid nitrogen? how durable is her suit? Can she tank Rapid fire from a fully upgraded RYNO?(which has multiple machine guns, shotguns and rocket launchers firing at once, this weapon is powerful enough to take out a boss in a few seconds, the second version out of six managing to take out a final boss in potentially 9 seconds, take note the successors to the ryno v2 are far more powerful.)

And also even if samus could overpower ratchet, if ratchet wanted to he could use his visibomb gun which was basically a rocket launcher that allows to to guide a missile from even the farthest distances, its stated to allow you to shoot a missile all over a world without even having to traverse it.(it does three times the damage than a devastator so it plows through its targets.) Plus i doubt it, Ratchet has all kinds of powerful armors that shrugs off damage and even has a armor that is made of adamantine.(this armor is weaker than some of his other armors, which says allot.)

I would take the time showing off his entire set of weapons but im kind of lazy so just look at the wikia, it gives accurate information.

The Dk moon punching feat cannot be taken seriously at all. I'll start by saying this:

The moon is far bigger than a country, just the moon landing on the volcano would had sunk the entire island, along with the fact that if the moon crashed into the earth, the planet would probably be split apart due to the amount of earthquakes it would cause in the even that did happen. And if that feat is supposed to make sense then look at this:

Diddy smacked it down with his forehead using his firework strapped bookbag..... that means there could not have been enough force for the moon to be knocked down. Plus when both diddy and donkey were launched are you telling me that they were launched at mach speeds by a volcano?

Hell no. plus if he can bust moons, then that would mean that all the enemies dk faced has continent+ level durability, and i refuse to believe that tiki masks, and animals have that kind of durability when things much weaker can potentially harm them.

Kratos has legit physical feats such as casually tossing giants. Kratos is a god of combat, if he wanted to he could give anyone on the nintendo team trouble easily. Even link of all people.(who again won't stand a chance against sora.) His combat speed is equalivant if not higher than DK's and is such a better combatant then he is. I'll give DK props in close combat but besides that, he ain't winning against kratos let alone anyone on the PS team......

the automatic laser fire feat is not the only reason why i say hes arguably FTL but take note, sora is not even aim-dodging in order to block these attacks. Sora can stop time, can manipulate powers on a higher scale than link ever showed, is too fast for link especially considering he can move fast enough to seem like he is warping, he is such a better combatant especially in swordplay than link will ever be. In physical stats link is outclasses in every category, and so many other advantages. So even if he is not light speed, you have suggested nothing that can prove to me that link stands a shred of a chance against sora let alone other final fantasy characters. Also 90 percent of link's powers sora has but far better. the only power sora doesn't have is season changing...... and infinite time stopping.

Basically most of his feats from KH2. as you can see he is shown to be a far better combatant then link in his toughest adventure.....

Do you have any reaction time feats for video game pikachu? because the pokepark series (which is the only thing that shows any real feats for pikachu besides the main rpg games.) isn't that impressive. I really don't see what's stopping nathan from throwing grenades and using machine gun fire to kill pikachu, or snake using homing missiles to distract pikachu from dodging the bullets or explosions. Since sackboy has no real fighting feats unlike everyone else to work with, we can only go based off his playstation all stars. (there is no use in saying blah blah blah not canon, little big planet is a avatar universe, it has no real plot structure unlike all the other psn exclusives, and before you try applying that to nintendo characters, each character on the nintendo team has a plot structure within their respective universes.)

#74 Posted by DeathHero61 (7004 posts) - - Show Bio

@deathhero61: You don't see how a MFTL character solos this line up?

You mean archie sonic. game sonic is nowhere near light speed in base. he is massively hypersonic.

#75 Posted by XLR87T3 (2996 posts) - - Show Bio

Note: If a certain series is multiplat, but most of the games have been exclusive to a certain platform or were timed exclusive or have exclusive content, I will count it for that respective platform

Here we go:

Nintendo : Mario, Link, Kirby, Pikachu (lv 60), Samus, Donkey Kong, and Sonic

PlayStation: Kratos, Ratchet, Solid Snake, Cole McGrath,Sackboy, Sora, and Nathan Drake

Xbox: Master Chief, Commander Shepard, Marcus Fenix, KOTOR Knight, Coach (from Left 4 Dead), Nick Ramos (Dead Rising 3) , and Hero (Fable)

Round 1: Hyrule (All teams are without powerups, items. Native powers {Sonic's speed, Pikachu's lightning are powers, NOT items} count and can be used for this battle. No swords, guns, or mutating mushrooms)

Round 2: Mount Olympus (All teams have access to all their weapons, powerups, items except for the most powerful, like Starman for Mario, Chaos Emeralds for Sonic, Triforce for Link, etc)

Round 3: On Shepard's ship (All teams have their strongest powerups, and ALL their powerups)

Who wins and why?

The Xbox team is missing a very important key character, and the other consoles fear this one. In their tongue, he is Dovahkiin...DRAGONBORN!

#76 Posted by Dratini1331 (7040 posts) - - Show Bio

@deathhero61: GAme sonic actually isn't even that fast. I thought this was all feats, not only games, no? Game logic is horrid to debate with...

#77 Posted by DeathHero61 (7004 posts) - - Show Bio

@deathhero61: GAme sonic actually isn't even that fast. I thought this was all feats, not only games, no? Game logic is horrid to debate with...

Meh.

#78 Posted by reikai (4556 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlr87t3: You know you can play Skyrim on PS3 as well as PC. So XBOX can't lay claim to a shared title.

#79 Edited by GraniteSoldier (8589 posts) - - Show Bio

If they had Raziel, Playstation would sweep. Unfortunately it won't let me post a picture of him? That's odd.

#80 Posted by JediXMan (31249 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlr87t3:

... Skyrim isn't Xbox exclusive...

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#81 Posted by Dragonborn_CT (23480 posts) - - Show Bio

#82 Edited by ForeverEvil (4788 posts) - - Show Bio

xbox

#83 Posted by Carter_esque (6447 posts) - - Show Bio

Playstation god-stomps

#84 Posted by The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk (10703 posts) - - Show Bio

@dratini1331: Lol, if this was Archie Sonic he'd solo everyone on every team...at the same time. XD

#85 Edited by XLR87T3 (2996 posts) - - Show Bio

@reikai said:

@xlr87t3: You know you can play Skyrim on PS3 as well as PC. So XBOX can't lay claim to a shared title.

@jedixman said:

@xlr87t3:

... Skyrim isn't Xbox exclusive...

Many of the games on the character list has been featured on PC as well a console. And Skyrim isn't the only one with a shared title. Dead Rising series and Mass Effect series both have games on Playstation consoles as well as Xbox consoles. Elder Scrolls is no different, because it's Xbox first, Playstation second. Even Sonic is in the Nintendo section, despite the fact that Nintendo has a PARTNERSHIP with SEGA aka only *some* rights to them and does not completely own them, as many would like to believe. Which means that the Nintendo team in the OP really should be the Nintendo/SEGA list of characters. You two are just angry dragons that are afraid of the power that Dovahkiin possesses. *sigh* Sky above, voice within...

#86 Posted by InFamous_Wolf (1002 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

#87 Edited by ShadoVvlite (1205 posts) - - Show Bio

What's stopping Link with full Triforce?

#88 Posted by Dratini1331 (7040 posts) - - Show Bio
#89 Edited by reikai (4556 posts) - - Show Bio

@shadovvlite: He doesn't have Navi to tell'im what to do, cause Link is so brainless he can't do anything right without someone pointing out the obvious to him. Also, the time it takes for Link to do anything, Snake will have already put a bullet in his head.

#90 Edited by ShadoVvlite (1205 posts) - - Show Bio

@reikai: What does that have to do with anything? That's your opinion and I ask, what's going to stop Link when he has all three pieces of the Triforce?

#91 Edited by reikai (4556 posts) - - Show Bio

@shadovvlite:

You trying to say his own ineptitude isn't a factor? Also, what has he personally, actually done with them? Beyond fulfill the one pre-programmed wish to save Hyrule again, and again, and again. Gamewise the Tri-Force is pretty damned useless. And it doesn't make him invincible. And it doesn't ever stop Ganon from coming back. And you still gotta figure what's faster; Link holding an object over his head with both hands to utter a sentence, or Solid Snake with a gun in his hand that has a laser sight?

#92 Edited by ShadoVvlite (1205 posts) - - Show Bio

@reikai: His own ineptitude? He doesn't make decisions, the player does. Navi is mainly for the player. Yes, gamewise, because it's to make the game interesting. If the Creator made the Triforce to be omnipotent and the lore, too, I'm pretty sure it is.

Now you're thinking the Triforce is his only item.... Link has items that can give him infinite mana, invulnerability, duplication, invisibility, intangible, and much more.

#93 Edited by alternative_backup (660 posts) - - Show Bio

Nintendo.

#94 Posted by Cjdavis103 (9575 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlr87t3:

The dragon born is not an Xbox character as he is alos on PC and PS

#95 Edited by Beezlebub (1864 posts) - - Show Bio

Nintendo easy.

#96 Posted by Wardemon32 (4399 posts) - - Show Bio

This guy chose like the shittiest Playstation roster

Playstation

Good & Evil Cole McGrath, Kratos, Nariko, Emmet Graves, Dante, Delsin

#97 Posted by Beezlebub (1864 posts) - - Show Bio

Pikachu fries everybody. XD

#98 Posted by XLR87T3 (2996 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlr87t3:

The dragon born is not an Xbox character as he is alos on PC and PS

It's almost like you didn't even read any of my posts in this thread! Most Xbox games have PC versions, as well as Metal Gear Solid, Pokemon, Super Mario Brothers, and Sonic the Hedgehog. The Elder Scrolls series are no different than the other series that I listed. Based off of the OP, they meet the conditions necessary for an inclusion in the Xbox list of characters, as they are mostly for the Xbox:

Note: If a certain series is multiplat, but most of the games have been exclusive to a certain platform or were timed exclusive or have exclusive content, I will count it for that respective platform

#99 Posted by Cor_Tsar (1255 posts) - - Show Bio

@cor_tsar:

Honestly i looked through youtube and i realized it will take forever to show you all the weapon feats for ratchet,(im only going to put a few videos) so im going to start off by asking some quick basic questions, has samus shown any feats of her suit being resistant to lava? or resistant to liquid nitrogen? how durable is her suit? Can she tank Rapid fire from a fully upgraded RYNO?(which has multiple machine guns, shotguns and rocket launchers firing at once, this weapon is powerful enough to take out a boss in a few seconds, the second version out of six managing to take out a final boss in potentially 9 seconds, take note the successors to the ryno v2 are far more powerful.)

And also even if samus could overpower ratchet, if ratchet wanted to he could use his visibomb gun which was basically a rocket launcher that allows to to guide a missile from even the farthest distances, its stated to allow you to shoot a missile all over a world without even having to traverse it.(it does three times the damage than a devastator so it plows through its targets.) Plus i doubt it, Ratchet has all kinds of powerful armors that shrugs off damage and even has a armor that is made of adamantine.(this armor is weaker than some of his other armors, which says allot.)

I would take the time showing off his entire set of weapons but im kind of lazy so just look at the wikia, it gives accurate information.

The Dk moon punching feat cannot be taken seriously at all. I'll start by saying this:

The moon is far bigger than a country, just the moon landing on the volcano would had sunk the entire island, along with the fact that if the moon crashed into the earth, the planet would probably be split apart due to the amount of earthquakes it would cause in the even that did happen. And if that feat is supposed to make sense then look at this:

Diddy smacked it down with his forehead using his firework strapped bookbag..... that means there could not have been enough force for the moon to be knocked down. Plus when both diddy and donkey were launched are you telling me that they were launched at mach speeds by a volcano?

Hell no. plus if he can bust moons, then that would mean that all the enemies dk faced has continent+ level durability, and i refuse to believe that tiki masks, and animals have that kind of durability when things much weaker can potentially harm them.

Kratos has legit physical feats such as casually tossing giants. Kratos is a god of combat, if he wanted to he could give anyone on the nintendo team trouble easily. Even link of all people.(who again won't stand a chance against sora.) His combat speed is equalivant if not higher than DK's and is such a better combatant then he is. I'll give DK props in close combat but besides that, he ain't winning against kratos let alone anyone on the PS team......

the automatic laser fire feat is not the only reason why i say hes arguably FTL but take note, sora is not even aim-dodging in order to block these attacks. Sora can stop time, can manipulate powers on a higher scale than link ever showed, is too fast for link especially considering he can move fast enough to seem like he is warping, he is such a better combatant especially in swordplay than link will ever be. In physical stats link is outclasses in every category, and so many other advantages. So even if he is not light speed, you have suggested nothing that can prove to me that link stands a shred of a chance against sora let alone other final fantasy characters. Also 90 percent of link's powers sora has but far better. the only power sora doesn't have is season changing...... and infinite time stopping.

Basically most of his feats from KH2. as you can see he is shown to be a far better combatant then link in his toughest adventure.....

Do you have any reaction time feats for video game pikachu? because the pokepark series (which is the only thing that shows any real feats for pikachu besides the main rpg games.) isn't that impressive. I really don't see what's stopping nathan from throwing grenades and using machine gun fire to kill pikachu, or snake using homing missiles to distract pikachu from dodging the bullets or explosions. Since sackboy has no real fighting feats unlike everyone else to work with, we can only go based off his playstation all stars. (there is no use in saying blah blah blah not canon, little big planet is a avatar universe, it has no real plot structure unlike all the other psn exclusives, and before you try applying that to nintendo characters, each character on the nintendo team has a plot structure within their respective universes.)

Can Samus walk through Lava? You don't know much about Samus do you? At max she casually walks through lava. Lava stopped hurting her because of her armor. And I don't even have to look for feats, just look up a Metroid game and one of the lava levels. Iyt's not like how MArio and Link fear lava, she HAS to walk through it to advance in most if not all of her games. MP H gave us a slight set of numbers to work with and calculate, and even one of her weakest weapons bust out terrawatts, which with how much she bust out, turns into country busting attacks. MP H is also a multiplayer game, so Samus is tanking the attacks of people on her level in that one. Samus fights people who bust out absolute zero. Rhyno aint nothing to country busting attacks. That's not even including all the calculations concerning her speed and the fact that as a child without armor she was already dropping off cliffs on a planet with a MUCH higher gravity level.

And also, what makes you think DK is serious in any way, shape, or form. It's a Nintendo game, therefore, it's gonna have toonforce. Donkey Kong just naturally resisted mind-control for no reason. Diddy Kong was able to shift a moon with his head. They have a level of toonforce, that's why Kratos has no chance against him. So you can say it's not serious, but neither is a gorilla punching mask out because the mask wanted to steal all the bananas of the land. Also explains why the island didn't bust from having a moon dumped on it, DKC R especially, has a sense of toon when concerning it's characters and even it's world. So Kratos aint doing much against a character with Toon strewngth and durability, cause the guy was also able to reenter the earth's atmosphere like it was nothing. Listen, you're using Ratchet, well he has Toony items, DK just has Tooney stats.

Sora never shown manipulation of power on a higher scale. He may have shown stronger magical attacks, but Link easily has a wider range with his magic, as well as more versatility. And Link has fought teleporters before. Link at base destroys monster infused stone like a joke, either with a sword or with an arrow. 100s and 100s of tons of force have hit him just judging by the size of his monsters on a daily base. Where as Sora fights city leveled reality warpers, Link fights a country reality warping dark magician with the power of the triforce in each incarnation. He even won a fight against someone using the full power of the triforce. as well as having the trident of power(PIS at it's fullest I aint gonna lie, but a feat nonetheless). Plus these guys are probably moralless considering people make their morals, what's to stop Link from going invincible, reversing time over and over again until he figures out Sora's movements and skill levels, then mercing him with perfect timing using light arrows, silver arrows, Magic that stops time as he uses it, and a blade that can cut through just about everything. You don't understand just how many games Link can call from, I can list dozens upon dozens of items, like 80-90, if not easily 100s. I haven't even played each Zelda game, and there's like 10 11 of them, each at least having a collection of 20 items, magic spells, and potions. And that's me considering the first ever Zelda game.

And that's kinda what helps Nintendo win this, for all their goofiness and maybe weakness at first glance compared to the PS characters, they have SOOOO much more experience. Yea Kratos fought a Titan, Link's been fighting giants for more years than I've been alive. Same with Samus, and even Pikachu. The only one without experience is DK, and he has goofy toonforce to make up for it.

#100 Posted by DeathHero61 (7004 posts) - - Show Bio

@cor_tsar said:

@deathhero61 said:

@cor_tsar:

Honestly i looked through youtube and i realized it will take forever to show you all the weapon feats for ratchet,(im only going to put a few videos) so im going to start off by asking some quick basic questions, has samus shown any feats of her suit being resistant to lava? or resistant to liquid nitrogen? how durable is her suit? Can she tank Rapid fire from a fully upgraded RYNO?(which has multiple machine guns, shotguns and rocket launchers firing at once, this weapon is powerful enough to take out a boss in a few seconds, the second version out of six managing to take out a final boss in potentially 9 seconds, take note the successors to the ryno v2 are far more powerful.)

And also even if samus could overpower ratchet, if ratchet wanted to he could use his visibomb gun which was basically a rocket launcher that allows to to guide a missile from even the farthest distances, its stated to allow you to shoot a missile all over a world without even having to traverse it.(it does three times the damage than a devastator so it plows through its targets.) Plus i doubt it, Ratchet has all kinds of powerful armors that shrugs off damage and even has a armor that is made of adamantine.(this armor is weaker than some of his other armors, which says allot.)

I would take the time showing off his entire set of weapons but im kind of lazy so just look at the wikia, it gives accurate information.

The Dk moon punching feat cannot be taken seriously at all. I'll start by saying this:

The moon is far bigger than a country, just the moon landing on the volcano would had sunk the entire island, along with the fact that if the moon crashed into the earth, the planet would probably be split apart due to the amount of earthquakes it would cause in the even that did happen. And if that feat is supposed to make sense then look at this:

Diddy smacked it down with his forehead using his firework strapped bookbag..... that means there could not have been enough force for the moon to be knocked down. Plus when both diddy and donkey were launched are you telling me that they were launched at mach speeds by a volcano?

Hell no. plus if he can bust moons, then that would mean that all the enemies dk faced has continent+ level durability, and i refuse to believe that tiki masks, and animals have that kind of durability when things much weaker can potentially harm them.

Kratos has legit physical feats such as casually tossing giants. Kratos is a god of combat, if he wanted to he could give anyone on the nintendo team trouble easily. Even link of all people.(who again won't stand a chance against sora.) His combat speed is equalivant if not higher than DK's and is such a better combatant then he is. I'll give DK props in close combat but besides that, he ain't winning against kratos let alone anyone on the PS team......

the automatic laser fire feat is not the only reason why i say hes arguably FTL but take note, sora is not even aim-dodging in order to block these attacks. Sora can stop time, can manipulate powers on a higher scale than link ever showed, is too fast for link especially considering he can move fast enough to seem like he is warping, he is such a better combatant especially in swordplay than link will ever be. In physical stats link is outclasses in every category, and so many other advantages. So even if he is not light speed, you have suggested nothing that can prove to me that link stands a shred of a chance against sora let alone other final fantasy characters. Also 90 percent of link's powers sora has but far better. the only power sora doesn't have is season changing...... and infinite time stopping.

Basically most of his feats from KH2. as you can see he is shown to be a far better combatant then link in his toughest adventure.....

Do you have any reaction time feats for video game pikachu? because the pokepark series (which is the only thing that shows any real feats for pikachu besides the main rpg games.) isn't that impressive. I really don't see what's stopping nathan from throwing grenades and using machine gun fire to kill pikachu, or snake using homing missiles to distract pikachu from dodging the bullets or explosions. Since sackboy has no real fighting feats unlike everyone else to work with, we can only go based off his playstation all stars. (there is no use in saying blah blah blah not canon, little big planet is a avatar universe, it has no real plot structure unlike all the other psn exclusives, and before you try applying that to nintendo characters, each character on the nintendo team has a plot structure within their respective universes.)

Can Samus walk through Lava? You don't know much about Samus do you? At max she casually walks through lava. Lava stopped hurting her because of her armor. And I don't even have to look for feats, just look up a Metroid game and one of the lava levels. Iyt's not like how MArio and Link fear lava, she HAS to walk through it to advance in most if not all of her games. MP H gave us a slight set of numbers to work with and calculate, and even one of her weakest weapons bust out terrawatts, which with how much she bust out, turns into country busting attacks. MP H is also a multiplayer game, so Samus is tanking the attacks of people on her level in that one. Samus fights people who bust out absolute zero. Rhyno aint nothing to country busting attacks. That's not even including all the calculations concerning her speed and the fact that as a child without armor she was already dropping off cliffs on a planet with a MUCH higher gravity level.

And also, what makes you think DK is serious in any way, shape, or form. It's a Nintendo game, therefore, it's gonna have toonforce. Donkey Kong just naturally resisted mind-control for no reason. Diddy Kong was able to shift a moon with his head. They have a level of toonforce, that's why Kratos has no chance against him. So you can say it's not serious, but neither is a gorilla punching mask out because the mask wanted to steal all the bananas of the land. Also explains why the island didn't bust from having a moon dumped on it, DKC R especially, has a sense of toon when concerning it's characters and even it's world. So Kratos aint doing much against a character with Toon strewngth and durability, cause the guy was also able to reenter the earth's atmosphere like it was nothing. Listen, you're using Ratchet, well he has Toony items, DK just has Tooney stats.

Sora never shown manipulation of power on a higher scale. He may have shown stronger magical attacks, but Link easily has a wider range with his magic, as well as more versatility. And Link has fought teleporters before. Link at base destroys monster infused stone like a joke, either with a sword or with an arrow. 100s and 100s of tons of force have hit him just judging by the size of his monsters on a daily base. Where as Sora fights city leveled reality warpers, Link fights a country reality warping dark magician with the power of the triforce in each incarnation. He even won a fight against someone using the full power of the triforce. as well as having the trident of power(PIS at it's fullest I aint gonna lie, but a feat nonetheless). Plus these guys are probably moralless considering people make their morals, what's to stop Link from going invincible, reversing time over and over again until he figures out Sora's movements and skill levels, then mercing him with perfect timing using light arrows, silver arrows, Magic that stops time as he uses it, and a blade that can cut through just about everything. You don't understand just how many games Link can call from, I can list dozens upon dozens of items, like 80-90, if not easily 100s. I haven't even played each Zelda game, and there's like 10 11 of them, each at least having a collection of 20 items, magic spells, and potions. And that's me considering the first ever Zelda game.

And that's kinda what helps Nintendo win this, for all their goofiness and maybe weakness at first glance compared to the PS characters, they have SOOOO much more experience. Yea Kratos fought a Titan, Link's been fighting giants for more years than I've been alive. Same with Samus, and even Pikachu. The only one without experience is DK, and he has goofy toonforce to make up for it.

Can you prove to me that she can bust countries? let alone take a country busting attack?

Toon force is never taken seriously in these kind of threads, by that logic we can assume that a regular human is a reality warper just because he starts a random lesson with a board just out of nowhere just to teach others about something despite it being comedic relief.(resisting mind control is highly common in fiction, thats just another one of his feats, allot of people had resistance to mind control even hulk of all people, plus even if that is considered toon force in your eyes its realistically more like Plot Induced Stupidity or PIS for short.) Toon Force is basically comedic relief on steroids, why do you think in nearly every thread certain feats are ignored due to the fact that they are either meant for comedy, or they were simply out of context or just out of the possible for certain characters based on their list of feats? DK can cause small level earthquakes, thats it. DK country returns is meant to be more cartoony, meaning that the feats such as realizing one is in the air after a few seconds then flying a little bit to try to get to safety does not apply in the battlefield and does not apply to canon. Unless you are telling me that small birds and crabs and and tiki mask made of wood have continent level durability(which you would need to prove in several different ways) The only thing you have to rely on for DK's existence in this fight is one toon force feat that is irrelevant and not canon to his actual feats..... Toon force durability? i seen no interesting durability feats for DK that surpasses Kratos let alone "toon force" durability. Kratos has fought gods. Has superior powers and weapons, and is too strong for dk in general based on feats let alone stats. Hell if kratos wanted to he can easily rip out Donkey kong's soul..... hell he can do that to anyone on the nintendo team. Toony weapons? Like what the silly weapons that were design the way they are? In the R&C universe their technology has been utilized to make virtually all kinds of weapons, i have yet to see a single toony weapon except possibly the one that turns its enemies into monkeys or the one that turns enemies into chickens but those were explained,( The Gadgetron Morph-O-Ray, also known as the Morph-o-ray or Morpharay, was Gadgetron's failed attempt to create a disintegration ray. Their failed result emanated a colorful ray that turned enemies into chickens. Larger enemies took longer to transform.While The Chimp-o-Matic was a weapon that turned enemies into chimpanzees and, according to its demonstration video, was originally designed as a party gag by bored GrummelNet engineers. Robotic enemies were turned into toy monkeys with cymbals, while organic enemies turned into normal chimps.) and didn't defy the logic of that said universe. Do you want me to review dk's feat of punching the moon onto a volcano after being launched by said volcano in only a few seconds without getting burned by lava which basically what erupts from a volcano?

And can you show me these teleporters he fought? Sora surpasses link heavily in every single physical stat, the biggest threat of this surpassing being combat speed, something link lacks in comparison, especially since he never fought someone with his level of combat speed, versatility means nothing if your arsenal is weaksauce in comparison to your opponents. Giants? or really? can you show me one video of link fighting giant legitamately, in the way roxas sora's other half and sora himself was?(if i recall link hits weakpoints only when fighting giant monsters such as killing a giant Octopus monster only by hitting him in the eye and slashing off some of his tentacles.)

You see this? he is casually smacking it around like its nothing. -.- show me link tanking hits like that.

0:35-0:41 show me link doing something similiar to this. (take note, sora's physical strength is highly likely to have decreased in lion form.)

And to add insult to injury

go back to that video that had all the boss fights and skip to 1:45:04-1:45:38 He is casually slashing through skyscrapers as if they are freaking butter. Honestly everything aside about sora beating link or link beating sora, but has link every shown even one physical feat even close to that? Has he even shown to fight people with that kind of physical strength, and trade blows with them? Link fights reality warpers? i recall that, do you have any proof they are on the level of KH reality warpers? Hell either way, sora has proven to be a better fighter, he has saved the multiverse on a regular basis, he fought people who im 100 percent sure would stomp link, link is a straight up badass, but his feats are too inferior for him to compete with sora. Link is at best low superhuman, and can probably classify as a 30-40 tonner range if not lower based on feats. One other thing, link gets the battle experience of all the other links in theory but that does not mean he gets all their feats, so that means the current link that was shown will have to be used in this battle(who by the way is nothing in comparison to most of his incarnations) even if you use all the feats of link he still won't compare to sora honestly......

Whats to stop sora to use high level gravity magic, then use time magic then all before he speeds blitzes the hell out of link until he feel he is satisfied or until the time runs out. light arrows are useless, hell most of link's weapons are impractical against sora. Plus can you show me link in character doing something such as going back in time constantly to see an opponent's skill?

"And that's kinda what helps Nintendo win this, for all their goofiness and maybe weakness at first glance compared to the PS characters, they have SOOOO much more experience. Yea Kratos fought a Titan, Link's been fighting giants for more years than I've been alive. Same with Samus, and even Pikachu. The only one without experience is DK, and he has goofy toonforce to make up for it."

Fought a titan? he fought gods..... there is actually a difference, he fought large hordes of enemies, and fought people mario, sonic and link would not stand a chance against. He fought these giants using conveniently placed objects, and weakpoints such as hitting them in the eye. Kratos beats giants legitamately.

Oh sure please show me link doing such feats please. Link is soooo much stronger.

Experiences are often proved worthless against foes far more powerful then they are.(so what if they had more experience, doesn't mean they had better experience) the only character from nintendo that had any good experience is link sonic and possibly DK since he fought against martial artist.(i'll give DK props in one more thing, combat speed. He shown great reaction time feats and good speed thats the main reason why he is such a threat. but saying he would one shot him or stomp him is kind of ridiculous.) Also you only debated with samus dk and link, what about the rest of the nintendo team? Sonic is the biggest threat, mario coming in second while samus in third(until you prove how powerful she is) these guys are the three biggest threats on the nintendo team. Pikachu is basically featless unless we are counting pokepark adventures which show some decent feats but not good enough. Nathan Drake, Solid snake and Sack boy could take him without too much trouble, drake would be shooting at him, at the same time throwing grenades while snake shoots seeking missles while sackboy uses conventional items such as bannana peels to get in the electric mouse's way. Kirby is a threat, but it has been shown that people with enough strength and grip to the ground or a good sense of gravity has shown to prevent themselves from being sucked in, when they are heavily weakened thats another story. In super star ultra kirby has access to all his powers, and in squeak squad he can combine certain powers and can also store powers he sucks in.(i'm saying this just in case the utilization of all his powers is considered not canon especially due to the fact that kirby doesn't usually have a list of his powers to easily access whenever he wants) Despite being potentially stronger than mario and sonic, his fighting styles are way different from them, and they are usually far more simple then mario and sonic's so it makes him a bit more predictable, cole is a walking arsenal of power and destruction and versatility.

i would get cole from his first game as well but i cannot find any videos that help out with that. Anyway good cole could use fully upgraded shock grenades which as soon as they explode the target will be restrained,(he could do this without the grenades regularly) if he wanted to, he could restrain his targets and then right after spam lightning strikes.