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#1 Posted by Akira Overdrive (10075 posts) - - Show Bio

Samurai.

#2 Posted by Zenma (4970 posts) - - Show Bio

if they're in war who'll win...

#3 Posted by Barry Flash (1573 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd say Ninja's, more stealthy and generally better. In my opinion.

#4 Posted by Zenma (4970 posts) - - Show Bio

Barry Flash says:

"I'd say Ninja's, more stealthy and generally better. In my opinion."

they are better equipped, but samurais are better skilled in swords, they have better, longer swords, and has armor, ninjas has little or no armor at all

#5 Posted by NEW VENOM (926 posts) - - Show Bio

samurais

#6 Posted by Zenma (4970 posts) - - Show Bio

NEW VENOM says:

"samurais"

i would give the battles to ninjas if it was at night

#7 Posted by Barry Flash (1573 posts) - - Show Bio

Zenma says:

"Barry Flash says:
"I'd say Ninja's, more stealthy and generally better. In my opinion."

they are better equipped, but samurais are better skilled in swords, they have better, longer swords, and has armor, ninjas has little or no armor at all"

Yeah i know, but i was thinking along the lines of a Scenario where they pick off the Samurais one by one in stealth.

#8 Posted by Zenma (4970 posts) - - Show Bio

Barry Flash says:

"Zenma says:
"Barry Flash says:
"I'd say Ninja's, more stealthy and generally better. In my opinion."

they are better equipped, but samurais are better skilled in swords, they have better, longer swords, and has armor, ninjas has little or no armor at all"

Yeah i know, but i was thinking along the lines of a Scenario where they pick off the Samurais one by one in stealth."

well maybe at night or a dense forest

#9 Posted by Akira Overdrive (10075 posts) - - Show Bio

Actually,I must say Ninja.

Most Ninja have been Samurai,they have an advantage there.

#10 Posted by Zenma (4970 posts) - - Show Bio

Akira Overdrive says:

"Actually,I must say Ninja.Most Ninja have been Samurai,they have an advantage there."

that is true, but the fact that they have to have no armor and have shorter swords gives them a slight disadvantage

#11 Posted by Akira Overdrive (10075 posts) - - Show Bio

Zenma says:

"Akira Overdrive says:
"Actually,I must say Ninja.Most Ninja have been Samurai,they have an advantage there."

that is true, but the fact that they have to have no armor and have shorter swords gives them a slight disadvantage"

Not really.They are much faster then a Samurai would be,unless the Samurai was ill equipped.

#12 Posted by Zenma (4970 posts) - - Show Bio

Akira Overdrive says:

"Zenma says:
"Akira Overdrive says:
"Actually,I must say Ninja.Most Ninja have been Samurai,they have an advantage there."

that is true, but the fact that they have to have no armor and have shorter swords gives them a slight disadvantage"

Not really.They are much faster then a Samurai would be,unless the Samurai was ill equipped."

in terms of armor and swords yes, but i do agree that ninjas has more arsenal of weapons

#13 Posted by Zenma (4970 posts) - - Show Bio

well if it's an all out war than ninjas can just simply do stealth attacks at night constantly

#14 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio

Realistically, and historically, the samurai were always the better swordsmen. Ninjas had to rely on stealth kills. In an all-out war, Ninjas would be decimated. They are not as experienced in swordplay is the samurai are.

#15 Posted by Zenma (4970 posts) - - Show Bio

Static Shock says:

"Realistically, and historically, the samurai were always the better swordsmen. Ninjas had to rely on stealth kills. In an all-out war, Ninjas would be decimated. They are not as experienced in swordplay is the samurai are."

yes that is very true

#16 Posted by Sasuke (397 posts) - - Show Bio

Static Shock says:

"Realistically, and historically, the samurai were always the better swordsmen. Ninjas had to rely on stealth kills. In an all-out war, Ninjas would be decimated. They are not as experienced in swordplay is the samurai are."

And the samurai would know that the ninja would try to attack at night and plan for it and with out the element of surprise ninjas lose this war.

#17 Posted by Zenma (4970 posts) - - Show Bio

Sasuke says:

"Static Shock says:
"Realistically, and historically, the samurai were always the better swordsmen. Ninjas had to rely on stealth kills. In an all-out war, Ninjas would be decimated. They are not as experienced in swordplay is the samurai are."

And the samurai would know that the ninja would try to attack at night and plan for it and with out the element of surprise ninjas lose this war."

i see that is true because that is what ninjas are all about...also mushashi is on the samurais

#18 Posted by DEADPOOL (2703 posts) - - Show Bio

Draw.

#19 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio

DEADPOOL says:

"Draw."

How so?

#20 Posted by Zenma (4970 posts) - - Show Bio

well ninjas are fast but has no armor and samurais have horses

#21 Posted by spawn_god_slayer (85 posts) - - Show Bio

umm.. I watched it on the History channel and a normal ninja

could take on 3 samurai at once.. and this is because there

martial art is to kill and paralyze.. and the samurai have too

heavy of swords. When they swung them on the Ninjas the ninjas

were to fast and had bear claws so the Samurai had stories of them

using magic to catch the blade with their hands. Oh and Ninjas are

still around and there are no more Samurai anymore...

NINJAS WIN!!!

#22 Posted by spawn_god_slayer (85 posts) - - Show Bio

yes but the Ninjas had weapons that cut off the legs of horses!

and the ninjas are too good for armor.. just History Channel doesn't lie

and it says Ninjas..

#23 Posted by The Iron Spider (580 posts) - - Show Bio

the horses have no armor making them vulnerable to all weapons

#24 Posted by Akira Overdrive (10075 posts) - - Show Bio

Static Shock says:

"Realistically, and historically, the samurai were always the better swordsmen. Ninjas had to rely on stealth kills. In an all-out war, Ninjas would be decimated. They are not as experienced in swordplay is the samurai are."

Ha!

Historically Ninja were exiled Samurai,they are equal if not better swordsmen.

#25 Posted by Zenma (4970 posts) - - Show Bio

The Iron Spider says:

"the horses have no armor making them vulnerable to all weapons"

true

#26 Posted by Akira Overdrive (10075 posts) - - Show Bio

Also,I do agree that in all out war Ninjas would lose,unless fought in chapters and sections.Giving the Ninja time to plan and attack.

#27 Posted by Zenma (4970 posts) - - Show Bio

Akira Overdrive says:

"Static Shock says:
"Realistically, and historically, the samurai were always the better swordsmen. Ninjas had to rely on stealth kills. In an all-out war, Ninjas would be decimated. They are not as experienced in swordplay is the samurai are."

Ha!

Historically Ninja were exiled Samurai,they are equal if not better swordsmen."

hmm good info

#28 Posted by kuchiku (4070 posts) - - Show Bio

ninjas are fast but samurais are stronger then ninjas soooo.... who knows?

#29 Posted by kuchiku (4070 posts) - - Show Bio

Akira Overdrive says:

"Static Shock says:
"Realistically, and historically, the samurai were always the better swordsmen. Ninjas had to rely on stealth kills. In an all-out war, Ninjas would be decimated. They are not as experienced in swordplay is the samurai are."
Ha! Historically Ninja were exiled Samurai,they are equal if not better swordsmen."

i thought shinobeis were exiled samurais?

#30 Posted by Akira Overdrive (10075 posts) - - Show Bio

kuchiku says:

"Akira Overdrive says:
"Static Shock says:
"Realistically, and historically, the samurai were always the better swordsmen. Ninjas had to rely on stealth kills. In an all-out war, Ninjas would be decimated. They are not as experienced in swordplay is the samurai are."
Ha! Historically Ninja were exiled Samurai,they are equal if not better swordsmen."

i thought shinobeis were exiled samurais?"

Shinobi is either a Ninja or Samurai..its another way of saying "warrior"

#31 Posted by Lantern Of Hatred (1584 posts) - - Show Bio

This is a joke?

Samurai.

#32 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

samurai

#33 Posted by Quintus_Knightfall (84632 posts) - - Show Bio

Ninjas

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#34 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm going to go with Samurai.

#35 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - - Show Bio

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#36 Posted by Alexander Anderson (4030 posts) - - Show Bio

Samurai.

#37 Posted by Akira Overdrive (10075 posts) - - Show Bio

Why do you say Samurai!?

#38 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - - Show Bio

Akira Overdrive says:

"Why do you say Samurai!?"
They are more of a "war" type fighters. Ninja are ment for quick stealth assassins, not winning a war.
#39 Posted by TRTrunks (56 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, the samurais may be skilled with the sword but ninjas are better equipped and can kill them from distance.

#40 Posted by Akira Overdrive (10075 posts) - - Show Bio

Nobody says:

"Akira Overdrive says:
"Why do you say Samurai!?"
They are more of a "war" type fighters. Ninja are ment for quick stealth assassins, not winning a war."

This is overall,not only a war.

#41 Posted by The Spartan (6320 posts) - - Show Bio

TRTrunks says:

"Well, the samurais may be skilled with the sword but ninjas are better equipped and can kill them from distance."

Ummmmm........ The Samurai were skilled with the long bow. It's range was much farther than any projectile a ninja could use.

Come on, didn't you guys see The Last Samurai, lol?

#42 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - - Show Bio

Akira Overdrive says:

"Nobody says:
"Akira Overdrive says:
"Why do you say Samurai!?"
They are more of a "war" type fighters. Ninja are ment for quick stealth assassins, not winning a war. "
This is overall,not only a war."

Zenma says:

"if they're in war who'll win..."
#43 Posted by Rotten gun (2509 posts) - - Show Bio

samurai win via mass of numbers

#44 Posted by The Iron Spider (580 posts) - - Show Bio

in a all out battle, samurais would win

#45 Posted by Cyrus (683 posts) - - Show Bio

Samurai easily it like putting nija gaiden against samurai jack. Samuria Jack will win

#46 Posted by Morphid (1166 posts) - - Show Bio

I know this is about Vader, but see the section on ninjas and samurais.

#47 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio

Akira Overdrive says:

"Historically Ninja were exiled Samurai,they are equal if not better swordsmen."

Some samurai were ninjas (like Hittori Hanzo), but not all of them. There were only some that were documented as being ninjas. Most ninjas were civilians from villages. But, because they were very secretive, there wasn't much evidence to show for them. In any case, ninjas have never stacked up to samurai in terms of swordplay. Ninjas were mainly used for espionage, sabotage, assassination, special operations, etc. They weren't battle-ready like the samurai were. Samurai had wartime experience. Trained as soldiers, and were used for regular combat.

In an all-out war, ninjas cannot use stealth, because it would be useless. Ninjas don't have enough wartime experience to survive against the samurai, because it isn't their main field. If ninjas could ambush a samurai camp with stealth kills, then yes, ninjas would be the better choice. But, that isn't how the battle is set up, according to the person who started the thread. Let's take the weapons for instance. A standard katana (samurai sword) is longer than a ninjato (ninja sword). And, because it is so much smaller than a katana, ninjas have to get closer to the opponent. Against a samurai, which is a better skilled swordsman, getting close would leave a ninja at a disadvantage. Also, the ninjato back in those days wasn't very sharp, and it wasn't as durable as a sword either. Though, I could be wrong, because history on ninja isn't very accurate. The sword wasn't even meant for dueling, but more for quick, stealth kills.

Akira Overdrive says:

Shinobi is either a Ninja or Samurai..its another way of saying "warrior"

Incorrect. Shinobi has nothing to do with the samurai. It means 'to steal away' or 'to forbear'. It has nothing to do with warrior, and is only used in terms of ninjas. What you said sounds completely made up. In pop culture, shinobi is used to identify a male ninja, with kunoichi used to identify a female ninja.
Post Edited:2008-03-03 06:41:33

#48 Posted by White Phantom (1760 posts) - - Show Bio

Samurai are very skilled with their swords, and extremely swift. I read that 1 samurai could take on 10 men with swords and spears. These guys are trained warriors, ninjas aren't. Ninjas are obviously more popular, but samurai win.

#49 Posted by Chaos boy (45 posts) - - Show Bio

A ninja will do whatever it takes to kill. They wont let tradetion and morales stop them from winning. I think this gives them the upper hand. Like someone mentioned, they are assasins, the have a large array of weapons not just there sword.

Unless its Tom Cruise we are talking about then the samuri will win for sure.

#50 Posted by Akira Overdrive (10075 posts) - - Show Bio

Static Shock says:

"Akira Overdrive says:
"Historically Ninja were exiled Samurai,they are equal if not better swordsmen."

Some samurai were ninjas (like Hittori Hanzo), but not all of them. There were only some that were documented as being ninjas. Most ninjas were civilians from villages. But, because they were very secretive, there wasn't much evidence to show for them. In any case, ninjas have never stacked up to samurai in terms of swordplay. Ninjas were mainly used for espionage, sabotage, assassination, special operations, etc. They weren't battle-ready like the samurai were. Samurai had wartime experience. Trained as soldiers, and were used for regular combat.

In an all-out war, ninjas cannot use stealth, because it would be useless. Ninjas don't have enough wartime experience to survive against the samurai, because it isn't their main field. If ninjas could ambush a samurai camp with stealth kills, then yes, ninjas would be the better choice. But, that isn't how the battle is set up, according to the person who started the thread. Let's take the weapons for instance. A standard katana (samurai sword) is longer than a ninjato (ninja sword). And, because it is so much smaller than a katana, ninjas have to get closer to the opponent. Against a samurai, which is a better skilled swordsman, getting close would leave a ninja at a disadvantage. Also, the ninjato back in those days wasn't very sharp, and it wasn't as durable as a sword either. Though, I could be wrong, because history on ninja isn't very accurate. The sword wasn't even meant for dueling, but more for quick, stealth kills.

Akira Overdrive says:

Shinobi is either a Ninja or Samurai..its another way of saying "warrior"

Incorrect. Shinobi has nothing to do with the samurai. It means 'to steal away' or 'to forbear'. It has nothing to do with warrior, and is only used in terms of ninjas. What you said sounds completely made up. In pop culture, shinobi is used to identify a male ninja, with kunoichi used to identify a female ninja.
Post Edited:2008-03-03 06:41:33"

No what i said was correct aswell.Your getting your info from wiki,thats fine.But when you read books and can speak Japanese you will know that Shinobi means warrior.