Nightwing & Winter Soldier vs Red Hood & Daredevil

Nightwing & Winter Soldier

vs

Red Hood & Daredevil

Setup:

• 616 Marvel character feats
• New World and New 52 DC character feats (This is Pre-Tyrion Jason Todd)
• Standard Gear
• In Character

Each team has 15 minutes to meet and plan for each other.

Fight takes place in a large warehouse, with plenty of cover, and it's a fully accessible location.

Who wins?

@comic_stooge@comicstooge@veshark@dondave@wolverine08

Sweet matchup. This kind of depends on how well Jason can hang with either Winter Soldier or Nightwing so Daredevil can take them. Jason can't beat either of them one one one, but Matthew can. I'm not too well informed on Jason, but hasn't Jason been defeated by Nightwing handily already? If so, I can't see him hanging long enough for Matt to finish Winter Soldier and provide back up.

@wolverine08: I don't know a whole lot of red hood yet, but Yes while he does lose to Nightwing he should always give him a very difficult fight. It's only the notoriously "bad" stories have Dick stomping Jason, like Battle for Cowl and Brothers in Blood. IIIRC, I could be wrong.

Also New 52 Jason even without Tyrion feats has some awesome feats and his training was top notch. Also in a flashback it looked like he had beaten Batman, but then Nighting surprised attacked him.

Hmmm, Team 1. Bucky and DD would be a long, drawn out fight and Dick vs Jason would end quicker, allowing Murdock to get double teamed.

We don't really know how it happened though, so that feat isn't really credible. For all we know he could've surprise attacked Bats.

I'm siding with team 2 honestly after giving it some thought. Jason and Dick would take longer to finish than Matt vs Bucky would, which Matt would win. Then Matt helps the greatly injured Jason beat the snot out of Dick.

If Matt were to fight Dick and Jason were to fight Bucky, then again, Matt would finish winning over Dick before Bucky over Jason.

Daredevil being MVP is really key here.

That's why I said "looked", its questionable, but so is MMH stalemating the league and most take that as a feat. Even if Jason did surprise Batman, it would be impressive.

To be fair we all know people like to pick and choose what is PIS and what isn't.

I think team 1 can take this I see Jason going down first and Matt being on the receiving end of a 2v1. He'll put up a helluva fight, but I don't see him overcoming it.

Team 1 FTW

I've also heard about nightwing beating jason several times. If bucky can hold his own against matt till nightwing backs him up I get it to team 1. Could potentially go the other way though if bucky fights jason and nightwing DD.

Team 2

Team 2. Matt carries.

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Nightwing can possibly take daredevil but he would lose a majority. That said, he beats Jason majority. As for Bucky, he can take daredevil as well IMO in a really good fight and he can take red hood like Nightwing can. Jason is a weak link here seeing as how he can't beat anyone on team one. Team one wins.

Nightwing and Winter Soldier.

Either can beat Red Hood, and Winter Soldier can beat DD due to his gear. If you don't believe that, for sure he can hold DD off long enough for Nightwing to take down the red hood.

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Interesting fight. I am going to go with Team 2 here. I think Nightwing and Jason are just about equal and DD should be able to take Winter Solider.

Oh, totally forgot about this. This was back before I even read Jason stuff, I was under the assumption that Tynion made Jason a wizard or something. Jason can have all feats.