I'm not trying to force my opinion on you. It just makes more sense since Slade has handed him his ass several times in the past, that there would be circumstances in a fight where Dick can go toe to toe with him. "If that's how you feel, then I'm not going to tell you differently.
Nightwing vs Green Arrow
" @FinalStar86 said:How do you feel about it then? [I'm always interested in what you have to say]I'm not trying to force my opinion on you. It just makes more sense since Slade has handed him his ass several times in the past, that there would be circumstances in a fight where Dick can go toe to toe with him. "If that's how you feel, then I'm not going to tell you differently. "
" Since someone keeps making a big deal about GA taking out a small army... Yeah, he's not the only one.Nice scans, lets not forget that Dick also got floor by him in the previous panel, and that same speedster was able to fight Metamorpho, Owen Mercer and Katana at the same time
Things to notice: 1) There were roughly forty men. 2) They all have guns. 3) Nightwing is surrounded. 4) He is somewhat disoriented to begin with after being thrown into the soldiers by a speedster. 5) He defeats them in a few minutes. 6) He fights them all at once (no guerilla warfare). Just saying. "
" @Static Shock said:"I'm not trying to force my opinion on you. It just makes more sense since Slade has handed him his ass several times in the past, that there would be circumstances in a fight where Dick can go toe to toe with him. "
@FinalStar86 said:" Only fighting back enough to get Grayson off of him, if he wanted to kill Grayson he would of done so, instead of throwing bombs at the guards that walked into the room, he would of thrown them at Dick. "...If you say so. "
I've never actually seen DS defeat Dick.
I've seen Dick slam DS into a mirror, then DS kicked Dick when his back was to him in Renegade.
I remeber DS taking down all of the Teen Titans, except (the one without powers) Dick, who tricked DS into letting him escape.
I remember Dick fighting DS at the end of Renegade and holding his own, though stil not quite at DS's level by his own statement.
And i recall an instance where Dick owned DS completely when DS was depowered.
I've seen DS try to sneak up on Dick, who noticed him then whaled on DS (who didn't fight back for whatever reason).
And there's this instance posted in this thread, where Dick is yet again holding his own, but still slightly below DS's level.
When has DS beat down Grayson?
" A couple times in New Titans. Three or four times in Nightwing. "He also owned Dick, Tim Ravager and Jericho in Titans East
"@Zoom said:"A couple times in New Titans. Three or four times in Nightwing. "Most likely there were some in New Titans, but are you refferring to Nightwing's solo sereis? "
Yeah. I seem to remember him trying to kill one of Nightwing's friends, beating up Nightwing like four times to get to this girl before Nightwing finally pays him to go away.
"@velle37 said:"@Zoom said:Yeah. I seem to remember him trying to kill one of Nightwing's friends, beating up Nightwing like four times to get to this girl before Nightwing finally pays him to go away. ""A couple times in New Titans. Three or four times in Nightwing. "Most likely there were some in New Titans, but are you refferring to Nightwing's solo sereis? "
Lol, that was hilarious. I didn't see the rest of that story, just the part where Nightwing tells the girl to run, scuffles with Slade, and pays him to go away.......
@FinalStar86 said:
" @Zoom said:" A couple times in New Titans. Three or four times in Nightwing. "He also owned Dick, Tim Ravager and Jericho in Titans East "
I remember that fight. But i don't remeber it as a beat down, just a superior showing for DS. Maybe i'm rememebring wrong...... *shrugs*
" @Zoom said:I consider it a beatdown, The first time Slade landed a hit on Dick, he ended up busting the back of his head open. Dick Jericho Tim and Ravager couldn't land a single hit while he was effortlessly tooling them"@velle37 said:"@Zoom said:Yeah. I seem to remember him trying to kill one of Nightwing's friends, beating up Nightwing like four times to get to this girl before Nightwing finally pays him to go away. ""A couple times in New Titans. Three or four times in Nightwing. "Most likely there were some in New Titans, but are you refferring to Nightwing's solo sereis? "
Lol, that was hilarious. I didn't see the rest of that story, just the part where Nightwing tells the girl to run, scuffles with Slade, and pays him to go away.......
@FinalStar86 said:" @Zoom said:I remember that fight. But i don't remeber it as a beat down, just a superior showing for DS. Maybe i'm rememebring wrong...... *shrugs* "" A couple times in New Titans. Three or four times in Nightwing. "He also owned Dick, Tim Ravager and Jericho in Titans East "
" @velle37 said:" @Zoom said:I consider it a beatdown, The first time Slade landed a hit on Dick, he ended up busting the back of his head open. Dick Jericho Tim and Ravager couldn't land a single hit while he was effortlessly tooling them ""@velle37 said:"@Zoom said:Yeah. I seem to remember him trying to kill one of Nightwing's friends, beating up Nightwing like four times to get to this girl before Nightwing finally pays him to go away. ""A couple times in New Titans. Three or four times in Nightwing. "Most likely there were some in New Titans, but are you refferring to Nightwing's solo sereis? "
Lol, that was hilarious. I didn't see the rest of that story, just the part where Nightwing tells the girl to run, scuffles with Slade, and pays him to go away.......
@FinalStar86 said:" @Zoom said:I remember that fight. But i don't remeber it as a beat down, just a superior showing for DS. Maybe i'm rememebring wrong...... *shrugs* "" A couple times in New Titans. Three or four times in Nightwing. "He also owned Dick, Tim Ravager and Jericho in Titans East "
It may have been a beatdown. Like i said, i may be remembering wrong. Do you have scans?
"It's in issue 46. There's not really a lot to it but Deathstroke basically holds off half the Teen Titans on his own and every time Grayson comes at him, Slade hits him (sometimes with another Titan) before Dick can get his attack off. "
Yea i rememeber the actual fight. I just don't remember it as DS beating Grayson down. I remember it as DS fighting multiple Titans and keeping them back, toying with them.
" There's another scan from that fight of Nightwing jumping over Deathstroke to avoid a sword attack but Deathstroke just kicks behind him and nails Nightwing in the back of the head. It doesn't put him down or anything, though. "It busted him open though
"There's another scan from that fight of Nightwing jumping over Deathstroke to avoid a sword attack but Deathstroke just kicks behind him and nails Nightwing in the back of the head. It doesn't put him down or anything, though. "
I remember that too.
Like i said, Stroke is a beast.
I'll actually go with Green Arrow in a good fight, his showings against Deathstroke & Red Hood were impressive.
He had a ton of prep against Slade, and Slade lost intentionally, to begin with. His showing against Jason was impressive, but Dick has beaten him several times, too.I'll actually go with Green Arrow in a good fight, his showings against Deathstroke & Red Hood were impressive.
I'm going with Nightwing.
Nightwing will have to get in close and cause his bow to be useless, if it is a ranged fight then GA has it. If Nightwing brings it in to a close fight which is what most likely would happen, it would go to Nightwing. I believe Nightwing is more skilled in H2H combat, and GA has it in ranged by quite a big margin. It is still an amazing battle i would love to witness. For Green Arrow to win, he will have to keep Nightwing from getting close and play the hit and run game, which is possible but Nightwing is a force to be reconed with. I give Nightwing a 65% chance of winning, and Green Arrow a 35% chance.
@darktiger said:
I'm going with green arrow
Agreed. Ollie has more of a shot(no pun intended) here imo.
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