Nightwing vs Green Arrow

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#151  Edited By Static Shock
@FinalStar86 said:
I'm not trying to force my opinion on you.  It just makes more sense since Slade has handed him his ass several times in the past, that there would be circumstances in a fight where Dick can go toe to toe with him. "
If that's how you feel, then I'm not going to tell you differently.
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#152  Edited By FinalStar86
@Static Shock said:
" @FinalStar86 said:
I'm not trying to force my opinion on you.  It just makes more sense since Slade has handed him his ass several times in the past, that there would be circumstances in a fight where Dick can go toe to toe with him. "
If that's how you feel, then I'm not going to tell you differently. "
How do you feel about it then? [I'm always interested in what you have to say]
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#153  Edited By Static Shock
@FinalStar86: It doesn't matter, really.
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#154  Edited By FinalStar86
@Ferro Vida said:
" Since someone keeps making a big deal about GA taking out a small army... Yeah, he's not the only one.

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Things to notice:  1) There were roughly forty men. 2) They all have guns.  3) Nightwing is surrounded. 4) He is somewhat disoriented to begin with after being thrown into the soldiers by a speedster. 5) He defeats them in a few minutes. 6) He fights them all at once (no guerilla warfare).  Just saying. "
Nice scans, lets not forget that Dick also got floor by him in the previous panel, and that same speedster was able to fight Metamorpho, Owen Mercer and Katana at the same time
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#155  Edited By FinalStar86
@Static Shock said:
" @FinalStar86: It doesn't matter, really. "
Nothing on this site ever matters
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#156  Edited By Ferro Vida
@FinalStar86: Thank you for pointing that out. I'm curious as to how the GA supporter will respond.
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#157  Edited By velle37
@FinalStar86 said:
" @Static Shock said:
"
 
@FinalStar86 said:
" Only fighting back enough to get Grayson off of him, if he wanted to kill Grayson he would of done so, instead of throwing bombs at the guards that walked into the room, he would of thrown them at Dick. "
...If you say so. "
I'm not trying to force my opinion on you.  It just makes more sense since Slade has handed him his ass several times in the past, that there would be circumstances in a fight where Dick can go toe to toe with him. "

I've never actually seen DS defeat Dick. 
 
I've seen Dick slam DS into a mirror, then DS kicked Dick when his back was to him in Renegade. 
 
I remeber DS taking down all of the Teen Titans, except (the one without powers) Dick, who tricked DS into letting him escape. 
 
I remember Dick fighting DS at the end of Renegade and holding his own, though stil not quite at DS's level by his own statement. 
 
And i recall an instance where Dick owned DS completely when DS was depowered. 
 
I've seen DS try to sneak up on Dick, who noticed him then whaled on DS (who didn't fight back for whatever reason). 
 
And there's this instance posted in this thread, where Dick is yet again holding his own, but still slightly below DS's level. 
 
When has DS beat down Grayson?
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#158  Edited By Zoom

A couple times in New Titans.  Three or four times in Nightwing.
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#159  Edited By Theodore

Who cares it's not DS vs Nightwing...

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#160  Edited By velle37
@Zoom said:
"A couple times in New Titans.  Three or four times in Nightwing. "

Most likely there were some in New Titans, but are you refferring to Nightwing's solo sereis?
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#161  Edited By FinalStar86
@Zoom said:
" A couple times in New Titans.  Three or four times in Nightwing. "
He also owned Dick, Tim Ravager and Jericho in Titans East
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#162  Edited By Zoom
@velle37 said:
"@Zoom said:
"A couple times in New Titans.  Three or four times in Nightwing. "
Most likely there were some in New Titans, but are you refferring to Nightwing's solo sereis? "

Yeah.  I seem to remember him trying to kill one of Nightwing's friends, beating up Nightwing like four times to get to this girl before Nightwing finally pays him to go away.
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#163  Edited By velle37
@Zoom said:
"@velle37 said:
"@Zoom said:
"A couple times in New Titans.  Three or four times in Nightwing. "
Most likely there were some in New Titans, but are you refferring to Nightwing's solo sereis? "
Yeah.  I seem to remember him trying to kill one of Nightwing's friends, beating up Nightwing like four times to get to this girl before Nightwing finally pays him to go away. "

  Lol, that was hilarious. I didn't see the rest of that story, just the part where Nightwing tells the girl to run, scuffles with Slade, and pays him to go away.......
 
@FinalStar86 said:
" @Zoom said:
" A couple times in New Titans.  Three or four times in Nightwing. "
He also owned Dick, Tim Ravager and Jericho in Titans East "

I remember that fight. But i don't remeber it as a beat down, just a superior showing for DS. Maybe i'm rememebring wrong...... *shrugs*
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#164  Edited By FinalStar86
@velle37 said:
" @Zoom said:
"@velle37 said:
"@Zoom said:
"A couple times in New Titans.  Three or four times in Nightwing. "
Most likely there were some in New Titans, but are you refferring to Nightwing's solo sereis? "
Yeah.  I seem to remember him trying to kill one of Nightwing's friends, beating up Nightwing like four times to get to this girl before Nightwing finally pays him to go away. "

  Lol, that was hilarious. I didn't see the rest of that story, just the part where Nightwing tells the girl to run, scuffles with Slade, and pays him to go away.......
 
@FinalStar86 said:
" @Zoom said:
" A couple times in New Titans.  Three or four times in Nightwing. "
He also owned Dick, Tim Ravager and Jericho in Titans East "
I remember that fight. But i don't remeber it as a beat down, just a superior showing for DS. Maybe i'm rememebring wrong...... *shrugs* "
I consider it a beatdown, The first time Slade landed a hit on Dick, he ended up busting the back of his head open.  Dick Jericho Tim and Ravager couldn't land a single hit while he was effortlessly tooling them
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#165  Edited By velle37
@FinalStar86 said:
" @velle37 said:
" @Zoom said:
"@velle37 said:
"@Zoom said:
"A couple times in New Titans.  Three or four times in Nightwing. "
Most likely there were some in New Titans, but are you refferring to Nightwing's solo sereis? "
Yeah.  I seem to remember him trying to kill one of Nightwing's friends, beating up Nightwing like four times to get to this girl before Nightwing finally pays him to go away. "

  Lol, that was hilarious. I didn't see the rest of that story, just the part where Nightwing tells the girl to run, scuffles with Slade, and pays him to go away.......
 
@FinalStar86 said:
" @Zoom said:
" A couple times in New Titans.  Three or four times in Nightwing. "
He also owned Dick, Tim Ravager and Jericho in Titans East "
I remember that fight. But i don't remeber it as a beat down, just a superior showing for DS. Maybe i'm rememebring wrong...... *shrugs* "
I consider it a beatdown, The first time Slade landed a hit on Dick, he ended up busting the back of his head open.  Dick Jericho Tim and Ravager couldn't land a single hit while he was effortlessly tooling them "

It may have been a beatdown. Like i said, i may be remembering wrong. Do you have scans?
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#166  Edited By Zoom

It's in issue 46.  There's not really a lot to it but Deathstroke basically holds off half the Teen Titans on his own and every time Grayson comes at him, Slade hits him (sometimes with another Titan) before Dick can get his attack off.
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#167  Edited By velle37
@Zoom said:
"It's in issue 46.  There's not really a lot to it but Deathstroke basically holds off half the Teen Titans on his own and every time Grayson comes at him, Slade hits him (sometimes with another Titan) before Dick can get his attack off. "

Yea i rememeber the actual fight. I just don't remember it as DS beating Grayson down. I remember it as DS fighting multiple Titans and keeping them back, toying with them.
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#168  Edited By EpitomeofCool
@Sasuke said:
" I'd give it to nightwing "

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#169  Edited By FinalStar86
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#170  Edited By velle37
@FinalStar86  
 
Stroke is a beast..........
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#171  Edited By Zoom

There's another scan from that fight of Nightwing jumping over Deathstroke to avoid a sword attack but Deathstroke just kicks behind him and nails Nightwing in the back of the head.  It doesn't put him down or anything, though.
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#172  Edited By FinalStar86
@Zoom said:
" There's another scan from that fight of Nightwing jumping over Deathstroke to avoid a sword attack but Deathstroke just kicks behind him and nails Nightwing in the back of the head.  It doesn't put him down or anything, though. "
It busted him open though
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#173  Edited By ryanthereaper

Green Arrow ftw.

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#174  Edited By Ferro Vida
@ryanthereaper said:
"Green Arrow ftw. "

No.
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#175  Edited By velle37
@Zoom said:
"There's another scan from that fight of Nightwing jumping over Deathstroke to avoid a sword attack but Deathstroke just kicks behind him and nails Nightwing in the back of the head.  It doesn't put him down or anything, though. "

I remember that too. 
 
Like i said, Stroke is a beast.
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#176  Edited By zmann95

Snap!! Deathstrokes a beast.but to get to the debate.Green arrow would  lose.Dick is just way superior although it wouldn't be a slaughter
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#177  Edited By ReverseNegative

Nightwing.
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#178  Edited By ninjabot
@ryanthereaper said:
" Green Arrow ftw. "
I like Green Arrow but I think Master Dick is going to take it more often than not.
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#179  Edited By Stronger

@Vance Astro said:

Dick Grayson.
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#181  Edited By progenitorigin

I'll actually go with Green Arrow in a good fight, his showings against Deathstroke & Red Hood were impressive.

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#182  Edited By Erik

Nightwing.

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#183  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@progenitor said:

I'll actually go with Green Arrow in a good fight, his showings against Deathstroke & Red Hood were impressive.

He had a ton of prep against Slade, and Slade lost intentionally, to begin with. His showing against Jason was impressive, but Dick has beaten him several times, too.
 
 
I'm going with Nightwing.
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#184  Edited By Erik

@Morpheus_:

What a surprise...... The man with a Nightwing avatar chooses Nightwing.

<-----Biggest eye roll ever.

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#185  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Erik: Would it help if I said I really like both, but Dick's current title simply has far better art?
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#186  Edited By Erik
@Morpheus_ said:
@Erik: Would it help if I said I really like both, but Dick's current title simply has far better art?
Yes. That helps plenty. Although it does make me question your judgement. Green Arrow a likable title?  
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#187  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Erik: I meant I like both characters. :P
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#188  Edited By Erik
@Morpheus_ said:
@Erik: I meant I like both characters. :P
Lol oh. 
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#189  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

@Erik: Hey, Mr. I like shows but don't watch them, don't forget there's a new Big Bang Theory tonight.

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#190  Edited By Phaedrusgr

Nightwing, since he's more popular.

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#191  Edited By Erik
@k4tzm4n said:

@Erik: Hey, Mr. I like shows but don't watch them, don't forget there's a new Big Bang Theory tonight.

I will be all over that. TWD..... was..... amazing!!!!
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#192  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

Very.

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Nightwing.

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#194  Edited By Cable_Extreme

 Nightwing will have to get in close and cause his bow to be useless, if it is a ranged fight then GA has it. If Nightwing brings it in to a close fight which is what most likely would happen, it would go to Nightwing. I believe Nightwing is more skilled in H2H combat, and GA has it in ranged by quite a big margin. It is still an amazing battle i would love to witness. For Green Arrow to win, he will have to keep Nightwing from getting close and play the hit and run game, which is possible but Nightwing is a force to be reconed with. I give Nightwing a 65% chance of winning, and Green Arrow a 35% chance.
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#195  Edited By darktiger

I'm going with green arrow

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#196  Edited By Strider1992

@darktiger said:

I'm going with green arrow

Agreed. Ollie has more of a shot(no pun intended) here imo.

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#197  Edited By darktiger

@Strider92: yeah about that,I'm going to change my answer to nightwing

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Nightwing takes with with a little effort.

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Nightwing should take the win

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Nightwing.