#1 Posted by Alpha (7331 posts) - - Show Bio



#2 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio

Nightwing.

#3 Posted by Vance Astro (91238 posts) - - Show Bio

Dick Grayson.

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#4 Posted by Sasuke (397 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd give it to nightwing

#5 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio

i think nightwing could lose if green arrow had his trick arrows

#6 Posted by Emerald_General_Jai (2306 posts) - - Show Bio

Dick Grayson.

#7 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

Nightwing

#8 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio
geraldthesloth said:
"i think nightwing could lose if green arrow had his trick arrows"
I don't think trick arrows are gonna make up he difference.

That being said, I don't see any reason why this version of Green Arrow wouldn't have them.
#9 Posted by StrongestOneThereIs (6490 posts) - - Show Bio

I think GA can take him. I thin he is a better fighter than NW.

#10 Posted by ecsnclr (4147 posts) - - Show Bio

I have a question
How does Green Arrows mask stay on his face it's just on his eyes there is not strap ? ? ? ? ?

#11 Posted by Hawk (15833 posts) - - Show Bio

Arrow pulls out his Bat repealing arrow and whoops him. lol

#12 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio
StrongestOneThereIs said:
"I think GA can take him. I thin he is a better fighter than NW."
and I think you are wrong
#13 Posted by ecsnclr (4147 posts) - - Show Bio
StrongestOneThereIs said:
"I think GA can take him. I think he is a better fighter than NW."

Then you are wrong very very very wrong
FACT
#14 Edited by StrongestOneThereIs (6490 posts) - - Show Bio
ecsnclr said:
"StrongestOneThereIs said:
"I think GA can take him. I think he is a better fighter than NW."

Then you are wrong very very very wrong
FACT"
No. Tell me really how u feel.

Why u think I'm wrong?
#15 Posted by Secret Turchin Man (1852 posts) - - Show Bio
StrongestOneThereIs said:
"ecsnclr said:
"StrongestOneThereIs said:
"I think GA can take him. I think he is a better fighter than NW."

Then you are wrong very very very wrong
FACT"
No. Tell me really how u feel.

Why u think I'm wrong?"

Because Dick Grayson has held his own against some of the best and Oliver Queen hasn't.
#16 Posted by StrongestOneThereIs (6490 posts) - - Show Bio
Secret Turchin Man said:
"StrongestOneThereIs said:
"ecsnclr said:
"StrongestOneThereIs said:
"I think GA can take him. I think he is a better fighter than NW."

Then you are wrong very very very wrong
FACT"
No. Tell me really how u feel.

Why u think I'm wrong?"

Because Dick Grayson has held his own against some of the best and Oliver Queen hasn't."
Oliver has as well. League of Assassin  and Batgirl.
#17 Posted by claws (5060 posts) - - Show Bio

nightwing wins this fight

#18 Posted by Alpha (7331 posts) - - Show Bio

Green Arrow has more experience. All I see Nightwing having over him is being more agile. GA is tougher.

#19 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio

Green Arrow has "more experience" than Nightwing but he only started training in martial arts a year ago so the rest of that experience isn't gonna matter too much.  Not like Nightwing can't dodge an arrow.  And if you go by the Green Arrow in that picture, he's got zero martial arts experience.  He's gonna get his butt handed to him.

#20 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio
Alpha said:
"Green Arrow has more experience. All I see Nightwing having over him is being more agile. GA is tougher."
actually though Oliver is older Dick started as Robin before Oliver became Green Arrow or atleast was introduced
#21 Posted by John Valentine (16310 posts) - - Show Bio

Nightwing.

#22 Posted by cagane (132 posts) - - Show Bio

I wonder how can Dick take down Ollie? Ollie is equal to Bruce. After One Year Later he reached Bruce level h2h combat.

#23 Posted by Dirty Mouth (87 posts) - - Show Bio

very good battle, mmm may be GA can take this.

#24 Posted by velle37 (6059 posts) - - Show Bio
@cagane said:
"I wonder how can Dick take down Ollie? Ollie is equal to Bruce. After One Year Later he reached Bruce level h2h combat. "

No he didn't. He only trained for a year. And Black Canary took him down effortlessly in h2h. 
 
Ollie probably isn't even as good as Tim in h2h. And Grasyon dodges bullets, arrows aren't gonna be a problem for him. His agility, speed, skill and intelligence outclass GA. Ollie's strength is the only attribute he possibly outclasses Dick in. And even if Ollie was stonrger this would be negated by Dick's skill.
#25 Posted by Silver2467 (16527 posts) - - Show Bio

Dick should win. 

#26 Posted by batman_is_god (1185 posts) - - Show Bio

Dick's a better fighter, but GA is craftier. I vote GA.
#27 Posted by batmanary (798 posts) - - Show Bio

Dick has the experience... plus he probably heard Batman's plans to beat him up after finding out he got an Arrow Cave. LMAO

#28 Posted by DocJude (396 posts) - - Show Bio
@velle37 said:
" @cagane said:
"I wonder how can Dick take down Ollie? Ollie is equal to Bruce. After One Year Later he reached Bruce level h2h combat. "
No he didn't. He only trained for a year. And Black Canary took him down effortlessly in h2h.  Ollie probably isn't even as good as Tim in h2h. And Grasyon dodges bullets, arrows aren't gonna be a problem for him. His agility, speed, skill and intelligence outclass GA. Ollie's strength is the only attribute he possibly outclasses Dick in. And even if Ollie was stonrger this would be negated by Dick's skill. "
I'm pretty sure Ollie has some pretty decent level of H2H skill before the "island". He just got better.
#29 Posted by Sherlock (7258 posts) - - Show Bio

Dick should take this without much trouble

#30 Posted by batmanary (798 posts) - - Show Bio
@DocJude: He got better, but he's not at THAT level of H2H.
#31 Posted by saiyan_earthling (5445 posts) - - Show Bio

Dicky

#32 Posted by cagane (132 posts) - - Show Bio
@batmanary said:
" @DocJude: He got better, but he's not at THAT level of H2H. "

 
What do you say about this?
#33 Posted by Lvenger (20039 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmmm good fight. If GA kept Dick at range then I'd say Ollie but at H2H despite their similar levels of martial arts experience I'd personally have to give it to Dick. Even though Ollie was trained by Natas the same guy who trained Deathstroke, Dick's mixture of styles combined with his eskrima sticks would give him the edge in close combat IMO.

#34 Posted by CaptainRodgers (1656 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nighthunter said:
"StrongestOneThereIs said:
"I think GA can take him. I thin he is a better fighter than NW."
and I think you are wrong "

@Nighthunter: And I think your right :P
#35 Posted by CaptainRodgers (1656 posts) - - Show Bio
@cagane:
nice scan , arrow gets out fought
#36 Posted by DocJude (396 posts) - - Show Bio
@Lvenger said:
" Hmmm good fight. If GA kept Dick at range then I'd say Ollie but at H2H despite their similar levels of martial arts experience I'd personally have to give it to Dick. Even though Ollie was trained by Natas the same guy who trained Deathstroke, Dick's mixture of styles combined with his eskrima sticks would give him the edge in close combat IMO. "
Ollie has just as eclectic a mix of styles. & "eskrima sticks" don't give an edge in close combat over a good blade. 















































#37 Posted by sa5m (2112 posts) - - Show Bio
@DocJude: wow nice scans I think the green arrow can win
#38 Posted by DocJude (396 posts) - - Show Bio
@sa5m said:
" @DocJude: wow nice scans I think the green arrow can win "
Yeah, but it shouldn't take a mountain of scans to try to prove a point, you know what I mean ; )
#39 Posted by k4tzm4n (44462 posts) - - Show Bio

What does his katana fight with Todd have to do with hand-to-hand abilities? It was also revealed that Todd was just aiming to keep him occupied so his men could capture Mia (and Brick was keeping Wayne busy).
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#40 Edited by DocJude (396 posts) - - Show Bio
@k4tzm4n said:

" What does his katana fight with Todd have to do with hand-to-hand abilities? It was also revealed that Todd was just aiming to keep him occupied so his men could capture Mia (and Brick was keeping Wayne busy). "

I was replying to a "Dick & eskrima sticks" post. Try reading.
(& who said anything about H2H? the OP didn't mention it)
& you think Todd was just "keeping him occupied"? The trick sword handle was his ace in the hole if he got disarmed & Ollie got the best of him. And he did so the trick worked.
#41 Edited by k4tzm4n (44462 posts) - - Show Bio
   @DocJude:  
"Try reading"?  Where's that hostility coming from and is it really even required? Take a chill pill. 
My point was the debate I saw was about Ollie's hand to hand capabilities, and then I saw the scans you posted.  I simply remarked on the one katana fight.  And did you read the issue I'm speaking of? Brick himself stated the objective was never to beat them (Ollie/Batman), but only keep them occupied.  Then there's the fact that Todd attempting to kill Ollie would be completely OoC.  I have no doubt that Ollie is a more skilled swordsman than Todd, but the fact remains that neither had the intention of killing the other, and the entire fight was just set up to keep Ollie busy.  There's no disputing that.  Then again, you were the one who attempted to argue the clear and established limitations and power levels of Moon Knight...
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#42 Posted by EpitomeofCool (2779 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nighthunter said:
" Nightwing "

#43 Edited by DocJude (396 posts) - - Show Bio
@k4tzm4n said: 

" @DocJude:  "Try reading"?  Where's that hostility coming from and is it really even required? Take a chill pill. My point was the debate I saw was about Ollie's hand to hand capabilities, and then I saw the scans you posted.  I simply remarked on the one katana fight.

  While NOT READING MY POST, OR THE POST I WAS REPLYING TO. 
& "hostility"? ^_^ You think me expecting someone to actually read my posts before replying to them is "hostility"? Man, you need to get the hell out of the comic book forums & thicken your skin a bit.

And did you read the issue I'm speaking of? Brick himself stated the objective was never to beat them (Ollie/Batman), but only keep them occupied.  Then there's the fact that Todd attempting to kill Ollie would be completely OoC.

It was the same issue I got my scans from, & Jason Todd mentioned it too. #71
Keeping someone occupied is letting them keep up with you in a fight, keeping them just close enough that they actually think its a fight, & then spank 'em real quick, laugh & run off into the night. Not getting your ass kicked and relying on some back-up sword grip booby trap to be able to ESCAPE. Your details don't matter. Jason had a contingency in case he got beat.

I have no doubt that Ollie is a more skilled swordsman than Todd, but the fact remains that neither had the intention of killing the other, and the entire fight was just set up to keep Ollie busy.  There's no disputing that.  Then again, you were the one who attempted to argue the clear and established limitations and power levels of Moon Knight... "

"argue the clear & established limitations and power levels of Moon Knight"? Where did I try to do that? They go up and down all over the place, depending on his state of mind and how much Khonshu is dabbling in his life. That's common knowledge, but trying to figure out where his powers are at at any given time, now that's hard.
#44 Posted by k4tzm4n (44462 posts) - - Show Bio

I've spent more time on you than you deserve.  So, I'll summarize with: 
 
"Cool story, bro."
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#45 Posted by spidey 15 (17756 posts) - - Show Bio
@k4tzm4n said:
" I've spent more time on you than you deserve.  So, I'll summarize with:  "Cool story, bro." "
ROFL!
#46 Posted by Ferro Vida (34678 posts) - - Show Bio
@k4tzm4n said:
" I've spent more time on you than you deserve.  So, I'll summarize with:  "Cool story, bro." "
LMAO
#47 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio
@k4tzm4n said:
"I've spent more time on you than you deserve.  So, I'll summarize with:  "Cool story, bro." "

Pretty much.  Roid rager needs to take a nap.
#48 Posted by Mercy_ (92708 posts) - - Show Bio
@k4tzm4n said:
" I've spent more time on you than you deserve.  So, I'll summarize with:  "Cool story, bro." "
You get 10,000 points for that. 
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#49 Posted by Lvenger (20039 posts) - - Show Bio
@DocJude:  Nice scans. They really highlight GA's martial arts abilities. I remember that stroy arc now from which the scans are posted. Nevertheless, Dick's had more practice at martial arts than Ollie. I base that on the fact he was learning before Ollie started so he's conscious of his abilities and how to use them in multiple strategies to take down Ollie. I know GA has that as well as your scans prove but Dick's had longer to practice so I still think Dick wins.
#50 Posted by batmanary (798 posts) - - Show Bio

Ollie is good, but he only trained for one year, whereas the whole Batman family have been training for years.